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Guy Goodbody posted:I'm just figuring out what I'd need to get started doing modeling. I have no idea what army I'd start with, I'd like so many of them I probably won't know until I go to the store and let a moment's whimsy guide my hand Know that feeling dude, my Tau/Harlequins were the result of me staring at the 40k wall too long with a student grant burning in my pocket. Out of curiousity, what armies if any have taken your fancy in particular?
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Guy Goodbody posted:I'm just figuring out what I'd need to get started doing modeling. I have no idea what army I'd start with, I'd like so many of them I probably won't know until I go to the store and let a moment's whimsy guide my hand Well you're in the right place if you have any questions about playstyles  Also check out the Painting Thread, the OP is full of good info and the regulars there are more than happy to share tips and help.
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Guy Goodbody posted:What do I actually need to assemble some Warhammer 40k models? Can I get away with just nippers, exacto knife and plastic cement? I don't actually need a dedicated mold line tool, I can just do the mold lines with an exacto knife, right? Assembly is easy. You want some flush clippers, an x-acto, plastic glue and superglue. That's it. Painting is much harder and having good tools for painting REALLY helps. Assembly though is easy and you can do it well with whatever's in your garage. Dedicated mold line tool is definitely not required by any means. I even have one and prefer an x-acto in almost all cases. Guy Goodbody posted:I'm just figuring out what I'd need to get started doing modeling. I have no idea what army I'd start with, I'd like so many of them I probably won't know until I go to the store and let a moment's whimsy guide my hand One of us! One of us! Gooble gobble gooble gobble.
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Guy Goodbody posted:What do I actually need to assemble some Warhammer 40k models? Can I get away with just nippers, exacto knife and plastic cement? I don't actually need a dedicated mold line tool, I can just do the mold lines with an exacto knife, right? Use the back side of the exacto for mold lines. Also get one of these guys http://m.harborfreight.com/jumbo-helping-hands-with-led-lights-65779.html
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mango sentinel posted:Use the back side of the exacto for mold lines. I use the front side myself, just really gingerly.
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SteelMentor posted:Know that feeling dude, my Tau/Harlequins were the result of me staring at the 40k wall too long with a student grant burning in my pocket. I like Space Marines(Black Templars or Blood Angels) and Chaos Space Marines(pretty much any of them except Word Bearers). or Sisters, but those probably aren't happening very soon. ijyt posted:Well you're in the right place if you have any questions about playstyles thanks for the link. I'm gonna pick an army based purely on fluff and aesthetic appeal, because I know I'm gonna spend way more time building and painting the models than actually playing with them.
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For painting 101 when you get to it Guy Goodbody: get a magnifying glass / lamp combo. Really helps. get some kinda hand-held block of something. Some people use bits of wood, I use a really tiny tupperware container. Something you can stick a model to so you don't hold the model by its base, which is flimsy. Something big and meaty you can wrap your hand around, so you aren't using your finger muscles but instead your wrist muscles to hold it. Much more stable. Get some solid brushes, in particular a nice medium size brush and a good fine detail brush. The others are more optional. If you try to use one brush to do everything you'll either glob paint on the details or you'll have too small a brush for big surfaces and you'll rush and end up globbing. Gotta use the right size tool for the job at hand. Get either some primer spray paint or an airbrush. Airbrush is expensive and requires skillz so probably start with spray can, its easy to use. Coat your models with a nice even layer of primer. (Do it outside and bring some newspaper to put down) Grey plastic doesn't take paint very well. Once you get that layer of primer on there, the paint "sticks" to the model and its MUCH easier. Black is a good base primer color (unless you want really light pastel colors), although you can also try to get colored primer. If you're painting blood angels and you use red primer, you can skip the first basecoat! Get yourself a nice palette. I use a chunk of porcelain that I dip paints on. You MUST water down your paints. NEVER paint directly from pots. It will look bad. Water them down until you get the right consistency. Wet palettes are a better option that require building or buying, but keep you from wasting paint as they dry out. Check out the official GW "how to paint" youtube series which is really, REALLY good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=user?GamesWorkshopWNT
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Guy Goodbody posted:I like Space Marines(Black Templars or Blood Angels) and Chaos Space Marines(pretty much any of them except Word Bearers). or Sisters, but those probably aren't happening very soon. Blood Angels and CSMs, a man after my own heart! I'll give you the heads' up now: CSMs are in a terrible place competitively. Like super bad. The models look amazing though and there's loooots of rumors that CSMs are gonna get a new codex(es) soon, so that could change, but... yeah. Right now SMs are the most popular faction so get a lot more love. The most competitive factions are Tau and Eldar at the moment. Orks and CSMs and Sisters are in the worst spot. Sisters are nearly impossible to field unless you mix them with SMs or Guard, there's just not enough options. There's some cool stuff in there and I love the sisters conceptually. Hopefully the recent sisters of silence models mean they might come back / get updated, but it doesn't look too likely. When I first played I did Blood Angels, and they or the Black Templars would do you pretty good as a starting force. But if you don't care about being competitive CSMs have that wicked metal look 
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Zark the Damned posted:Welp, that didn't take long. Formations for taking Sisters of Silence and Custodes in Battleforged games: https://www.games-workshop.com/reso...DATESISTERRULES
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Nichol posted:I'm DATESISTERRULES.
