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PyrE
Feb 2, 2005

Soldier? Check.
Flight? True.
Commie? NO!
Rich? Quite.
How has multiplayer performance been on the ps4? Are the matches unplayable or do the servers actually work?

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Phrakusca
Feb 16, 2011
It's been very stable for me personally. But some of the players in my lobbies have a bug that prevents them from going anywhere near flags and they also get stuck on the outskirts of the map for the entire match. Pretty weird.

Tei
Feb 19, 2011

PyrE posted:

How has multiplayer performance been on the ps4? Are the matches unplayable or do the servers actually work?

Everything works, but you live in some distopia where you can't close the game because [options] (the button that generally in a game opens the main menu to exit the game) just toogle to another useless view of the current screen. And the whole console suffer like under a giant finger. But the game runs flawlessly.... is everything else that is not the game that is super stressed.

sunday at work
Apr 6, 2011

"Man is the animal that thinks something is wrong."

Tei posted:

We can uninvent sniper rifles, but we can't uninvent snipers. Don't blame the weapon, blame the person.

True. Though if ever there was something better tailored for the worst kind of sperg who plays video games I don't know what it was.

Parkingtigers
Feb 23, 2008
TARGET CONSUMER
LOVES EVERY FUCKING GAME EVER MADE. EVER.
I... like the goofy medal system. I do get the agony of choice because I know I'll likely not get all 5 in a week (got 2 the first week), and choosing which one to go for each time. I know I need 15 stationary gun kills, so I choose that, then I get a bunch of headshots I could have fracked for another medal and I'm kicking myself. Etc etc.

But ultimately this is just a long term set of goals to tick off. I've got the plat, trophies are done. I'll get my class ranks up to 10 along the way, and buy all the guns as I level. That'll just happen. The codex (which is still glitchy) is pretty easy and getting 10 kills for each weapon (across all variants no less) is peasy. So what is there for my long-term OCD? Dog tags and medals. 100 kills with each weapon is doable, just a matter of spending a long time with each gun. But the medals are specific "do this poo poo, in this order, before next week". That's an optional focus I can get behind.

I fully understand why and how others will hate this. But for me, who usually gets bored of MP shooters after 5 minutes, having things to tick off is one more answer to the "why am I shooting the mans?" question. (I don't NEED it, I play this game and Battlefront a lot because of the setting and the feeling of being in a battle that creates its own story. In other games I would need it, here it's just a bonus.)

I played a bit of BF 3 and 4, the ribbons just seemed to be spit out at me almost randomly as I did stuff. They were never a goal, or a tangible sense of accomplishment for the most part. They were just... there.

Ok, I know I'm possibly in a minority liking these medals, but just wanted to throw it out there so when you're wondering who the gently caress thinks this is a good idea, you can remember me and think "oh yeah, THAT guy".

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer

Yorkshire Pudding posted:

Much like the Great War itself, this game leaves many unanswered questions.

Why can I not buy weapons and gadgets outside of a game?

Seriously what the gently caress? I shouldn't be surprised at how incredibly dumb an EA/DICE game can be but this is just one of the most baffling things. I've bought almost no upgrades because when I'm in a match I'm playing I forget to go to the customize screen. It just promotes people actively not playing in a battle as they are trying to compare weapons to buy.

I unlocked some new skins for a few guns from loot boxes but hell if I'll ever remember to equip them mid match.

moist turtleneck
Jul 17, 2003

Represent.



Dinosaur Gum
Yeah I'm really confused, I can't tell if they thought it was a good idea to do it that way or if there's just something really hosed up in the code that forces it to be that way

shut up blegum
Dec 17, 2008


--->Plastic Lawn<---

Popete posted:

Seriously what the gently caress? I shouldn't be surprised at how incredibly dumb an EA/DICE game can be but this is just one of the most baffling things. I've bought almost no upgrades because when I'm in a match I'm playing I forget to go to the customize screen. It just promotes people actively not playing in a battle as they are trying to compare weapons to buy.

I unlocked some new skins for a few guns from loot boxes but hell if I'll ever remember to equip them mid match.

In the beta you could unlock a ton of stuff online, why would they remove that feature from the main game?

I just bought this, really liked the intro mission. It shows that you're just a number and if you die, someone else will take your spot. Now to hop onto the multiplayer and die over there :v:!

Tei
Feb 19, 2011

moist turtleneck posted:

Yeah I'm really confused, I can't tell if they thought it was a good idea to do it that way or if there's just something really hosed up in the code that forces it to be that way

http://wiki.c2.com/?DesignByCommittee

FastestGunAlive
Apr 7, 2010

Dancing palm tree.

