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squidgee posted:If you did anything with audio or video you'd feel otherwise, but I get this standpoint if you're buying a MBP as a dev machine. Still, it's disappointing because Macs were traditionally an audio/video pro's first choice.
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eames posted:wow is that really it. rip macOS. I have at least another few years out of my 2014 MBP for Apple to turn it around before I wind up with a Microsoft Surface Book. Five years ago I'd never have guessed that I'd be considering a Microsoft laptop over Apple. 2016 has been a seriously weird year.
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I almost feel like Apples' decision to move the laptops to USB-C while leaving the iPhone (and iPad for now) behind is because they absolutely do not want any USB-C iPhone accessories that happen to be compatible with android phones. Higher barrier to switching if you can't take your accessories with you... My 2013 Pro is having some issues with its' RAM and I was considering a new one but with these prices, I may have to just hold out and pray it's not a hardware issue. I really want the one with hardware function keys and not a touchbar but lol you get a garbage 15W processor for daring to desire physical buttons.
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Bob Morales posted:any bets on a revised MacBook getting a second USB C port? Well, now that USB-C has an approved analog audio path, odds are looking good…
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SaturdayKnight posted:but lol you get a garbage 15W processor for daring to desire physical buttons. e: OK the last time a newer revision was slower and died faster was in that vaunted high point of apple design: the third generation ipod shuffle (the one with no buttons) Linguica fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Oct 28, 2016 |
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Amusingly, there is no mouse anywhere in Logitech's lineup with a USB-C wireless adapter. I suppose it is possible to use a dongle and have it hang limply over the side, but that rather defeats the purpose.
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xgalaxy posted:Yea okay. But as long as we are removing old out dated ports lets also remove the loving audio jack then too and replace it with a lightning port. Removing the headphone port from the phone was a stupid decision, Anyone who says stupid poo poo like "the jack is old technology" or "digital is better" is a loving moron.
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Linguica posted:OK the last time a newer revision was slower and died faster was in that vaunted high point of apple design: the third generation ipod shuffle (the one with no buttons) It's funny because that shuffle was the one Apple claimed proto-Siri would replace all the buttons and on the new MacBook Pro Apple is once again saying Siri can replace buttons. (Sort of)
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theperminator posted:Removing the headphone port from the phone was a stupid decision, Anyone who says stupid poo poo like "the jack is old technology" or "digital is better" is a loving moron. How about "I don't use it"
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Paid $2000 new for this bad boy in November of 2013. Good to know that Apple is charging $400 more for almost identical specs  
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squidgee posted:I have at least another few years out of my 2014 MBP for Apple to turn it around before I wind up with a Microsoft Surface Book. I really wonder how much a MBP with a touch screen would end up costing. It'd be really high, considering the price increases they just went through (to pay for the OLED and P3 gamut display.) Still, as exciting as the Surface looks, i really feel like the standard ways of controlling a computer are still much more efficient and comfortable. For me mice are better than trackpads, except for a couple gestural things. I'd love a Macbook that had it's trackpad replaced with a touchscreen though, with the haptic engine and giant trackpad it seems like that's where they're going. mattdev posted:Paid $2000 new for this bad boy in November of 2013. Good to know that Apple is charging $400 more for almost identical specs Isn't it meant as a Air replacement? Just paying for lightness and thinness, while exploiting the MBPro branding.
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8ender posted:How about "I don't use it" Good for you? It's probably the most commonly used connector in the world, and you never have to worry about your headphones going flat.
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Before the event I had my eyes on the entry level 13 inch rmbp with 512 mB of storage and a 2.7 (3.1) GHz i5. After the event the new entry level rmbp has only a 2.0 (3.1) GHz i5 and when specced out in the exact same way (except for processor) it's £20 more. Am I missing something or did apple literally just announce an identical laptop to one they've been selling for a year but with a worse processor and a small price increase? Edit: and now it has less functionality with no usb-a or sd slot
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two decent blog articles on the new macs. http://mjtsai.com/blog/2016/10/27/new-macbook-pros-and-the-state-of-the-mac/ https://512pixels.net/2016/10/the-mac-line-is-still-kinda-broken/ oh and this gem:
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Twelve Elves posted:So is the Mac Mini just dead at this point? 100%, along with the airs and the Mac Pro.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:100%, along with the airs and the Mac Pro. I'm just waiting for the inevitable announcement of Xcode on the iPad Pro 2 and then I'd declare macOS dead as a whole. With the direction they've shown yesterday I don't even think we'll ever see ARM Macbooks. edit: interesting sidenote, the optical S/PDIF output inside the headphone jack is history. eames fucked around with this message at 09:35 on Oct 28, 2016 |
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I get going all-in on the USB-C but no SD card reader is stupid on a Pro. The Touch Bar will probably revolutionise DJ-ing though. Let's hope they bump the specs on the Macbook and lower the price (lol), so we can at least get a somewhat reasonable laptop without gimmicky stuff we don't need.
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Xabi posted:
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So I've been plugging along with a 2011 MBA for general work/surfing. I was thinking of replacing it this year with a new 13 rmbp. Sounds like I might as well hold off for another year?
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Not having a USB port for thumb drives is going to piss off a lot of people.
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Imagine not having HDMI I'm so so disappointed with these retarded laptops
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The problem with Apple going all in on USB-c and Thunderbolt is they don't have the market share in laptops to force the issue. How many ports have they tried to introduce that have gone precisely nowhere? It's nothing but an annoyance to anyone that works in an office and needs their wants laptop to be compatible with all the other IT gear. Also a company that prides itself on its seamlessly unified ecosystem having a flagship phone that can't be plugged into its flagship laptop looks laughably shoddy.
