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Dexo posted:Politicians are the same way. No loving poo poo the Clinton campaign was tossing around ideas(some of them terrible ones they never used, but it's just brainstorming). But it's treated as some loving affront unto man that a campaign team was doing it's job. People judge what people say harsher than what they probably say. Trump has said that Bill Clinton has said similar things to the "pussy grabbing" speech in private, and I think it's probably true, judging by his similar behavior. I'm pretty sure that the Republican email servers would contain as much or more of this stuff, but for some "mysterious" reason, we only have one side of the story. Actually, I'd LOVE to see all the backstage Republican freakouts about Trump that without any doubt exist.
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corn in the bible posted:im not selfhating I hope you enjoy your open bisexual relationships then.
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canepazzo posted:Unreported in that earlier advertising blitz from Camp Trump - they pulled ads from PA. Read it as you will. Why waste money in a state you're guaranteed to win? 
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Crain posted:Don't know if this was posted but it seems that our buddy Tashan Dorrsett is getting the FBI involved with investigating her ban: ROFL what a nutter.
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ImpAtom posted:I hope you enjoy your open bisexual relationships then. Trust me, that's not a problem 
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A Winner is Jew posted:The US state department made it really loving hard for wikileaks to raise money while Clinton was at the helm to start with. Also Assange has a huge hate boner for the US, jews, and women while also being the pawn of Putin. I obviously know about the cables, I'm just puzzled as to why he seems to side with Trump. Thinking that HRC is a bully, sure, but assuming that Trump wouldn't be a worse one seems crazy. What do you mean by saying he has issues with Jews?
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GI_Clutch posted:Yawn. While it's all horrible stuff he's said, it feels like every Hillary ad I've seen for months is just compilations of the same clips. They need something better than "listen to what Donald said in an interview ten or more years ago" and sometimes "he incites violence and also he mocked a reporter with a disability." I mean, I guess maybe they don't have much else to go on since he hasn't been in office, but there has to be something else they can hit on from the debates, his rallies, etc. That's because you're a huge weirdo like literally every other poster/lurker in this thread who actually watches a whole bunch of these ads and follows politics closely instead of your average American who will expend great effort to avoid becoming informed or seeing political ads.
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Remember how Tashan originally showed up in the thread talking about how people who cannot handle insults about their gender or race are big babies who don't belong in the real world just saying
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corn in the bible posted:im not selfhating She's just falling for the D&D hivemind meme. Everyone here is selfhating, racist, or a SJW, but I doubt more than a quarter of us are all three
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Zeluth posted:Pence should have been aborted. Maybe he was and it couldn't stop him. Maybe thats why he hates them so much.
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Non Serviam posted:Switching gears a bit, does anyone have any theories as to why Assange has it out for Clinton? Assange's been living in the alt right bubble for the last few years.
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Non Serviam posted:I obviously know about the cables, I'm just puzzled as to why he seems to side with Trump. He probably thinks he can go to Trump and be like "Look how hard I worked to make sure Hillary didn't win" and then Trump will love him and pardon him and give him a pony.
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GI_Clutch posted:Yawn. While it's all horrible stuff he's said, it feels like every Hillary ad I've seen for months is just compilations of the same clips. They need something better than "listen to what Donald said in an interview ten or more years ago" and sometimes "he incites violence and also he mocked a reporter with a disability." I mean, I guess maybe they don't have much else to go on since he hasn't been in office, but there has to be something else they can hit on from the debates, his rallies, etc. The fact that the clips in that video haven't already guaranteed a historic landslide loss are a damning indictment of the American populace, really.
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Non Serviam posted:I obviously know about the cables, I'm just puzzled as to why he seems to side with Trump. Assange is a anti-semite 
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Fangz posted:Assange's been living in the alt right bubble for the last few years. As fun as it might use that as a bumper sticker, can you elaborate?
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RZA Encryption posted:How close to election day is too close for an oppo dump to matter? December.
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RZA Encryption posted:How close to election day is too close for an oppo dump to matter? I would expect a steady stream through Sunday.
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Nenonen posted:What if the upcoming FBI investigation on SA finds HRC's secret platinum account? If hrc turns out to be smg, I'm voting trump
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RZA Encryption posted:How close to election day is too close for an oppo dump to matter? Early voting is going on so the closer the worse it is at this point.
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GI_Clutch posted:Yawn. While it's all horrible stuff he's said, it feels like every Hillary ad I've seen for months is just compilations of the same clips. They need something better than "listen to what Donald said in an interview ten or more years ago" and sometimes "he incites violence and also he mocked a reporter with a disability." I mean, I guess maybe they don't have much else to go on since he hasn't been in office, but there has to be something else they can hit on from the debates, his rallies, etc. every ad for the past 6 months "i'd stare her in her big fat ugly face" "I don't know what I said! I don't reeeemememmber!" "I'd tell them to go **** themselves!" "A woman who's flat chested can never be a ten!" "she was bleeding out of her wherever!' ad nauseam definitely gotten pretty old
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No Butt Stuff posted:I would expect a steady stream through Sunday. We haven't got poo poo since Alicia Macahdo at the first debate.
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Guy Goodbody posted:Assange is a anti-semite i don't understand anything past establishment climbers
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Non Serviam posted:As fun as it might use that as a bumper sticker, can you elaborate? Accusing critics of being Jewish, making a big deal out of every time Hillary gave speeches to Jewish groups even if it was over something completely non-controversial, using lots of standard anti-Jewish dog whistles, etc.
