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SeanBeansShako posted:It's the post your fun history facts thread, I left when a bunch of poo poo posters were pretty much poo poo posting. 
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Ensign Expendable posted:The ability to look up Soviet records to compare to German versions of events will never not be amazing. I read about a battle where (as the Germans claim) two Mechanized Corps' worth of T-34s drove into their ambush and 90% of them were destroyed. Actual Soviet tank losses for that day, across the entire Front: 5. Did you make a cheating at statistics article about that one?
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Oct 27, 2016 18:49
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SeanBeansShako posted:It's the post your fun history facts thread, I left when a bunch of poo poo posters were pretty much poo poo posting. Aw, that's dissapointing. I've let it accumulate like 400 unread posts, but the page I'm on is chock full of rad HRE maps.
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Oct 27, 2016 18:55
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PittTheElder posted:Aw, that's dissapointing. I've let it accumulate like 400 unread posts, but the page I'm on is chock full of rad HRE maps. It was doing decent until some guy decided it was a great time to break out a 'this nazi wasn't as bad as THIS NAZI' facts. Then like always it went down faster than a Hussars breeches at a Parisian brothel.
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Oct 27, 2016 19:00
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Trin Tragula posted:Trenches Always nice to see a great post.
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Oct 27, 2016 19:25
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Monocled Falcon posted:Did you make a cheating at statistics article about that one? It's in the pipeline. I have about 20-30 articles queued up to keep the content varied.
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Oct 27, 2016 19:26
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Tevery Best posted:Always nice to see a great post. Yeah thanks for the PLC stuff. I seem to recall JCDent mentioning he'd post on them somewhere way up thread... Could anyone recommended a good Stalin biography? How about a not entirely terrible pro Stalin bio? Unfortunately I only read English.
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Oct 27, 2016 20:17
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Vaginal Vagrant posted:Could anyone recommended a good Stalin biography? I liked Edvard Radzinsky's Stalin bio a lot, since Radzinsky clearly isn't a fan of the man.
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Oct 27, 2016 21:00
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SeanBeansShako posted:It was doing decent until some guy decided it was a great time to break out a 'this nazi wasn't as bad as THIS NAZI' facts. It's starting to get better, and it likely will. It would get better faster if you lot posted to change the topic.
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Oct 27, 2016 22:15
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lenoon posted:After Operation Michael though, then you start to get tanks involved in mobile warfare again. Luckily by then the tanks involved had been specifically designed with mobile warfare in mind, which were both more reliable and a hell of a lot quicker. There's even stuff like the Amiens whippet, probably the first time a single roaming tank caused havoc after punching too far through German lines. Theres even a legend that it carried on after the capture of the crew, a story that crops up in the most surprising places...
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Oct 27, 2016 22:23
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xthetenth posted:It's starting to get better, and it likely will. It would get better faster if you lot posted to change the topic. Alternatively, redirect them here. 
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xthetenth posted:It's starting to get better, and it likely will. It would get better faster if you lot posted to change the topic.
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Oct 27, 2016 22:32
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Oct 27, 2016 22:34
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HEY GAL posted:i posted! people care less about how to tell the difference between worn paper and worm-eaten paper than they do about Hitler Posts Part 55: The Hitlering See also: the atom bomb argument and the D&D thread.
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Oct 28, 2016 01:52
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Kinda tempted to respond to hitler arguments by just posting hipster hitler t shirts.
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OwlFancier posted:Kinda tempted to respond to hitler arguments by just posting hipster hitler t shirts. 
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Shouldn't that be "Only available in white" ?
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Oct 28, 2016 02:23
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Grey Hunter posted:And up to date - not to self, don't let yourself get 2,000 post behind ever again.... For mercenaries, and the transition between feudal and early modern militaries, I highly recommend Michael Mallet's Mercenaries and the Masters. It's Italian and a little earlier than the 30 Years Wars, but it covers how mercenary bands developed from very successful bandit groups into the core of a modern standing army. Mallet writes in a style that's clear and enjoyable to read, rather than high-level academese, and spends a fair chunk of the book throwing shade on the Florentines in general and Machiavelli in particular as wrong on everything about war.
