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VitalSigns posted:I like the inability to connect "well Green Party doesn't want to ignore constituents who feeeeel that [insert anti-vax/Jews did 9-11/killer wifi beams/Assad did nothing wrong here]" with the Green Party's devastating unpopularity with 99% of the public. Right? How loving hard was it that the best vice president they could find was a raging antisemitie?
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Schizotek posted:YOU POSTED THE WRONG ONE JACKASS And this thread is off to a great start with this pair of amazing posts.
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So close yet so far away to November 8thMixodorian posted:Alright. I missed out on changing equipment reporting standards. The rest are just vague platitudes to my eyes. What will be the extent of the DOJ's involvement into civil rights cases? If a black man gets killed and had a legal gun like we've seen, will that be considered for federal investigation? Hillary's plans and ideas are pretty much exactly in line with what Campaign Zero wants though? If you think they are platitudes that's like fine, as that's probably just how you feel. But I'm sorry that she didn't ever specifically name drop them.
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7 more days to being free of The Orange Man. I lurk this thread pretty frequently, and I can barely remember what it looks like under normal circumstances anymore.
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Harik posted:Hey missed this on the last page. So much to unpack: Thank you. Said it better than I ever could. Mixodorian, now that you have a clear answer to your confused-yet-easily-googled question about a Syrian NFZ, how has your position changed? Also, what kinda folks you been talking to? All the Syrians ive ever had the nerve to discuss the subject with have wanted the US to do more to stop Assad.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Jesus I'm not sure I can do eight solid years of people raging against the concept of incremental progress. I won't be one of those people, I'm not raging. I just find it fascinating that Hillary is flawless/her flaws are inconsequential to so many people. Maybe we should've picked her over Obama in 2008, considering we are getting killed in the streets and not much has changed. Dexo posted:So close yet so far away to November 8th There are extremely substantial differences between what Campaign Zero outlines and what Hillary has outlined. Campaign detail actually outlines specifics, as well. Don't make it out like I'm unsatisfied over a name drop, that's hosed. An example would be ending the police seizure of people's property. I live in the Bronx. Do you know how many bodegas get raided and have all their poo poo stolen by the police without reason?
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Mixodorian posted:I won't be one of those people, I'm not raging. I just find it fascinating that Hillary is flawless/her flaws are inconsequential to so many people. Maybe we should've picked her over Obama in 2008, considering we are getting killed in the streets and not much has changed. Well man, if you're not raging people aren't calling Hillary flawless either. Do you really need to do the bad relationship "I just think it's funny how..." distancing from your own opinions to come out with them? We're in the last week of the election, the stakes are high, and her presidency hasn't even started yet. Forgive us if no one feels like arguing policy with someone who hasn't even read up on what Hillary's policies are for her presidency she hasn't even won yet. And you're doing the frustratingly common layman politics thing of thinking everything we do in this country goes through the executive branch. Police seizure is a big thing, but the president doesn't have jack poo poo to do with it.
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HookedOnChthonics posted:Yeah unless you think any decision to vote for her is saying she's flawless full-stop I do not think there is a single person saying that? Laughably preferable to any available alternative != flawless by any means. "You guys keep arguing against drinking the bleach, no-one is making a case for the orange juice."
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Mixodorian posted:I just find it fascinating that Hillary is flawless/her flaws are inconsequential to so many people. Hmm, what events and ongoing political context of the past year+ might have led so many people, including vocal critics of Clinton, to decide that her flaws are less important now? HMMMM nope, can't think of anything. There was deserved criticism of Obama from the left, and there will be even more of Clinton. As TB pointed out, it's deuced odd for you to worry a liberal president won't get enough static (much less a woman, much less one named "Clinton").
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:presidency hasn't even started yet. It won't. I can't wait for Donald Trump to get elected next week so he can appoint a special prosecutor to lock up Crooked Hillary and Sick Willy for good!!  Reminder that the posters in this thread spent 4 hours bashing a transgender person with transphobic slurs yesterday for suggesting the mentally ill conspiracy theory that maybe you shouldn't fly off the lid & demonize anyone who makes a slightly racist comment.