Parkingtigers posted:

I... like the goofy medal system. I do get the agony of choice because I know I'll likely not get all 5 in a week (got 2 the first week), and choosing which one to go for each time. I know I need 15 stationary gun kills, so I choose that, then I get a bunch of headshots I could have fracked for another medal and I'm kicking myself. Etc etc.

But ultimately this is just a long term set of goals to tick off. I've got the plat, trophies are done. I'll get my class ranks up to 10 along the way, and buy all the guns as I level. That'll just happen. The codex (which is still glitchy) is pretty easy and getting 10 kills for each weapon (across all variants no less) is peasy. So what is there for my long-term OCD? Dog tags and medals. 100 kills with each weapon is doable, just a matter of spending a long time with each gun. But the medals are specific "do this poo poo, in this order, before next week". That's an optional focus I can get behind.

I fully understand why and how others will hate this. But for me, who usually gets bored of MP shooters after 5 minutes, having things to tick off is one more answer to the "why am I shooting the mans?" question. (I don't NEED it, I play this game and Battlefront a lot because of the setting and the feeling of being in a battle that creates its own story. In other games I would need it, here it's just a bonus.)

I played a bit of BF 3 and 4, the ribbons just seemed to be spit out at me almost randomly as I did stuff. They were never a goal, or a tangible sense of accomplishment for the most part. They were just... there.

Ok, I know I'm possibly in a minority liking these medals, but just wanted to throw it out there so when you're wondering who the gently caress thinks this is a good idea, you can remember me and think "oh yeah, THAT guy".

These are the equivalent of 3 and 4's assignments rather than medals and ribbons.

Edit: also, even disregarding the weekly time limit, making each medal and even each individual medal criteria track separately is clearly a way to artificially encourage more play time.

FastestGunAlive fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Oct 28, 2016

Fingat
May 17, 2004

Shhh. My Common Sense is Tingling



shut up blegum posted:

In the beta you could unlock a ton of stuff online, why would they remove that feature from the main game?

I just bought this, really liked the intro mission. It shows that you're just a number and if you die, someone else will take your spot. Now to hop onto the multiplayer and die over there :v:!

There is a companion app and Web page where you still can do this. They are saying when you are in BF1 you can't change it from the main screen, and only can once you are in a match on a server. But I thought this is how BF4 was too?

sunday at work
Apr 6, 2011

"Man is the animal that thinks something is wrong."
It was, and it was stupid there too. You couldn't even update your load out on the test range.

Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.

I just like how I finally join a match, open the customize screen to start actually looking at things. Oh round ends k thanks I'll just wait another 5 minutes to try again.

mellowjournalism
Jul 31, 2004

helllooo
I uh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4if3KEWKYA

I think I am done cutting up war films Edward. Happenings of rank, utter madness fall upon me each night in torrents. I have come down with fever dreams, and trenchwrist. Between each dream I am awakened into a recurring nightmare where I am paralysed, unable to move, save for the flitting of my eye between a carousel of demented pygmyies, a report on my squad's performance, a troubling report on my personal performance, and a ghastly roster of the dead. It is loving horrible

Tei posted:

Why the UI is so terrible?

This one is easy to imagine: designers and programers aiming at a moving target. They start building a table with 4 legs, then the spec change to a horse and then change to a car, the result is a car made of wood with horse legs instead of wheels. Is painfull to look at, and cant walk, the interior is made of horse viscera and pointy wood spikes.

... is stupid, insane, useless and everybody know is awful. (The devs know, the players know, management dont want anybody to talk about it or recognize is a problem that exist)

Tei normally I agree with you but no this UI is literally from loving hell


I am pretty sure every single loving thing you do in the menu gets sent to their lovely and cheap server rentals for a round trip because these insular fucks think everyone else in the world has lightning fast swedish internet. And for all their hard work constantly "syncing up" my profile, the companion still doesn't show any of the god drat actual loadouts I've made in game :lol:

Egg Poacher posted:

I came across a similar hero last night

http://i.imgur.com/H3tSXQC.gifv

edit: This gif also touches on something I've definitely noticed: People do not respect tanks. I've gotten so many kills from people who just do not react to me at all. Either that or they don't realise I'm hostile. I honestly have people run right up to my turret all the bloody time.

:allears: People really do not respect metal poo poo in this game.

Was he trying to get an elevated position to rain down pistol pellets on your squadmate ??


Born in Bexhill posted:

Just grinded the Order of Icarus medal over a few days and getting those last few fighter kills over the Alps in heated dogfights amidst heavy flak was pretty epic. Most fun I've had since BC2.

