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quote:The X question, which is our engineering design interview, was the one our team thought did not go well. The main feedback from some pompous dickhead and lady who said nothing was that you struggled with implementing a relational database and general design understanding was below what we expect for someone coming in with your level of experience. Hey, maybe if you had read my resume you would have seen that I literally haven't touched a relational database since coming out of school!
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Management at the company I work for is planning to introduce 360-degree reviews. Myself and several of my colleagues are deeply unhappy with this idea, because we feel like it will undermine our present culture of collaboration and replace it with one of suspicion. Is this worth fighting a political battle over or is it wiser to just cut my losses and  out?
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Oct 29, 2016 05:22
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fantastic in plastic posted:Management at the company I work for is planning to introduce 360-degree reviews. Myself and several of my colleagues are deeply unhappy with this idea, because we feel like it will undermine our present culture of collaboration and replace it with one of suspicion. Are the political battles ever worth fighting? You're not going to change senior management's mind.
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Oct 29, 2016 05:35
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fantastic in plastic posted:Management at the company I work for is planning to introduce 360-degree reviews. Myself and several of my colleagues are deeply unhappy with this idea, because we feel like it will undermine our present culture of collaboration and replace it with one of suspicion. Upwards reviews or bust. If perf reviews are going to happen, then for it to be fair your boss can't be sole arbiter of your feedback, so you need peer feedback. And your boss needs to be accountable to your skip-level, so fiefdoms can be nipped in the bud.
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Oct 29, 2016 08:54
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Yeah I'm surprised you're upset by 360-degree reviews. They tend to unearth favoritism and communication issues way better than your standard top-down review process.
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Oct 29, 2016 15:41
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When people talk about 360 reviews what's the correct interpretation/assumption about how it is implemented? My subordinates, lateral peers, and superiors all review me and I only see the aggregated/semi-anonymous result and my boss sees the same? My boss sees all individual items of feedback and from whom? I ask because it seems to vary a lot and some designs seem more obviously a waste of time.
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Oct 29, 2016 17:16
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I don't hate the idea of 360 reviews on principle, but in this particular case my worry is that they're going to be designed & implemented as anonymous backbiting performance reviews rather than a tool to unearth favoritism or communication issues. My company isn't bad, on balance, but one of senior management's negative traits is passive aggression, and my spider sense is that this initiative is going to feed that.
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Oct 29, 2016 20:50
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fantastic in plastic posted:Management at the company I work for is planning to introduce 360-degree reviews. Myself and several of my colleagues are deeply unhappy with this idea, because we feel like it will undermine our present culture of collaboration and replace it with one of suspicion. fantastic in plastic posted:I don't hate the idea of 360 reviews on principle, but in this particular case my worry is that they're going to be designed & implemented as anonymous backbiting performance reviews rather than a tool to unearth favoritism or communication issues. My company isn't bad, on balance, but one of senior management's negative traits is passive aggression, and my spider sense is that this initiative is going to feed that. It sounds to me like there is already a culture of suspicion
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Oct 29, 2016 23:31
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Is not getting any sort of career advancement/mentorship/working on anything remotely stimulating (or anything at all really)/sitting there while your brain rots/on a team that's already overstaffed that just hired another senior developer a valid reason for leaving that future employers would find "Acceptable"? Cause I'm really close.
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Oct 31, 2016 15:10
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Good Will Hrunting posted:Is not getting any sort of career advancement/mentorship/working on anything remotely stimulating (or anything at all really)/sitting there while your brain rots/on a team that's already overstaffed that just hired another senior developer a valid reason for leaving that future employers would find "Acceptable"? Cause I'm really close. Yes? As long as you don't have a track record of jetting out of multiple jobs after less than a year, you should be fine.
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Oct 31, 2016 15:11
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Good Will Hrunting posted:Is not getting any sort of career advancement/mentorship/working on anything remotely stimulating (or anything at all really)/sitting there while your brain rots/on a team that's already overstaffed that just hired another senior developer a valid reason for leaving that future employers would find "Acceptable"? Cause I'm really close. Yes, but it would be a good idea to be sure you can explain some ways you've tried to fix your own situation.