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Is there any limit on the number of allies I can have? Wondering how much of a disaster it would be as I grow my collection to just field an army of every model I own from like five armies.
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Guy Goodbody posted:What do I actually need to assemble some Warhammer 40k models? Can I get away with just nippers, exacto knife and plastic cement? I don't actually need a dedicated mold line tool, I can just do the mold lines with an exacto knife, right? Clippers, exacto knife, plastic cement...I'd also grab some super glue (I prefer Loctite Gel Control) since it's cheap and sometimes a better alternative to plastic cement. Having a file is nice too, but not strictly necessary.
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mango sentinel posted:Is there any limit on the number of allies I can have? Nope. Only possible disaster is lack of synergy and possible One Eye Open checks.
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Gonna play my first match of GW Kill Team as opposed to HoR Kill Team. Any points of advice from people who've played?
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mango sentinel posted:Is there any limit on the number of allies I can have? More which allies. There's a whole alliance chart, so like eldar and dark eldar are buddy buddy, but if you try to field space marines and chaos space marines, they're basically opposing forces who are choosing to shoot the enemy first; they dont' play nice with each other and cause problems. You have to keep them spread apart, make checks for situations, etc. As for number of allies, that's more about detachments and force organization. If you're playing unbound you just throw whatever you want on there, sure. Can you have unlimited allied detachments? I can't remember if its limited... (although even then you could use other formations) mango sentinel posted:Wondering how much of a disaster it would be as I grow my collection to just field an army of every model I own from like five armies. I'm basically doing that though using kill team rules, collecting 4 different armies. In particular, HoR kill team, which I like better than GW's version. You just need a a few units to make a good Kill Team so its not as expensive as a full 40k army. Then you can play your different kill teams against each other, and if you really like one then you can grow it further into a full army. Depends upon who you have to play with though and what they're into. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Oct 28, 2016 |
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Zaphod42 posted:More which allies. There's a whole alliance chart, so like eldar and dark eldar are buddy buddy, but if you try to field space marines and chaos space marines, they're basically opposing forces who are choosing to shoot the enemy first; they dont' play nice with each other and cause problems. You have to keep them spread apart, make checks for situations, etc. I'm well aware of the ally chart, I was just curious about how many you could run. SM, Tau, Eldar, Ork doesn't seem the most disastrous combo, but my main concern would be fitting people in deployment. I'm not firm on how reserves work but if I can drop pod Marines that might help. Is there an Eldar HQ that lets you formation Wraithguard as Troops?
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Does anyone in this thread play harlequins and could give me some advice? I bought Death Masque and I am looking to make an army around 1500 points. I am wondering if it is necessary to ally Dark Eldar/Eldar? Also how confusing would it be if I keep the Harlequins color scheme with the Allies? Honestly mostly interested in the look of Harlequins, but want to give my friends at least some challenge on the table.
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mango sentinel posted:I'm well aware of the ally chart, I was just curious about how many you could run. Reserves just requires you to hold the unit back in reserves and deploy them later based on rolling for when they show up. Special units with infiltrate or deep strike get to spawn on the board instead of the table edge. Drop pod is the way to go since you get to deep strike but avoid dice roll calamity destroying your unit. Yeah, that could help you keep the SMs seperate from the Orks to avoid the ally restrictions. Or infiltrate would work too, but only some models can do that. (Infiltrate is like deep strike but without rolling for reserves, shows up right away) I'm not positive but one of the Eldar factions has "lots of wraithguards" as their thing, (Iyanden?) so there's gotta be either a rule that lets you take lots of them or formations that just let you take tons of them outside of a CAD. Gotta be something. E: Looks like taking a Spiritseeker HQ does it Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Oct 28, 2016 |
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PantsOptional posted:Gonna play my first match of GW Kill Team as opposed to HoR Kill Team. Any points of advice from people who've played? I've had a lot of luck taking a Razorback and 5 Sternguard. Not many armies bring long range anti tank in 200 points, and those that do seldom bring AP2.
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Oh, I hadn't even thought of that - I have a Razorback turret sitting ready waiting to be painted and popped into a socket. I was going to wait to put Assault Cannons into it but I can just as easily convert that up later. Good call!
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IMPORTANT: Do not give GW money for glue/hobby tools or at all. They're cheaper and better elsewhere.
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I'll ask here since it got glossed over in the painting thread. What do you guys use for palettes? My makeshift wet palette makes my paint maybe too watery. My cheapo plastic circle palette dries paint immediately. What's Duncan using in those tutorial videos? It looks like foam board. PS I am in love with Duncan.