The dogfights in this game are some of the most insane and epic fun I've ever had. I wish there were a few more hills and canyons you could dive into. I'd also love a full blown plane mode where you escort bombers or something, I dunno. Tell me about the lag though girl

shut up blegum
Dec 17, 2008


--->Plastic Lawn<---
Wow, the campaign is amazing. Never thought I'd say this about a battlefield game.

Tei
Feb 19, 2011

Yesterday I took the artillery truck and equiped it with the pum pum weapon. Proceed to anoy the hell of enemy infantry, then rush to the behemoth to murder it has soon it spawned.

Annoyed the hell of everyone in the server enough that half the enemy team decided to hunt me.

Being a good game for good idiots, they failed to kill me, so there was a squad of enemy players on top of me, tryiing to block my vision (they probably already wasted all the antivehicle ammo) that tricked my funny, so I took the role to taxi them around the map to kill friendly players.

Tried to record the funny thing I did, but I did something wrong with the new interface and failed to record anything :( argh.

This was in mount grappa, is probably a less effective vehicle in any other map.

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

My best grappa tank story was when I was flying the zeppelin and nailed two heavy tanks and one light tank that were clusterfucking their way across the trenches from D to B with one volley from the main gun. Nine kills in one go!

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine
Man I really hope they nerf the crap out of the stationary AA guns soon, cause those things are making it impossible to use planes or the blimps if anyone uses them

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

shut up blegum posted:

Wow, the campaign is amazing. Never thought I'd say this about a battlefield game.

yeah I just got this and I'm surprised how much I'm enjoying the single player, its very well done

BitBasher
Jun 6, 2004

You've got to know the rules before you can break 'em. Otherwise, it's no fun.


drrockso20 posted:

Man I really hope they nerf the crap out of the stationary AA guns soon, cause those things are making it impossible to use planes or the blimps if anyone uses them

That's why you have ground teammates to kill them.

FastestGunAlive
Apr 7, 2010

Dancing palm tree.
Lemme just mark this enemy for my team mates to kill and then I will use the chat to let them know I need help

Grizzled Patriarch
Mar 27, 2014

These dentures won't stop me from tearing out jugulars in Thunderdome.



AA guns are strong but they are also super easy to blow up, and in Operations they don't even respawn, and are almost always right out in the open near an objective point which means that if both teams are actually playing the game, nobody gets to sit on one for very long. It's also pretty much a death sentence on a lot of maps because there really isn't a juicier target for lovely wookies than some guy standing completely immobile and mostly defenseless in the open. Though it probably makes them really, really mad when you see one trying to set up on a nearby hill and light them up with flak.

Also planes can just fly straight up and out of their range completely, and if you are flying at a decent speed it's pretty easy to fly up and turn around since the AA gun's effective range really isn't as far as it seems (I mean it's still pretty far, but it's not reaching across the map like a lot of people seem to think).

Honestly I almost never even see anyone using them unless there's a blimp floating around.

edit: That said I think they could probably tone down the screen-shake stuff, because the biggest problem is actually figuring out where the flak is coming from when it starts hitting you, and it makes it very hard to maneuver. Most people will just continue flying directly into the path of the flak or even toward the AA gun. The damage feels fine and you can always tell a good pilot because it's drat near impossible to kill them with an AA gun unless they were already damaged when they flew into range.

Grizzled Patriarch fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Oct 29, 2016

sbaldrick
Jul 19, 2006
Driven by Hate
I'm getting really tired of medics not medicing,. I'm trying to finish a medal assholea

shut up blegum
Dec 17, 2008


--->Plastic Lawn<---

sbaldrick posted:

I'm getting really tired of medics not medicing,. I'm trying to finish a medal assholea

Speaking of medics, what's the difference between the big medic crate or the little healthpacks?

sunday at work
Apr 6, 2011

"Man is the animal that thinks something is wrong."
AA guns are fun. Finished the fixed weapons medal thus week off a pair of scrubs that would just not give up with the bomber. Just fly low and straight at me again guys, I'm sure it'll work this time.

Parkingtigers
Feb 23, 2008
TARGET CONSUMER
LOVES EVERY FUCKING GAME EVER MADE. EVER.

shut up blegum posted:

Speaking of medics, what's the difference between the big medic crate or the little healthpacks?

Consensus from the main BF1 thread is the packs are better. Instant ammo/health refills, whereas the crates require people to linger for ages as it heals/resupplies much much slower.

Basically use packs.