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Residency Evil posted:So I've been plugging along with a 2011 MBA for general work/surfing. I was thinking of replacing it this year with a new 13 rmbp. Sounds like I might as well hold off for another year? Mid 2011 13" MBA here. I'm going to wait until next year for the Kaby Lake update. Also, never buy 1st gen of a new Apple product. Always some kinks.
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Disappointed that it's the same lovely keyboard as the 12" Macbooks.
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peanut- posted:The problem with Apple going all in on USB-c and Thunderbolt is they don't have the market share in laptops to force the issue. How many ports have they tried to introduce that have gone precisely nowhere? It's nothing but an annoyance to anyone that works in an office and needs their wants laptop to be compatible with all the other IT gear. I don't know, how many? Firewire I *might* give you, but it lasted for a long time and it wasn't too hard to find devices for it. Other than that? TB3/USB C will be the ubiquitous port in the near future. Twice the throughput as USB 3 if used as a USB connection (10Mbps). And 50Mbps for thunderbolt connections. The Samsung T3 external SSD is a USB C device. I think we're going to see more and more devices moving to USB C (not just phones) over the next year or so that will come with A<->C adaptor for legacy ports. Besides, Apple's push is to eliminate wired connections and have everything sync with the iCloud mothership. I do agree with you that not having a lightning, or bundling USB A<->C adapters port at the very least is a mistake. However, I have no problem with them going all-in with TB3/USB C. The last time they did something like this it was floppy drives. And the comments were just as hilarious then as the "mah ports!" are now. Proteus Jones fucked around with this message at 11:59 on Oct 28, 2016 |
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Do you guys seriously want a lightning connector on the macbook so you can hook up your lightning earpods? Really? That would be the ONLY use case for it. It would be completely useless for anyone who doesn't own an iPhone 7. Sometimes I feel like the majority of this thread are just trolls. If you own an iPhone 7 and don't have ANY other earphones, buy these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B017...YW1L&ref=plSrch The sound is better than the earpods, they're wireless and they're cheap.
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LPG Giant posted:Do you guys seriously want a lightning connector on the macbook so you can hook up your lightning earpods? Really? That would be the ONLY use case for it. It would be completely useless for anyone who doesn't own an iPhone 7. Sometimes I feel like the majority of this thread are just trolls. The point is one of their devices comes with headphones which a lot of people end up using, and it doesn't plug into their other products. That's just plain weird.
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flosofl posted:I don't know, how many? Firewire I *might* give you, but it lasted for a long time and it wasn't too hard to find devices for it. Other than that? Getting a lot of use out of those Thunderbolt ports are you? USB-c may well be the future but it isn't the here-and-now when I actually need to use my machine. USB is utterly ubiquitous and won't stop being so for many years - most manufacturers are still going to make the easy thing that they know works on the vast majority of devices.
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Thunderbolt is 'fancy mini displayport' at this stage. The USB standard has to move, but I'd be a lot happier if it were an evolution rather than just a full-on replacement.
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peanut- posted:Also a company that prides itself on its seamlessly unified ecosystem having a flagship phone that can't be plugged into its flagship laptop looks laughably shoddy. I'm pretty sure this isn't the first time I've seen this posted, and frankly, jesus christ, just stop. This exists: http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MK0X2AM/A/usb-c-to-lightning-cable-1-m I mean I know right now ITT it's basically a competition to see who can vomit out the (Also, hint, this cable is not a new product. The reason for it to exist has been around since March 2015; this isn't Apple's first USB C only laptop.)
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Mandals posted:Well, gently caress. Yeah, you forgot their big innovation: Hermès watch bands!! Who cares about anything else?? I bought the original rMB when they came out and still love it (including the keyboard — I actually prefer the shallow travel), but USB-C was sure a pain in the rear end especially since it's not even uniform across their entire product line and it looks like it won't be for a year or so, or whenever they update the iMac. Could they really not have added a single USB-C port to the 2015 iMac update? In the meantime everyone with a laptop + desktop will have to buy two of every drat cable for devices they want to connect to both computers. Whenever I travel anywhere I need to bring two breakout adaptors—one for SD card reading, the other for HDMI/VGA and USB-A. Still, it seems like it will work out in the long run, unlike every single one of Apple's other stupid ports that are never adopted by anyone (hi, thunderbolt). Not super stoked on the touch bar, and I imagine like Force Touch it will be ignored by 99% of their users. $300 is a pretty ridiculous premium for that + a 5% spec bump in the integrated graphics card + slightly faster RAM. Saladman fucked around with this message at 12:28 on Oct 28, 2016 |
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BobHoward posted:I'm pretty sure this isn't the first time I've seen this posted, and frankly, jesus christ, just stop. This exists: The point is having to buy a dongle to do something as easy as plugging in your phone or now headphones. Should have been one USB left behind in my opinion. USB isn't dead yet in my opinion. Maybs I'll be laughing at this post a few years from now but drat.
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Well, I did get six years of use out of all my minidp to HDMI/vga/dvi adapters So out of the gate I need: USB C to USB 3 mini adapter for my external HD USB C to USB for my external keyboard or mouse (or use Magic Mouse) Another USB C to USB for my flash drives (or buy new ones, probably the same price) Still waiting on adapter to Cinema Display I could just get a USB C hub, not cheap but fixes all these problems at once Also eat a dick touchbar
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looks like i bought the last good iphone (6s) and the last good macbook pro (2015 15") im just going to believe this so i can feel better about myself and not want that big touchpad i don't have
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