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Bast Relief
Feb 21, 2006

by exmarx
Well, this makes me a little less confident that 3%ers and the like will stay put comfortably in their chairs the day Hillary is declared president.

God drat, I wasn't even following the story anymore because it seemed so much like a slam dunk that I got bored with it.

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xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

LGD posted:

it's good to know that the change we need to make to ensure a better and less racist society is for the police to engage in more extra-judicial killings

Non-serious phrasing aside, that's why we should have a legal system and the rule of law, so it's not a matter of lethal force (unlikely enough I feel I can joke about it in the case of white people) or literally letting these idiots do what they want till they decide to blow away more cops. That'd be nice. Hopefully this one isn't paid for in blood like the last one.

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

Ron Paul Atreides posted:

what happened exactly I've been too distracted with the trumpocalypse to pay attention

one of the jurors (#11) got removed after about a workweek of deliberations after the jury asked the judge whether his partiality was in question when he said "as a former BLM employee (which was known already) i'm biased". they also asked about whether they could convict some defendants on some charges and or all charges and acquit others so it wasn't exactly looking like they were going to just nullify the entire slate of charges at that time, but as criminal trial attorney itt said those kind of questions arent necessarily indicative of how they would vote ultimately

Mr. Pumroy
May 20, 2001

lol clear ur schedules and cancel your vacays judges youre basically gonna have sovcit cases jamming your courts 4eva

trickybiscuits
Jan 13, 2008

yospos

Evil Fluffy posted:

That's exactly how sovcit propaganda works. "Hey since X happened they jury believes Y" and this case is going to be seen as a giant loving victory for all sorts of far right insanity.

Lawman 0 posted:

I accept the verdict but also think that it is in fact a steaming pile of poo poo.

StandardVC10 posted:

So the Nevada cases are still pending right?

Tayter Swift posted:

At least David Fry gets to go back home to his family :)
My reaction in four quotes. I'm genuinely as shocked as I was when Michael Jackson was acquitted.

Not much else to say that isn't about the Michael Jackson trial.

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013
gosh this sure reminds me of teh scopes monkey trial i mean they both had judges and everything

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
gently caress Oregon. There are 49 states in the union.


EDIT: I never in a million years thought Oregon would be worse than Texas. Not saying Texas is the worst, but it's definitely in the bottom 25 states in terms of dumb/crazy mother fuckers.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
Characteristic behavior from Oregon, famous bastion of conservatism.

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


Cubey posted:

outside of portland and ashland, oregon is redneck as gently caress. source: i live in rural oregon.

this verdict does not surprise me at all with how much people suck outside of those two cities.

It's really pretty at least.

Cascade mountains best mountains

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


What is the over under on state charges being brought

Fake edit intentional misuse of over under

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


Potato Salad posted:

Now for the other no brainer in 11 days that the public really needs no not gently caress up :smithicide:

:smugdon:

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013
new season of gravity falls lookin good

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


General Dog posted:

Characteristic behavior from Oregon, famous bastion of conservatism.
And yet these sagebrush gently caress knobs just wrecked a slam dunk case.

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


Homura and Sickle posted:

one of the jurors (#11) got removed after about a workweek of deliberations after the jury asked the judge whether his partiality was in question when he said "as a former BLM employee (which was known already) i'm biased". they also asked about whether they could convict some defendants on some charges and or all charges and acquit others so it wasn't exactly looking like they were going to just nullify the entire slate of charges at that time, but as criminal trial attorney itt said those kind of questions arent necessarily indicative of how they would vote ultimately

They were also supposed to disregard all earlier deliberation prior to the juror being replaced and reached not guilty on everyone in a few hours lol

Jury system awesome in theory hilarious in practice

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

brugroffil posted:

What is the over under on state charges being brought

Fake edit intentional misuse of over under

6.5

Bubbacub
Apr 17, 2001

What happens to the guns the feds confiscated and used as evidence? Do they get them back?

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Hey guys I was real busy today and didn't see the verdict, I assume they went away for decades ri-


o... oh...


:smithicide:

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
The government done fell off

CortezFantastic
Aug 10, 2003

I SEE DEMONS

trickybiscuits posted:

My reaction in four quotes. I'm genuinely as shocked as I was when Michael Jackson was acquitted.

Not much else to say that isn't about the Michael Jackson trial.

They only compare in that MJ was an open and shut not guilty case and this one was the opposite.