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Oct 31, 2016 15:24
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feedmegin posted:Yes? As long as you don't have a track record of jetting out of multiple jobs after less than a year, you should be fine. I've been here for 32+ months. I was at my job before that for 8 months but it was a consulting gig and about 18 months at my job before that. I should be okay right? I have been trying to fix things for a while, I have expressed my problems, and could easily qualify all the things I've done if asked.
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Oct 31, 2016 15:25
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That means you're "looking for more technical challenges and opportunities to grow" or something
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Oct 31, 2016 15:47
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Good Will Hrunting posted:I've been here for 32+ months. I was at my job before that for 8 months but it was a consulting gig and about 18 months at my job before that. I should be okay right? That sounds fine. My last 3 jobs have been all ~1yr each, and no one batted an eye each time. Almost at 2 years current job, something must be up...
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Oct 31, 2016 16:38
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Good Will Hrunting posted:Is not getting any sort of career advancement/mentorship/working on anything remotely stimulating (or anything at all really)/sitting there while your brain rots/on a team that's already overstaffed that just hired another senior developer a valid reason for leaving that future employers would find "Acceptable"? Cause I'm really close. To wit, "overstaffed" means "confident I can move on to better things without leaving the team in a lurch", "avoid brain rot" means "eager for new areas & challenges to explore now that I have a solid grounding in one core competency".
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Oct 31, 2016 17:51
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I have been completely sugar-coated with my reasoning thus far and probably came off too positive about my current job. I haven't said anything even remotely negative, and I actually think that's hurting me since, as a junior developer, I am not/was not getting work that afforded me the opportunity to advance or any sort of real mentorship at all. I've had three final-round interviews now where the feedback I received is that I was sharp in the coding tests and problem solving algorithmic stuff, but that my overall experience was lacking for someone with 2.5 years of experience when it came to design-type questions and discussions. This isn't just my take either: my old manager, who was one of the best engineers on the team, left after less than a year because of how poor he thought the company was. He came from a solid engineering company and went to an even better one, and his advice to me is that I'll never grow here due to a combination of how poor management and the infrastructure are. That said I should have qualified in my original post that I meant leaving my current job to look for new work full-time, because this place is really taking a toll on me and I'm reaching the point where I can't call in sick anymore to do phone screens and interviews. My direct manager is a Kool-Aid drinking company-person who thinks we can do no wrong so talking to her is useless and management above her is so far detached from the engineering team that they have absolutely no idea what goes on on a daily basis. We're so laughably overstaffed that my team of three just slacks off constantly - we have all tried having discussions with management about this to no avail.
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Oct 31, 2016 18:22
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If you have time to slack then isn't that just time to decide what you feel like working on and actually find a hifh-impact problem to own and solve?
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Oct 31, 2016 18:51
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oliveoil posted:If you have time to slack then isn't that just time to decide what you feel like working on and actually find a hifh-impact problem to own and solve? At most places, those ambiguous, high-impact problems require buyoff and support from other engineers, management, IT, QA, the customer, etc. There are few non-trivial problems that you can just show up with some code after going dark for a week and say, "look, I solved this issue we were having!" If management is not predisposed to invest in your good ideas, as it sounds like is the case for Good Will Hrunting, time is not the only barrier.
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Oct 31, 2016 19:08
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After 2 quarters of bullshit fluff in an attempt to make her look better, I've managed to convince my manager to let me do Odersky's Scala course as one of my career development goals, so I've been doing some of that during the work day downtime.
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Oct 31, 2016 19:29
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I would recommend going through those lectures faster by speeding up Odersky's speech 50%. I've seen how he talks at conferences and I think he slowed himself down a lot for the course. I'm not sure how those specific courses would help career development goals benefitting the company unless you're able to apply them to something at work. You could try to do a number of the exercises in Java 8 perhaps, but that might just frustrate you more than educate you (a singleton object is still not a keyword in Java despite how common the design pattern is).
