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Coincidentially I just read a newspaper article (actual paper vrsion even) about how ordoliberalism has failed, much like neoliberalism.
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His Divine Shadow posted:It favors local producers and puts a higher price on sweets. It's a double win. Hmmmm, I think you are forgetting the part about "single market" and "free circulation of goods".
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Oct 28, 2016 10:43
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Now if everone else would, too.
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Oct 28, 2016 10:47
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His Divine Shadow posted:Now if everone else would, too. Yeah, let's go back to mercantilism, it' been a while since we gave that a go.
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Oct 28, 2016 10:50
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MeLKoR posted:Yeah, let's go back to mercantilism, it' been a while since we gave that a go. Who said anything about going back to mercantilism? There is a pretty good alternative, you may have heard of it, it's called international communism.
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Oct 28, 2016 10:51
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My main takeaway from this thread is that the death of Nokia has hosed up Finland in much more deep and subtle ways than I would expect, materially, politically, but most of all psychologically.
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Oct 28, 2016 10:54
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Who said anything about going back to mercantilism? There is a pretty good alternative, you may have heard of it, it's called international communism. steinrokkan posted:My main takeaway from this thread is that the death of Nokia has hosed up Finland in much more deep and subtle ways than I would expect, materially, politically, but most of all psychologically. We can send them our ex-prime minister to give them a few tips, they seemed to like him a lot. MeLKoR fucked around with this message at 11:01 on Oct 28, 2016 |
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Oct 28, 2016 10:58
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MeLKoR posted:Oh, I wasn't aware that those were the options. You mean the whole time it was a matter of choosing between neoliberalism and full communism now? Sign me up!
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Oct 28, 2016 11:04
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MeLKoR posted:You mean the whole time it was a matter of choosing between neoliberalism and full communism now? Sign me up! It's been pretty well established that the history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles. This includes today, bub. Full communism has always been an option.
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Oct 28, 2016 11:05
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MeLKoR posted:Yeah, let's go back to mercantilism, it' been a while since we gave that a go. If defined as the type of economy that existed roughly 1950-1980 then yes, lets go back to "mercantilism" (or limited global trade as economist christer lindholm in finland terms it) then sure, it produced better growth and less income disparities. But you know, it's coming regardless what I say, and a whole of other unpleasant poo poo with it because this system is loving everything up good.
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Oct 28, 2016 11:07
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Pesmerga posted:In before people start whining about ordoliberalism like it means something. 
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Oct 28, 2016 11:29
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MeLKoR posted:The problem is that the Finns have long been living above their means. They need to review their entitlements, outrageous healthcare and education expenses, cut outdated worker "protections" that have been choking the economy. The Finns need to adapt to the modern world and start competing with the Chinese workers. This sounds like our current government now. BTW.
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Oct 28, 2016 11:35
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Counterpoint: if the end of a hidden subsidy for salmiakki leads to their disparition, it will be a victory of the free market.
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Oct 28, 2016 12:27
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His Divine Shadow posted:It favors local producers and puts a higher price on sweets. It's a double win. gently caress local producers and parochialism (but i am repeating myself) universal basic income will make this policy entirely unproblematic
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Oct 28, 2016 12:32
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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blowfish posted:gently caress local producers and parochialism (but i am repeating myself)
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Oct 28, 2016 13:23
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blowfish posted:universal basic income will make this policy entirely unproblematic In the year two thousand and when the hell freezes over
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Oct 28, 2016 13:28
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blowfish posted:gently caress local producers and parochialism (but i am repeating myself) brb gonna go buy some PDO certified cheeses first
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Oct 28, 2016 13:31
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Lurkers please come back in 20 pages this is gonna get ugly.
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Oct 28, 2016 13:47
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steinrokkan posted:My main takeaway from this thread is that the death of Nokia has hosed up Finland in much more deep and subtle ways than I would expect, materially, politically, but most of all psychologically. In Finland, we have saying, "Finland is a banana republic that ran out of bananas."
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Oct 28, 2016 13:57
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Here's incontrovertible proof that PDO cheeses are superior  Can you do that with string cheese or whatever Kraft-made horror you Americans cram into your mouths? I think not.
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Oct 28, 2016 14:12
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Here's incontrovertible proof that PDO cheeses are superior Well, can you do this with your communist cheese? 
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Oct 28, 2016 14:20
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:Well, can you do this with your communist cheese? Yes, but then it'd be a nice slice of Beaufort (AOP) and not a disgusting orange brick.
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Oct 28, 2016 14:26
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Yes, but then it'd be a nice slice of Beaufort (AOP) and not a disgusting orange brick. That's a fine and affordable cheddar, produces in a modern and efficient factory, you luddite.
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Oct 28, 2016 14:32
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:That's a fine and affordable cheddar, produces in a modern and efficient factory, you luddite. Maybe, but if words have meaning, I'm not sure it actually qualifies as cheese. It looks like it's actually painted sawdust held together by carrageenans of some sort.
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Oct 28, 2016 14:41
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communism doesn't work tyvm
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Here's incontrovertible proof that PDO cheeses are superior 
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:That's a fine and affordable cheddar, produces in a modern and efficient factory, you luddite. Please do not use the trade mark "cheddar" without an accompanying proof of prior consent issued by the Kraft Heinz corporate offices. We at KRaft Heinz are immensely proud of our contributions to world's cuisine, which include not only our all-authentic cheddar, but also our other original products with world-wide trade mark protection: Parmesan(R), Mozzarella(R), Camembert (pending registration)., and therefore cannot tolerate an uncontrolled dissemination of our intellectual property in places we have deemed incompatible with our corporate ethics & integrity guidelines.
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Oct 28, 2016 15:20
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:Well, can you do this with your communist cheese? Cultural victory status: achieved.
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Oct 28, 2016 15:26
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Probably better than a lot of
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Counterpoint: if the end of a hidden subsidy for salmiakki leads to their disparition, it will be a victory of the free market.
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blowfish posted:Probably better than a lot of England has never produced any kind of drinkable alcoholic beverage so I'm not worried. Also lol California will be burnt to a cinder before the plains of proud Champagne start producing bad wine because of climate change. A Buttery Pastry posted:Please recant your genocidal views. Salmiakki is disgusting and I apologize to no one.
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Oct 28, 2016 15:34
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finns love for salmiak is forgiven if only because they make really good licorice
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Oct 28, 2016 16:49
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Regarde Aduck posted:Do you actually know what communism is? Hollande was a lovely neo-liberal like the rest of European leaders. Only he was wearing the centre-left uniform. Now the centre-right will take his place and enact exactly the same policies but with the ability to be more openly racist. You're a dickhead. So what is Communism then? Lets get the definition straight here. Wouldnt want to step on any toes. Are you a communist?
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Oct 28, 2016 17:33
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Isn"t this the province or communidad that banned foie gras?
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LeoMarr posted:So what is Communism then? Lets get the definition straight here. Wouldnt want to step on any toes. Are you a communist? Communism is when everybody laughs and is happy. If a system creates non-happy or even repressed and/or starving people it can't be Communism. But next time it will work, promise!
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Oct 28, 2016 18:11
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Banning foie gras is a good thing. I wish France would do it.
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Oct 28, 2016 18:10
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Banning foie gras is a good thing. I wish France would do it. I'm revoking your french card right this instant.
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Oct 28, 2016 18:12
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Pinch Me Im Meming posted:I'm revoking your french card right this instant. agreed *makes tasty leberwurst toast*
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Oct 28, 2016 18:16
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It doesn't mean a thing to me, I'm a world citizen. Seriously tho animal cruelty is hosed up
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