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


I knew when I saw nearly 700 new posts ITT that it wasn't good news

e. but comparisons to Michael Jackson holy poo poo I got me some catch up reading laughing to do

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

Cubey posted:

this gay country deserves the civil war 2 that trump and morons like these guys are trying to make happen

holy poo poo cubey and I agree on something

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Jackson was able to have evidence supressed. Nobody who isn't rich is going to get away with calling blatant child porn "child artistic nudes".

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



I am still flabbergasted by the verdict and want to see some goddamn explanation of how this insanity happened.

SickZip
Jul 29, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Jury Trials Own. This is what legitimate democracy looks like

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

CaptainSarcastic posted:

I am still flabbergasted by the verdict and want to see some goddamn explanation of how this insanity happened.

God is great
Beer is good
People are crazy

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



I've decided this was my fault. My faith in humanity had gotten a little too high, and these fuckers had to come back with a not guilty verdict to make me properly bitter and cynical again.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

Bubbacub posted:

What happens to the guns the feds confiscated and used as evidence? Do they get them back?

They gave Zimmerman his gun back and he actually killed someone with it, so I'm guessing "yes."

SickZip
Jul 29, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Bubbacub posted:

What happens to the guns the feds confiscated and used as evidence? Do they get them back?

Depends on how pissy the government is (probably very).

CortezFantastic
Aug 10, 2003

I SEE DEMONS
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_sexual_abuse_accusations_against_Michael_Jackson

Just to deal with this quick. Spent a few hours one night actually looking into the cases and came out thinking he was completely innocent. I highly suggest the read if you are at all interested in media manipulation in the 90s. Start there and go to the 2005 case. He was a weird guy but all evidence points to him being harmless.

If reading ain't your thing, this is a decent breakdown. https://youtu.be/6pnoQqlygQs

The Bundys had mounds of evidence that a jury chose to ignore. Michael FELT guilty but the truth was he was innocent.

Sorry for derail but I had just read about this and had a change of mind once I actually read the cases. I highly suggest it.

CortezFantastic has issued a correction as of 05:08 on Oct 28, 2016

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


CortezFantastic posted:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_sexual_abuse_accusations_against_Michael_Jackson

Just to deal with this quick. Spent a few hours one night actually looking into the cases and came out thinking he was completely innocent. I highly suggest the read if you are at all interested in media manipulation in the 90s. Start there and go to the 2005 case. He was a weird guy but all evidence points to him being harmless.

If reading ain't your thing, this is a decent breakdown. https://youtu.be/6pnoQqlygQs

The Bundys had mounds of evidence that a jury chose to ignore. Michael FELT guilty but the truth was he was innocent.
Except for the child porn.

SickZip
Jul 29, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Geoj posted:

They gave Zimmerman his gun back and he actually killed someone with it, so I'm guessing "yes."

Probably not. The government has a bunch of tool to drag out the process toward indefinite if they wanted to. Its going to be tactical decision based on a balance of goverment tears vs fear of emboldening sympathizers vs fear of angering sympathizers

Peztopiary
Mar 16, 2009

by exmarx

Bubbacub posted:

What happens to the guns the feds confiscated and used as evidence? Do they get them back?

All of these fine upstanding law abiding individuals get their property back.

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo
easily the most hilarious possible outcome

CortezFantastic
Aug 10, 2003

I SEE DEMONS

Casimir Radon posted:

Except for the child porn.

There was none, considering if there was that would be a new separate charge and you know, evidence.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Kazak_Hstan posted:

This was public land that belongs to all three hundred million Americans, not just dumb hicks who live close to it.

Most of the people who live near it were dead set against the occupation as far as I know. These were fuckwads from elsewhere.

I know a few people who have family in the region and despite being no fans of the feds generally, they thought the occupation was dumb as hell.

nm has issued a correction as of 05:17 on Oct 28, 2016

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


CortezFantastic posted:

There was none, considering if there was that would be a new separate charge and you know, evidence.
Yes there was. But you get away with calling it art when you're rich.

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013
can a poster, a former michael jackson enthusiast, who opens their remarks in deliberations by stating "i think michael jackson's j/o fodder is really relevant to the outcome of the malheur trial" be considered a lovely poster in this case?

CortezFantastic
Aug 10, 2003

I SEE DEMONS
As a lovely poster, guilty

Casimir Radon posted:

Yes there was. But you get away with calling it art when you're rich.

You do realize this was falsified right? And if it wasn't, it would have been evidence. I mean news orgs had to update all these articles to say so, including this one. The book he had a just some 50s drawn art book out of thousands he owned. You can find images of it online. I'm done derailing though.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
Not the outcome we needed, but certainly the one America deserved.

Fiore is already bragging about it, too.

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1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo
isn't living in a decaying empire awesome

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