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Oct 31, 2016 20:51
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necrobobsledder posted:career development goals benefitting the company We use Spark heavily (not my team - we own a few notebooks though not many) but after my posts do you honestly think I'm interested in benefiting the company at this point?
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Oct 31, 2016 21:07
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Good Will Hrunting posted:We use Spark heavily (not my team - we own a few notebooks though not many) but after my posts do you honestly think I'm interested in benefiting the company at this point? Pick something to train in that your company uses and that you' re interested in. The point is to improve your skills, first and foremost. You should never be just slacking off at work for any substantial period of time.
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Oct 31, 2016 21:12
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Pick something to train in that your company uses and that you' re interested in. The point is to improve your skills, first and foremost. You should never be just slacking off at work for any substantial period of time. I mean, it seems like he's just trying to improve his skills in a way that is interesting to him rather than the company because he has checked out at this point. Which I think is fair v0v.
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Oct 31, 2016 21:42
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I'm the only person on my sub-team that can change our Spark job(s) that run on a daily basis that another team wrote for us last year, so I am helping a little bit folks give me some credit! Also I've liked the Scala I've done and want to transition into more stuff similar to that so yes.
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Oct 31, 2016 21:58
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The March Hare posted:I mean, it seems like he's just trying to improve his skills in a way that is interesting to him rather than the company because he has checked out at this point. Which I think is fair v0v. Right, the point with "things the company uses" is not so much because you really want to benefit the company, so much as it is to give you a fig leaf if the company demands to know what you've been doing with your time.
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So it's looking like I'm getting a promotion to management in the next few weeks. This is something I've wanted for awhile, but there's a catch. I hate my job. The exact reasons don't matter but suffice to say it's detrimental to my home life and I'm 100% burnt out. I've been planning on leaving as close to the one year-mark (Jan 1) as possible. Obviously being a manager has some benefits, but how long should I stick around? I can't say no without looking like I'm already out the door, so I'm wondering what you guys think is the shortest reasonable period for me to stay and still get some benefit on my resumé.
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in_cahoots posted:So it's looking like I'm getting a promotion to management in the next few weeks. This is something I've wanted for awhile, but there's a catch. I hate my job. The exact reasons don't matter but suffice to say it's detrimental to my home life and I'm 100% burnt out. I've been planning on leaving as close to the one year-mark (Jan 1) as possible. My rule is generally one year per promotion or team change but I'm conservative. I've also gotten 4 promotions out of my current job though. Team lead to Director over all tech for the location.
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Nov 1, 2016 06:46
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 I changed my favorite tags on Stack Overflow from Ruby and Rails to PHP and DB2. Not doing web development on a Mac but business CRUD on a Dell with Windows and talking to an AS/400. I feel old and empty.
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in_cahoots posted:So it's looking like I'm getting a promotion to management in the next few weeks. This is something I've wanted for awhile, but there's a catch. I hate my job. The exact reasons don't matter but suffice to say it's detrimental to my home life and I'm 100% burnt out. I've been planning on leaving as close to the one year-mark (Jan 1) as possible. If you can leave, do. Life is too short for spending 40h/week (or more) at something you "hate".
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My parents are skeptical of my job (which has improved quite a bit recently!) and are starting to not-so-subtly push me into going back to school/the military via getting an infosec job (long story). My impression of infosec as a field and industry is kinda negative. Really, the only reason it's being suggested is "people are getting hacked lots!" therefore job security, but that says to me to avoid the field instead of getting into it. Am I correct in my impression of it? Given the infosec thread in SH/SC and all the insanity over it in the news, I'm kinda put off by the prospect.
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As a veteran I would highly discourage you from trying that approach. There are way to many variables you have no control over once you get into that system. You could sprain your ankle in basic training get held back a week and lose a contract guaranteed slot and end up changing tires on Humvees for a few years. Military works best for people who are flexible in what they want in their career goals especially early on. Military also contracts out most of the really interesting stuff anyways. That side is where you want to be if you are interested in that type of work. In my experience though there are some areas of info-sec that are probably really toxic my limited exposure to it in the Nova/D.C. area as a sample size. Way better ways to get into it if you are interested in it. I would look at companies with strong engineering cultures with diverse teams with known strong in house info-sec i think Etsy strongly enough is one example.