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mango sentinel posted:I'll ask here since it got glossed over in the painting thread. I ended up buying a wet palette because it's easy and cheap. The one Privateer Press makes is nice. Duncan is way too attractive to be working at GW.
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Well, maybe he's just attractive enough.
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mango sentinel posted:I'll ask here since it got glossed over in the painting thread. Ive been using a folded piece of printer paper for eight years.
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mango sentinel posted:I'll ask here since it got glossed over in the painting thread. Dude I totally answered this stuff for the other guy just a sec ago I use a piece of porcelain, works great. Paint doesn't stick at all, just wash it off afterwards. If you really want to get serious, build a wet palette and save money on paints. Duncan's great but he has a tendency to say the exact same lines in each video, probably a requirement from marketing or something, but it gets annoying when you watch a few of them and start to recognize it. "So now we're going to use a wash, which is really runny and will run into all those cracks and give it loads of detail, really make it pop" - can we put that in a painting 101 video and then skip it in the individual model videos? Kthx. Minor complaint though.
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SRM posted:Hey hams, I wanted to introduce my new channel, CAMHAMMER: I just watched one of your vids, good editing, good voiceover! Very chill, would recommend, A++++! Also you know me well. "Chances are, you already have Dawn of War installed, and chances are after this you're going to go play a round of skirmish" Yes sir!
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JesusIsTehCool posted:Does anyone in this thread play harlequins and could give me some advice? Pretty neccessary. Harlies are fun but since they're such a small codex they don't really have the tools to deal with aircraft or heavier vehicles. Consider taking some Craftworld Wraith-stuff to be the anvil to your Clowns' hammer, or Dark Eldar with Dark Lances and Blasters to pop armour. On the second point, paint them whatever crazy way you fancy. Just make sure they look just distinct enough so people can't accuse you of painting for advantage or whatever salty nerd bullshit.
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PierreTheMime posted:Ive been using a folded piece of printer paper for eight years.
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Here's my palette: https://www.amazon.com/Darice-10-We...rcelain+palette $10 Similar porcelain ones on amazon work great and a pretty cheap. Infinitely reusable too. Holds a nice bit of paint, and you can use the little walls of the buckets to kinda work out excess paint in your brush and make sure you get just the right amount. But the real way to go is a wet palette and I really need to make one, I've been too lazy.
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Zaphod42 posted:Dude I totally answered this stuff for the other guy just a sec ago Bob Ross repeated the same poo poo all the time too. You do that because it might be the first episode someone is watching and might not have a clue.
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Star Man posted:Bob Ross repeated the same poo poo all the time too. You do that because it might be the first episode someone is watching and might not have a clue. Yeah, I get that. (Good example) But seems like with the youtube format you could just say "if you haven't before, check out the painting 101 video first, link below"
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah, I get that. (Good example) But seems like with the youtube format you could just say "if you haven't before, check out the painting 101 video first, link below" And that new hobbyist may refer to the old video or not. Or they could get the video link wrong or something. It's easier to just spell it out every time. The only people it annoys are those familiar with the discourse already.
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah, I get that. (Good example) But seems like with the youtube format you could just say "if you haven't before, check out the painting 101 video first, link below"
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Uroboros posted:Tough choices now. I didn't realize Raptors got army wide scout which is half the reason to go White Scars with the Khan. Unfortunately I can't take the Hunter's Eye if he is my warlord, which is largely the point. I could see why mixing in a conclave with a SnP Devastator squad could be pretty drat nasty. Fliers actually do something. I really hate the AA formation. It does so little in most matchups and can super be played around. I'd take scouts before them, no question. Losing the eye sucks but an auspex makes up quite a bit of ground. And Ultras give you nothing but doctrines. Scout super makes the BC. the deployment options matter so much.
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I'd love to have a button that blares "THIN YOUR GODDAMN PAINTS" on a continuous loop while I'm giving painting lessons/advice. You'd think years of memes and common wisdom would drill this into people, but you'll see people who've been in the hobby for years who never seem to learn such a basic thing like that. Or stuff like priming models, or cleaning brushes, or...
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I've been painting for decades, but I still appreciate every time the GW painting guide on YouTube gently reminds me to use two thin coats for coverage.
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Naramyth posted:Fliers actually do something. I really hate the AA formation. It does so little in most matchups and can super be played around. I'd take scouts before them, no question. Losing the eye sucks but an auspex makes up quite a bit of ground. Yeah, but if I'm sticking a Conclave in the pod with the glorious Captain then that means one Librarian is going to have to ride in another drop pod to stay close if I want that sweat 2+ warp charge. Also Ultramarines with Tiggy greatly increases my odds of getting a useful power, and his refoll reserves ability makes that Stormwing much more likely to arrive on my terms, as well as any other pods.
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moths posted:I've been painting for decades, but I still appreciate every time the GW painting guide on YouTube gently reminds me to use two thin coats for coverage. Duncan turning into a meme is one of the best things around 40k currently thin your paints everyone 
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