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Oct 28, 2016 04:31
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SeanBeansShako posted:Wow the quality of that post your questions history thread just dropped hilariously once more after Hitler was brought up. Not to mention the crews of the first submersibles. Link contains the confederate sub H.L. Hunley, which sank three times, losing 21 crewmen in the process. It's a testament to military discipline that the guys pegged for the third tour didn't just tell them to go gently caress themselves.
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Tias posted:Not to mention the crews of the first submersibles. Link contains the confederate sub H.L. Hunley, which sank three times, losing 21 crewmen in the process. At this point, isn't it better to just rename the thing to fool the crew, or stave off bad luck or whatever? Provided you don't scrap the drat thing given its track record, of course.
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Oct 28, 2016 10:32
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Fat Samurai posted:At this point, isn't it better to just rename the thing to fool the crew, or stave off bad luck or whatever? Provided you don't scrap the drat thing given its track record, of course. Scrapping it probably wasn't an option, it was the CSA's attempt at a Wunderwaffe, ideally to break the US blockade and flood the CSA with weapons and stuff.
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Oct 28, 2016 10:47
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Vaginal Vagrant posted:Could anyone recommended a good Stalin biography? Umm that's going to be a bit of an ask if you want anything published after the 1950s, I think 
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Shouldn't that be "Only available in white" ? Brown is also an option. Wouldn't wear that in Austria or Germany though. That's either a steep fine or up to 3 years prison in Germany. In Austria that's 5-10 years.
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Oct 28, 2016 11:03
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JaucheCharly posted:Brown is also an option. Maybe don't wear it at all ever anywhere.
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Oct 28, 2016 11:04
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Thanks for the recomendations - Mercenaries and their masters is the next read - after a pallet clenser of Machine of Death.
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Oct 28, 2016 11:21
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Started today with thesis work. Realized I probably need to track down which regiments were with Tilly at Magdeburg. Smoked a cigarette. If I don't restrain myself at all I'll end up with a thesis the length of a doctoral thesis and that's not probably worth it unless someone pays me to write one.
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Grey Hunter posted:Thanks for the recomendations - Mercenaries and their masters is the next read - after a pallet clenser of Machine of Death. ? 
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Fat Samurai posted:At this point, isn't it better to just rename the thing to fool the crew
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Dyslexia - the fun of spelling the wrong words so your spell checker makes you look like a idiot. I defiantly hate it.
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HEY GAL posted:yeah let them confuse it with some other mid 19th century submarine No, no, no... It's a new mid 19th century submarine. Improved version. This one doesn't sink as much. Top secret stuff. That's why you haven't heard about it.
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Fat Samurai posted:No, no, no... It's a new mid 19th century submarine. Improved version. This one doesn't sink as much. Top secret stuff. That's why you haven't heard about it.
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Kemper Boyd posted:Started today with thesis work. Realized I probably need to track down which regiments were with Tilly at Magdeburg. Smoked a cigarette. Also Kemper Boyd posted:I have blossomed out into a flower whose name is IDEOLOGY and whose petals are PSYCHOANALYSIS, POST-STRUCTURALISM and IF I'M THE FIRST TO WRITE ABOUT THIS I CANNOT BE WRONG But sincerely, good luck with the project!