V for Vegans
Jan 30, 2009
You can toss the crates down at choke points and get all the pubbie heal/resupply points you want though which is nice, especially if you find a nice group of teammates just waiting at a choke point.

mellowjournalism
Jul 31, 2004

helllooo

Tei posted:

there was a squad of enemy players on top of me, tryiing to block my vision (they probably already wasted all the antivehicle ammo) that tricked my funny, so I took the role to taxi them around the map to kill friendly players.

I realize most people are concerned with leveling up and unlocking thangs and having the best killing and deathing ratio but to me this poo poo is why I bought the game. Good god everything looks so hilarious when the ragdolls and graphics are this good. And of course also when they are looking bad

drrockso20 posted:

Man I really hope they nerf the crap out of the stationary AA guns soon, cause those things are making it impossible to use planes or the blimps if anyone uses them

I feel the same way until I get shot down by another pilot and parachute land right next to an AA gun, so, don't nerf

Parkingtigers
Feb 23, 2008
TARGET CONSUMER
LOVES EVERY FUCKING GAME EVER MADE. EVER.

V for Vegans posted:

You can toss the crates down at choke points and get all the pubbie heal/resupply points you want though which is nice, especially if you find a nice group of teammates just waiting at a choke point.

The ammo pouch refills their ammo instantly though, and the grenades after a few seconds. The crate needs them to sit on it for ages to get more 'nades.

mellowjournalism
Jul 31, 2004

helllooo
It is taking far too long to sift through the PC thread's wailing over video cards. When did calvary stop being able to heal/resupply on horseback? This is a great but frustratingly silent change unless i am crazy

Mycroft Holmes
Mar 26, 2010

by Azathoth
Want to play with people with mics and brains. My PSN is fiftycthulhu.

Grizzled Patriarch
Mar 27, 2014

These dentures won't stop me from tearing out jugulars in Thunderdome.



mellowjournalism posted:

It is taking far too long to sift through the PC thread's wailing over video cards. When did calvary stop being able to heal/resupply on horseback? This is a great but frustratingly silent change unless i am crazy

You can still do it with the left and right d-pad (on PS4, no idea on PC - whatever you guys use for the smoke and emergency repair on tanks) but it recharges way more slowly than it did in the Beta. I'm also not sure if you can do it if you just get on a random horse or if you need to spawn as cavalry. Cavalry in general got nerfed in some weird ways. Less health, slower resupplies / healing, and the rifle is less accurate / damaging.

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


drrockso20 posted:

Man I really hope they nerf the crap out of the stationary AA guns soon, cause those things are making it impossible to use planes or the blimps if anyone uses them

gently caress you, AA guns are awesome and as long as there are planes to shoot down with them, I'll take every opportunity to do so.

humpthewind
Jan 8, 2007

Noblest of all dogs is the hot-dog; it feeds the hand that bites it.

Finger Prince posted:

gently caress you, AA guns are awesome and as long as there are planes to shoot down with them, I'll take every opportunity to do so.

Hell yeah. Even if you don't finish the plane off damaging wings and the plane is mad points

Skater h8er
May 11, 2013
So did the servers poo poo the bed? Can't seem to connect to them now

PyrE
Feb 2, 2005

Soldier? Check.
Flight? True.
Commie? NO!
Rich? Quite.

Skater h8er posted:

So did the servers poo poo the bed? Can't seem to connect to them now

Same here

Jewce
Mar 11, 2008
Hey, I just browsed super quick and couldn't find the goon ps4 community. The one in the OP is not coming up.

Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.

Does anyone on xbone use the slack channel to goon up and do fun poo poo in this game?

sbaldrick
Jul 19, 2006
Driven by Hate
the servers making GBS threads the bed have caused some weird and fun issues when I could connect.

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Tei
Feb 19, 2011

Finger Prince posted:

gently caress you, AA guns are awesome and as long as there are planes to shoot down with them, I'll take every opportunity to do so.

Is imposible to balance air combat in a BF game.

In theory you put tools in the hand of infantry of equal power the power of air combat. But the power of air combat scale with the skill of the pilots (like.. a average pilot can't kill infantry with the machine gun, but a ace pilot does). The skill ceiling for air combat is so high (hehe), that ace pilots are several orders of magnitude better than normal pilots.

So they have created a static exclusion area by adding a antiair weapon to many bases. These weapons are exposed in flags in the center of the map, and with better anti-sniper protection in bases.

I suggest this changes:

- Make the anti-air bullets have a trail effect, making it more obvious "here, kill this rear end in a top hat" for snipers. This is a team game.
- Make the efective area of these weapons 15% smaller.
- Make airships take more damage from light guns.
- Make so pilots take damage when their plane is shot with light guns.

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