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Hey let's all make a commitment to not quoting the stupid loving trolling idiot in this thread please. I don't know what he said, nor do I wish to. Pls respect my choices
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Clinton's inner circle knew FIVE YEARS AGO that Anthony Weiner was messaging an underage girl on Twitter - but did nothing about it  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3890748/Clinton-s-inner-circle-knew-FIVE-YEARS-AGO-Anthony-Weiner-talking-underage-girl-did-it.html
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Well man, if you're not raging people aren't calling Hillary flawless either. Do you really need to do the bad relationship "I just think it's funny how..." distancing from your own opinions to come out with them? We're in the last week of the election, the stakes are high, and her presidency hasn't even started yet. Forgive us if no one feels like arguing policy with someone who hasn't even read up on what Hillary's policies are for her presidency she hasn't even won yet. Well I did have some posters excuse her for saying the rise of autism might be linked to vaccines which amazed me. It's not funny, it's just anxiety inducing. I get it though, I've been of the mind that Hillary can't lose to Trump and should be more understanding that people are still worried. I am well aware that the president doesn't get to dictate how the police operate, just as the president can't equip police with body cameras but only propose budgets that would allow matching the departments on the cost. I just feel like if you're going to come to the Apollo and say racial justice for black Americans will be the mission of your presidency, and we can hold her feet to the fire on that, she'd have a little bit more in mind than what she has let on so far. This being after the rent on my mother and grandmother's shared apartment near 145th went up after the Clinton Foundation decided to set up shop in Harlem. Either way, despite being safe to vote for Jill Stein in NY, I'm most likely voting for Hillary just to run up the score on Trump. My mother isn't going to vote though, she gave up on Hillary after seeing the video of her giving lip to that young Haitian(?) girl about "if you don't like it, run yourself" way back during the primaries. e: thanks for the actual serious responses though.
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themrguy posted:"You guys keep arguing against drinking the bleach, no-one is making a case for the orange juice." I would say that right now Mixodorian is a man apoplectically scrabbling to get the child safety cap off the Draino because he wanted no-pulp but the store only had low-pulp, actually. Oh lord the trumpen-polenta showed back up HookedOnChthonics fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Nov 1, 2016 |
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Hey let's all make a commitment to not quoting the stupid loving trolling idiot in this thread please. I don't know what he said, nor do I wish to. Pls respect my choices "please guys don't bash the tranny this time so we don't look like a bunch of hypocrite bigots ready to lash out at any moment"
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:And you're doing the frustratingly common layman politics thing of thinking everything we do in this country goes through the executive branch. Police seizure is a big thing, but the president doesn't have jack poo poo to do with it. That's... not entirely true. The easiest seizure laws are federal, and have to be done by the feds. There's a kickback scheme to the local department that brings it to their attention. As such, all the civil forfeiture that runs through the DoJ could be shut down by the president in a number of ways - asking them to de-prioritize, to demand more evidence before going to trial, or just to look for racial bias in the incoming cases before going forward with them. I don't think the president can directly block the kickback scheme, since that's via the 1984 Comprehensive Crime Control Act. The president does have some options here, but there's the ~optics~ of not being Tough On (minority) Crime. I might be wrong about this, and I expect one of our resident lawgoons will blast me for it if I am, but that's my understanding of the current CAF arrangements.
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HookedOnChthonics posted:Yeah unless you think any decision to vote for her is saying she's flawless full-stop I do not think there is a single person saying that? Laughably preferable to any available alternative != flawless by any means.
