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Pron on VHS: Nov 14, 2005; Blood Clots
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How did the MiB do the blood transfusion, did Teddy just drink it..does that work

# ? Nov 1, 2016 03:58

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 03:58

Phi230: Feb 2, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

Gynecolojustice posted:

How did the MiB do the blood transfusion, did Teddy just drink it..does that work

watch it again and look at Teddy's right arm

# ? Nov 1, 2016 03:58

Pharmaskittle: Dec 17, 2007; arf arf put the money in the fuckin bag

The brain/maze thing is the first theory I've read that I don't think is stupid. Good job.

# ? Nov 1, 2016 03:59

Zaphod42: Sep 13, 2012; If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

mikeraskol posted:

So I finally caught the episode and I haven't caught up on this thread, but the most recent episode basically confirms that MiB is one of Logan or William right?

I'm a little annoyed and disappointed by this - it just feels so lazy and inconsistent.

We've been arguing this for pages. :doh:

I don't see how it confirms it at all.

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:03

Abner Assington: Mar 13, 2005; For I am a sinner in the hands of an angry god. Bloody Mary, full of vodka, blessed are you among cocktails. Pray for me now, at the hour of my death, which I hope is soon.

Amen.

Also forgot the (potential) significance of Hopkins' character's name being Robert Ford. Some good thinkin' there, guy.

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:04

Josh Lyman: May 24, 2009

How do we interpret Dolores saying "I told him nothing" into the darkness after Ford leaves their interview session?

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:05

Pron on VHS: Nov 14, 2005; Blood Clots
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The orgy scene this week reminded me of Spartacus. Ahh, when shows were more fun and less twisty

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:05

Zaphod42: Sep 13, 2012; If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Josh Lyman posted:

How do we interpret Dolores saying "I told him nothing" into the darkness after Ford leaves their interview session?

She's talking to the voice, as many of the hosts have been. Its part of the whole bicameral awareness thing, and how she was able to fire the gun.

The question is, is the voice her own sub-conscious, or is the voice Arnold?

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:06

Law Cheetah: Mar 3, 2012

Josh Lyman posted:

How do we interpret Dolores saying "I told him nothing" into the darkness after Ford leaves their interview session?

i think arnold left some kinda ghost of himself inside of his robots and dolores talks to him

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:06

mikeraskol: May 3, 2006; Oh yeah. I was killing you.

Zaphod42 posted:

We've been arguing this for pages.

I don't see how it confirms it at all.

I guess I placed a ton of importance on Logan/William talking about the park being in dire straits and potentially saving it, and then MiB later saying that he saved the park. Plus I don't get why you keep him nameless unless that's going to be important for some reason later, and I can't think of any other reason it would be important unless Ford was gonna go "have a good night Mr. President" after their convo.

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:06

Phi230: Feb 2, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

one interesting thing I just thought of

Dualism is based upon the idea that cognition and mental processes work independent from the physical body or at least they are not the same. Mind =!= body. Arnold disconnected from body in "the maze" as a ghost in the machine? The dormant subconscious of the hosts being disconnected from their bodies maybe?

Maybe the theme of Bicameralism/Dualism is prevalent here in ways that we haven't talked about.

Yeah so somebody who knows more than I do take that fact and apply it because I feel like I have some kind of philosophical analysis on the tip of my tongue here.

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:08

Josh Lyman: May 24, 2009

Westworld is just the visual representation of how the AI from Person of Interest gained sentience.

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:10

Phi230: Feb 2, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

Josh Lyman posted:

How do we interpret Dolores saying "I told him nothing" into the darkness after Ford leaves their interview session?

I think the Bicameralism may be more ham fisted than we realize. I don't think she's literally talking to Arnold. I think Arnold programmed into them the Bicameral Mind, and thus as the hosts gain awareness they are perceiving their own internal monologue - their own, original thoughts and ideas, as a god like otherworldly voice.

She is talking to herself, but in a way, she's talking to Arnold.

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:10

Gonz: Dec 22, 2009; "Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

Clint Howard will play Robot Arnold.

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:13

Phi230: Feb 2, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

Gonz posted:

Clint Howard will play Robot Arnold.

this is what googling robot arnold gives me

the maze goes deeper

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:14

Codependent Poster: Oct 20, 2003

mikeraskol posted:

I guess I placed a ton of importance on Logan/William talking about the park being in dire straits and potentially saving it, and then MiB later saying that he saved the park. Plus I don't get why you keep him nameless unless that's going to be important for some reason later, and I can't think of any other reason it would be important unless Ford was gonna go "have a good night Mr. President" after their convo.

Because he is the Man in Black in Westworld. That is the character he created for himself. They didn't name Yul Brenner's character who he is based off of, so he doesn't have one here.

Can't wait for next week to put that theory to bed.

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:14

Gonz: Dec 22, 2009; "Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

Phi230 posted:

the maze goes deeper

GYEAHHHHHHH GET TO DA MAAAAZE

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:16

Law Cheetah: Mar 3, 2012

is westworld 1973 canon

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:18

Avril Lavigne: May 29, 2006

Has anyone noticed/mentioned that the Weeks Ahead preview showed the Man in Black talking to Dolores who is wearing the new outfit she just picked up from being with William & Logan?

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:23

Josh Lyman: May 24, 2009

Maeve = Ma Eve

She will usher in the robot awakening and rebellion

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:23

JossiRossi: Jul 28, 2008; A little EQ, a touch of reverb, slap on some compression and there. That'll get your dickbutt jiggling.