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Oh, no, the military thing is plain not happening. The core of this is my parents being antsy over my own future, and that's their problem, not mine. I'm more asking how infosec is as an industry/field, since there's been lots of hubbub about it recently. I don't know enough about the field to debate it with my parents (again, long story).
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Nov 1, 2016 19:54
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Skandranon posted:If you can leave, do. Life is too short for spending 40h/week (or more) at something you "hate". Or take a couple of weeks off and see if that helps the burn out. If it actually makes it worse, you know it's time to move on.
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Pollyanna posted:Oh, no, the military thing is plain not happening. The core of this is my parents being antsy over my own future, and that's their problem, not mine. I'm more asking how infosec is as an industry/field, since there's been lots of hubbub about it recently. I don't know enough about the field to debate it with my parents (again, long story). Infosec is a lot like general IT. If nothing bad happens, at best no once notices you and at worst, you get viewed as a parasitic cost center that needs pruning. If something bad does happen, you hosed up and you suck, and need to be outsourced.
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Nov 1, 2016 21:06
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Skandranon posted:Infosec is a lot like general IT. If nothing bad happens, at best no once notices you and at worst, you get viewed as a parasitic cost center that needs pruning. If something bad does happen, you hosed up and you suck, and need to be outsourced.
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Pollyanna posted:My parents are skeptical of my job (which has improved quite a bit recently!) and are starting to not-so-subtly push me into going back to school/the military via getting an infosec job (long story). My impression of infosec as a field and industry is kinda negative. Really, the only reason it's being suggested is "people are getting hacked lots!" therefore job security, but that says to me to avoid the field instead of getting into it. I think infosec is cool and fun as a concept, ie breaking things for fun and profit, but from the outside the industry itself looks kind of bro-y and insular. Also there's a fuckton of snakeoil still floating around in it. Having read both, I'd say check out the secfuck thread in YOSPOS over the SH/SC thread because it can eject people with aggressively bad opinions easier/faster.
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Pollyanna posted:My parents are skeptical of my job (which has improved quite a bit recently!) and are starting to not-so-subtly push me into going back to school/the military via getting an infosec job (long story). My impression of infosec as a field and industry is kinda negative. Really, the only reason it's being suggested is "people are getting hacked lots!" therefore job security, but that says to me to avoid the field instead of getting into it. If you don't want to work in infosec please don't work in infosec. The increased focus on the field because of all the recent "cyber" stories has increased the number of lovely candidates I have to filter out enough already. Especially since infosec is a really nondescript term including everything from development work to ITish software/hardware management to penetration tests and code audits to research into complex mathematics. "Getting an infosec job" is only slightly less nonsensical a phrase than "getting a computers job".
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Nov 1, 2016 23:49
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Pollyanna posted:My parents are skeptical of my job (which has improved quite a bit recently!) and are starting to not-so-subtly push me into going back to school/the military via getting an infosec job (long story). My impression of infosec as a field and industry is kinda negative. Really, the only reason it's being suggested is "people are getting hacked lots!" therefore job security, but that says to me to avoid the field instead of getting into it. Infosec is a lot like working QA in that you write a bunch of documentation and get blamed for things out of your control. Infosec is like games programming in that it's clouded with talented autists willing to work for next to nothing. There also just aren't that many jobs compared with more general it and software roles. You can fall into infosec roles if you know someone (that's how I got into data forensics before becoming a software developer, just my dad knowing a guy) but putting buttons on Web pages beats the he'll out of running encase and cataloging all the child porn on hard drives, believe me.
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Pollyanna posted:My parents are skeptical of my job (which has improved quite a bit recently!) and are starting to not-so-subtly push me into going back to school/the military via getting an infosec job (long story). You should go ahead and not take your parents' advice at all, ever, if they are seriously telling you to do this.
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Guy I went to school with went to the navy and got a security clearance and makes 85k resetting passwords (at a private co) and he can't even install Linux he's that dumb
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