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Mixodorian posted:This being after the rent on my mother and grandmother's shared apartment near 145th went up after the Clinton Foundation decided to set up shop in Harlem. So she shouldn't have set up in Harlem? Is the Clinton Foundation directly responsible for rent pricing in NYC or something? Is this something you see as a legit grievance or are you just saying poo poo
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Pat Caddell, Jimmy Carter's pollster in 1980, said today that "the Carter campaign knew the weekend before that Reagan was going to win in a landslide. Same thing now, except that Reagan won 39 states in 1980. Trump is going to carry at least 40."
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Mixodorian posted:I won't be one of those people, I'm not raging. I just find it fascinating that Hillary is flawless/her flaws are inconsequential to so many people. Maybe we should've picked her over Obama in 2008, considering we are getting killed in the streets and not much has changed. Handling Forfeiture is in the Dem's platform. Hillary hasn't specifically mentioned anything about it(because this election has been trash along with the debates for actually having good policy talk) . I'm fairly confident that Hillary isn't going to come out as pro forfeiture laws. Honestly Forfeiture laws are something she could probably get bipartisan support over as a number of GOP lawmakers also hate those dumb laws.
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Tashan Dorrsett posted:Pat Caddell, Jimmy Carter's pollster in 1980, said today that "the Carter campaign knew the weekend before that Reagan was going to win in a landslide. Same thing now, except that Reagan won 39 states in 1980. Trump is going to carry at least 40."
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Lemming posted:Didn't Holder limit federal forfeiture in some way last year? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/federal-eye/wp/2015/03/31/holder-announces-new-limits-on-civil-asset-forfeitures/
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Cingulate posted:What's with the bold emphasis on the part that's true
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Cingulate, posters telling you that looking in from outside as a eurokid circa 2003 your grasp of the US media environment and internal political pressures is not in fact an unimpeachable reflection of soberly-derived consideration that any US pol could have been reasonably held to, is not unconditional criticism, or an attack. It is a very specific explanation of why you were wrong on that count.
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I'm sure it's been said already but I love this thread title. It's perfect for the series finale.
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Islam is the Lite Rock FM posted:Oh sweet the Freepers back. Good strategy, demonize anyone who doesn't agree with you by throwing labels at them. That worked out really well for you guys bashed a trans woman with racist, sexist, transphobic comments & intentional misgendering for 30 pages because they didn't agree with your political views yesterday.
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Tashan Dorrsett posted:"please guys don't bash the tranny this time so we don't look like a bunch of hypocrite bigots ready to lash out at any moment" Please, don't use the t-word. You're clearly more comfortable with being called a toaster so you should stick with that. I must admit, though, that I have a hard time believing your gender identity is real when you are so clearly just using it as a club to support comparing people to inanimate objects. I mean, maybe you are transexual AND an rear end in a top hat, but I'm more willing to believe you're just the latter.
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Tashan Dorrsett posted:Good strategy, demonize anyone who doesn't agree with you by throwing labels at them. That worked out really well for you guys bashed a trans woman with racist, sexist, transphobic comments & intentional misgendering for 30 pages because they didn't agree with your political views yesterday. Na I just demonize people who post on freep.
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I guess, indeed, "check out sex tape" https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/793310080699658240 quote:Ex-spy claims Russia filmed Trump in an orgy in Moscow. Would be in a tradition of blackmail predating even the KGB (not buying this one, too much even for this loving election)
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themrguy posted:Is corn man trolling or is he an actual Trumpenstaffel? You know that instantly associating Trump supporters with nazi-ism is the exact same thought process that makes white supremacists associate blacks with violent crime, except at least one of them has a basis in factual data? White supremacists are horrible, but even their views have more merit than the disgusting hate you spread.
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Mixodorian posted:Well I did have some posters excuse her for saying the rise of autism might be linked to vaccines which amazed me. It's not funny, it's just anxiety inducing. Mixodorian posted:e: thanks for the actual serious responses though.
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Tashan Dorrsett posted:You know that instantly associating Trump supporters with nazi-ism is the exact same thought process that makes white supremacists associate blacks with violent crime, except at least one of them has a basis in factual data?  gently caress off.
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