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I wonder if Russia has offered Assange a ticket to Moscow if he helps them out a bit. He must be pretty desperate for any way out, and the case of Edward Snowden shows that Russia can keep Western dissidents safe if its worth their while.
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There is no tape in the Clinton vault. We'd have seen it by now.canepazzo posted:Unreported in that earlier advertising blitz from Camp Trump - they pulled ads from PA. Read it as you will. If your resources are limited like theirs are, you need to gamble for the map where you can win. My best guess, if we are to assume some kind of rational actor at work here (!), is that they have decided that the only way they win the election is if the polls have a particular kind of demographic miss that, if factored in all the swing states, means that PA is a tight win for Trump, which then means states that are not like PA are the ones that need flipping. It'd have to be something like "suburban whites and educated whites will not actually vote for Clinton", for PA to be the one they're pulling from. That'd imply pulling from CO, NH and VA as well, and pouring money into FL, NC, GA, AZ, NV instead. It'd imply a map like this where you still need to win Florida or run the table elsewhere to win. What I'm saying is, the same way Romney trying to play for PA in 2012 meant he was  , Trump pulling out from PA in 2016 means he's super . But if all the polls have you down, down down, you either concede the election immediately like Bob Dole or you unskew the polls enough to show a potentially winning map and then play the game as if that's the real map.
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No Butt Stuff posted:I would expect a steady stream through Sunday. Unless there's some chaser to all of last nights shots, the oppo dump of last night looked more like flailing than any sort of legitimate strategy. I think both candidates are oppo'd out at this point, Liz Mair's teeth-gnashing aside.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Accusing critics of being Jewish, making a big deal out of every time Hillary gave speeches to Jewish groups even if it was over something completely non-controversial, using lots of standard anti-Jewish dog whistles, etc. Also being raised in a neo-nazi cult in Australia, this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Family_(Australian_New_Age_group)
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HannibalBarca posted:Unless there's some chaser to all of last nights shots, the oppo dump of last night looked more like flailing than any sort of legitimate strategy. I think both candidates are oppo'd out at this point, Liz Mair's teeth-gnashing aside. Thread moves fast so I posted this earlier today, but it's essentially a bunch of investigative reporting coming to fruition and stories that have been incubating getting shoved out the door while readers still care. Most of them will be negative for Trump because he's loving Donald Trump.
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BarbarianElephant posted:I wonder if Russia has offered Assange a ticket to Moscow if he helps them out a bit. He must be pretty desperate for any way out, and the case of Edward Snowden shows that Russia can keep Western dissidents safe if its worth their while. The second he steps outside of the embassy, the British police will arrest him. Before you ask, no, the embassy doesn't have roof access. the Russians can't Fulton him out
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Antti posted:There is no tape in the Clinton vault. We'd have seen it by now. The only reason this doesn't reassure me quite as much as it would is that I can't honestly believe Trump has access to anything approaching accurate data or rational strategy.
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Guy Goodbody posted:The second he steps outside of the embassy, the British police will arrest him. Before you ask, no, the embassy doesn't have roof access. the Russians can't Fulton him out I want Assange to have a mental breakdown for being stuck in the embassy for so many years.
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Agrajag posted:i don't understand anything past establishment climbers The ((())) symbol has been applied to just about anyone the alt-right are pissed at. It "marks" them as the hated Jews because they are neo-Nazis and need to discredit the enemy by being the worst possible thing in their eyes. Assange is implying everyone he hates is a Jew because he's deep in with the Alt-Right.
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Guy Goodbody posted:The second he steps outside of the embassy, the British police will arrest him. Before you ask, no, the embassy doesn't have roof access. the Russians can't Fulton him out They could, in theory, put him within a diplomatic bag.
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Antti posted:Thread moves fast so I posted this earlier today, but it's essentially a bunch of investigative reporting coming to fruition and stories that have been incubating getting shoved out the door while readers still care. Most of them will be negative for Trump because he's loving Donald Trump. Maybe, but none of it is gonna be the "oppo" bomb that so many people have been hoping/saying exists. The Russia stuff fizzled out in, like, three hours last night; and if you believe in that FSB Sex Tape, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. And some oceanfront property in Arizona if you think any MSM outlet is gonna run with a story about Trump making a woman sign an NDA after forcing her to have an abortion.
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fishmech posted:Also being raised in a neo-nazi cult in Australia, this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Family_(Australian_New_Age_group) People can escape that stuff and grow out of it, like the Stormfront dude's kid or the Prussian Blue twins. I'd say the fact that Assange is still doing that kind of stuff now is much more damning.
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Non Serviam posted:As fun as it might use that as a bumper sticker, can you elaborate? Imagine your entire life is lived in a small room and your only access to the outside world is the internet. Imagine your perceived reason for this is the machinations of feminists. Imagine that you've steadily alienated all your more mainstream friends, so all you have left as adoring fans are now increasingly radical internet 'libertarians' and fringe political people like RT who will parrot back to you every thought. I don't think you really need a conspiracy to consider how daily immersion in that environment among that crowd can gently caress people up. Even before his self-imposed imprisonment we had former friends talk about creepy misogynists like Israel Shamir ( http://www.israelshamir.net/English/Unmanning.htm ) gaining influence over Assange. I think it seems clear that this sort of thing continued. People talk about Wikileaks's support of the Russian position regarding that tax haven leak, but really you can look at earlier stuff - in particular Wikileaks coming out in favour of Gamergate: http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/20/7015849/wikileaks-finds-common-cause-with-gamergate
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