Law Cheetah posted:

is westworld 1973 canon

Not exactly, they may make reference to it now and then though. And it is possible the accident 34 years ago may share some characteristics (or it may not), but the show does not flow from the movie.

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:24

forgotten image: Jan 16, 2008; If you're going to secretly goonfuck, going to the worst pubbie guild in the galaxy isn't the brightest idea.

It was only a matter of time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aHGm5NxaJU

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:31

coyo7e: Aug 23, 2007; by zen death robot

ryan_woody posted:

It was "Something I Can Never Have", specifically the piano arrangement off of the album "Still". The song was previously released on Pretty Hate Machine, though I prefer the stripped down version on "Still".

Also this song was used in Natural Born Killers, which lends a whole lot to what was going down there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgL7JipWiss

coyo7e fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Nov 1, 2016

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:42

coyo7e: Aug 23, 2007; by zen death robot

Phi230 posted:

As far as I can tell:

William is Virgil, guiding Dolores through the circles of hell.

Sweetwater is the first level, or the level of the sad pagans.

Pariah is the 2nd level, lust obviously.

Also anybody notice how OBVIOUS the maze is?

ITS A FUCKIN BRAIN

ARNOLD IS THE MAN IN THE MAZE

ARNOLD IS THE GHOST IN THE MACHINE

GET IT?

GOT IT?

GOOD.

Also The Ghost In The Machine is a concept that describes Dualism. The Bicameral Mind is similar to Dualism.

You know the thing I've never heard anyone mention is how the maze only leads directly toward the center - everything else is entirely out of the loop

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:44

Phi230: Feb 2, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

coyo7e posted:

You know the thing I've never heard anyone mention is how the maze only leads directly toward the center - everything else is entirely out of the loop

destination: consciousness

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:46

Lord Waffle Beard: Dec 7, 2013

Pharmaskittle posted:

The brain/maze thing is the first theory I've read that I don't think is stupid. Good job.

Idiot

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:46

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
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coyo7e posted:

You know the thing I've never heard anyone mention is how the maze only leads directly toward the center - everything else is entirely out of the loop

Or leads directly out of the maze.

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:47

Gonz: Dec 22, 2009; "Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

Where will you be when the robot robo-lution starts?

Me? I''lll probably be at a BevMo or Total Wine, getting obliterated.

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:48

ded: Oct 27, 2005; Kooler than Jesus

This show has more boobs and dicks than Spartacus. Amazing.

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:49

Gonz: Dec 22, 2009; "Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

ded posted:

This show has more boobs and dicks than Spartacus. Amazing.

Thandie Newton is a purdy lady. Same goes for Evan Rachel Wood.

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:50

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ded posted:

This show has more boobs and dicks than Spartacus. Amazing.

It has like a fraction of the tits and dicks Spartacus had, though. Spartacus had them every episode.

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:50

Phi230: Feb 2, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

ded posted:

This show has more boobs and dicks than Spartacus. Amazing.

i even saw a vagoo maybe during the orgy which was like whoah for TV

But yeah Eyes Wide Shut p much

# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:50

coyo7e: Aug 23, 2007; by zen death robot

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Or leads directly out of the maze.

to be fair the only way out of the labyrinth is to fly away anyway - unless you enter it from outside to begin with or don't build it up around yourself

ded posted:

This show has more boobs and dicks than Spartacus. Amazing.

Yeah that brothel scene really felt like a literal glove thrown down at Spartacus' orgies.

coyo7e fucked around with this message at 05:04 on Nov 1, 2016

# ? Nov 1, 2016 05:00

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VendaGoat posted:

I still wonder how many employees from Time Warner are watching this thread.

They all left after the second gun derail.

# ? Nov 1, 2016 05:01

coyo7e: Aug 23, 2007; by zen death robot

Gonz posted:

Thandie Newton is a purdy lady. Same goes for Evan Rachel Wood.

I started watching Guy Ritchie's RocknRolla again earlier on a lark becaquse of some post I made somewhere else about Toby Kebbell.. And in the first like 3 minutes I was like :aaaaa:

Thandie Newton was in this too and I forgot!?

# ? Nov 1, 2016 05:02

Bloody Hedgehog: Dec 12, 2003; 💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

I like Thandie Newton, but she was in W playing Condoleezza Rice, and it was just the worst performance.

# ? Nov 1, 2016 05:05

JossiRossi: Jul 28, 2008; A little EQ, a touch of reverb, slap on some compression and there. That'll get your dickbutt jiggling.

I really like the theory that Maeve was getting herself killed and just listening in on the tech's discussions as a way to figure out what was going on. Like how she learned Felix's name. Also, Felix getting super freaked out at seeing Maeve like 4 times in a single day.

# ? Nov 1, 2016 05:09

whalestory: Feb 9, 2004; hey ya'll!; Pillbug

I hope no one kills Felix

# ? Nov 1, 2016 05:16

Junkfist: Oct 7, 2004; FRIEND?

I hope everyone kills Sylvester.

Like the entire cast just does a Murder on the Orient Express.

We have traincars and everything.

# ? Nov 1, 2016 05:26

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 03:58

Arglebargle III: Feb 21, 2006

Phi230 posted:

I think the Bicameralism may be more ham fisted than we realize. I don't think she's literally talking to Arnold. I think Arnold programmed into them the Bicameral Mind, and thus as the hosts gain awareness they are perceiving their own internal monologue - their own, original thoughts and ideas, as a god like otherworldly voice.

She is talking to herself, but in a way, she's talking to Arnold.

Yeah I think this is it because I am sick and tired of cartesian dualisms and ghosts in machines.

# ? Nov 1, 2016 05:27

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