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MANime in the sheets posted:Scrapping it probably wasn't an option, it was the CSA's attempt at a Wunderwaffe, ideally to break the US blockade and flood the CSA with weapons and stuff. To be fair it was the first submersible to sink an enemy ship( the steam sloop-of-war Housatonic), though it exploded itself doing so. Also, it sank, losing more than half of its hands during the training voyage - which is probably where I would have started getting out of the confederate navy if it was me 
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FastestGunAlive posted:Good question, I'd like the know as well. My understanding is that it was LBJs call but I don't know why. I believe several advisors recommended staying, because it had pinned a large number of NVA in place. I also believe the Marines felt they were doing fine and were upset when told to withdraw. The major reason that Khe Sahn was abandoned was that Westmoreland was finally shitcanned after the Tet Offensive happened. While the Tet Offensive was ostensibly a pretty major victory for the US and in particular showed that ARVN could be a pretty effective fighting force, which is what the US ultimately wanted after all, it totally soured public opinion on the war and led lawmakers to believe that the war was unwinnable. I'm not sure who exactly ordered the abandonment of the base but in any case Abrams (Westy's replacement) was not looking to draw the NVA into major battles in the same way Westy was and was much more concerned with actually fighting a counter-insurgency war and winning the support of the population. In addition, the siege had left the base totally hosed - the runway in particular was literally falling apart due to the number of heavy transport flights they'd had to bring in non stop to bring supplies to the defenders. As for the NVA, they pulled out of the area once it was clear that the siege would not be successful. With the NVA not being in the area any more any notion of Khe Sahn pinning down NVA formations disappeared, and so did the justification for maintaining the base in the eyes of many. Of course as soon as the US abandoned the base the NVA just walked in and took the area, which was a pretty common pattern throughout the war (and is essentially the plot for the great book Matterhorn). By the way Westmoreland was so fixated on Khe Sahn that he thought the entire Tet Offensive was set up to draw troops and support away from Khe Sahn so the NVA could take it. Till the day he died Westmoreland never, ever understood the war he was fighting, and was firmly convinced that with a bit more airpower, a few more troops and a tad more support from the US government he could have won the war.
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I saw a book named Der grosse Krieg at the antiquarian shop, from 1895. It was about the Franco-Prussian war. It was German printed in (((Fraktur))) so I skipped it even though it had beautiful drawings, including political cartoons about Nappy III that buffoon. It made me think that at some point, there must have been Germans who called WW1 as The Second Great War. Nenonen fucked around with this message at 13:16 on Oct 28, 2016 |
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MikeCrotch posted:As for the NVA, they pulled out of the area once it was clear that the siege would not be successful. With the NVA not being in the area any more any notion of Khe Sahn pinning down NVA formations disappeared, and so did the justification for maintaining the base in the eyes of many. Of course as soon as the US abandoned the base the NVA just walked in and took the area, which was a pretty common pattern throughout the war (and is essentially the plot for the great book Matterhorn). Chiming in to say that Fire Base Matterhorn owns, and everyone interested in the perspective of a junior marine officer in 'Nam should read the poo poo out of it. Whoever recommended it to me itt, thank you!
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Nenonen posted:I saw a book named Der grosse Krieg at the antiquarian shop, from 1895. It was German printed in (((Fraktur))) so I skipped it even though it had beautiful drawings. no other war has ever been as bad for them as the 30yw, so no other war would attain the same status in speech. i remember hearing that doenitz's surrender announcement said he was doing it so that things wouldn't get as bad as they did in the 30yw, which means everyone's standing around looking at their cities getting bombed flat and going "it could be worse..." HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 13:14 on Oct 28, 2016 |
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Tias posted:Chiming in to say that Fire Base Matterhorn owns, and everyone interested in the perspective of a junior marine officer in 'Nam should read the poo poo out of it. Whoever recommended it to me itt, thank you!
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:See also: the atom bomb argument and the D&D thread. The DnD a-bomb thread is a yearly tradition and a pro-click if you want to hear about how the US bears ultimate blame for WW2, or see an actual communist get pissy because someone said "the soviets didn't have much amphibious assault capability."
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vintagepurple posted:The DnD a-bomb thread is a yearly tradition and a pro-click if you want to hear about how the US bears ultimate blame for WW2, or see an actual communist get pissy because someone said "the soviets didn't have much amphibious assault capability."
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