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Hey I see someone changed Non Serviam's avatar away from that poor guy who always gets used. IIRC that's an activist who definitely doesn't deserve to be drawn into our nerdfights.
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:my least favorite thing about the michelle obama fantasy run is that she's made it abundantly clear that she hates DC and can't wait to leave but people just skip over this because we need to deny her agency to satisfy our electoral fantasies From way back but I'm hoping Hillary magically cleans up DC enough that Michelle decides it's a nice town now. Then the thousand years of liberal darkness can
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:The Senate is fine. PA, NH, and NV are going to be fine. FL is now somehow in reach. NC might also be fine too, Burr's a loving moron, and the Governor's race is holding him down too. To you a 50-50 senate is fine. It's not fine.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:I already early-voted in California and this part of the ballot took the most research by far. The judges all had identical personal statements about how they believed in fairness, which is nice and all but I really want to know about things like how they feel about minimum sentencing, punitive vs. rehabilitative justice, trying minors as adults, and how cozy they are with the cops and the DAs. I don't know that I made perfect choices. The most useful info I found was their list of endorsements - Policeman's Union = No Thanks, for instance.
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Eugene V. Dabs posted:Maybe, but there won't be anything like "Black Man in the White House" to keep them energized for 6+ years. My dude, allow me to let you in on a little secret. Obama is merely a "black man in the white house" those people. Hillary is literally the devil made flesh.
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mcmagic posted:To you a 50-50 senate is fine. It's not fine. Why?
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Unzip and Attack posted:If you are a white male and have empathy you should definitely feel guilty about the advantages you own but don't deserve. It shouldn't be a crippling malaise that runs your life but if you don't feel even a little ashamed of your unearned privilege then it's hard to see how your worldview isn't warped. I do, and I feel it put's a burden on me, a white man's burden if you will, to use my privilege for good.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Hey I see someone changed Non Serviam's avatar away from that poor guy who always gets used. IIRC that's an activist who definitely doesn't deserve to be drawn into our nerdfights. Yeah I ended up asking someone to change mine not because I was upset at a red text av, but that it was being ableist Call me a stupid mother fucker all you want but leave people with learning disabilities out it
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How the Anti-choice Movement Paved the Way for Trump"Adele Stan at [i posted:The American Prospect[/i]"]In a stunning stunning piece titled “From Roe to Trump” in Wednesday’s New York Times, columnist Ross Douthat serves up a revisionist history of the anti-choice movement, holding up its alleged pacifism as the rationale for conservative opposition to the presidential candidacy of Donald J. Trump. There are plenty of reasons for anyone of any political stripe to oppose Trump, but to accept Douthat’s premise of the anti-choice movement as some Peaceable Kingdom of Fetus Protectors is to live in Upside-Down Land. For, if any cultural movement paved the way for Trump, it is the one that seeks to deprive women of agency over their own bodies. Edit - Copying was weird due to page formatting / pull quote. I have adjusted it.  
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mcmagic posted:To you a 50-50 senate is fine. It's not fine. 51-49, and it's fine in the sense that your BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOME was maybe 52/53 seats. Like we've well established you live in some kind of fantasy world where magical unicorns and puppies appear and make things happen, but like that's not real.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:The most useful info I found was their list of endorsements - Policeman's Union = No Thanks, for instance. Ooh, thats a good idea
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Hey I see someone changed Non Serviam's avatar away from that poor guy who always gets used. IIRC that's an activist who definitely doesn't deserve to be drawn into our nerdfights. Yea I'm okay with earning the text in my title but I really resent having that dude's picture in it, prolly gonna grab a new one.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:I think what he was trying to say is that it might have made a dent in "snap-polling" [lack of a better term here] but that it faded quickly once more details came out and we reset to something like 4-6% margin. There's evidence to suggest good news makes partisans more likely to reply to polls and bad news less likely, but doesn't fundamentally change their responses or likelihood to vote. That is news causes sampling errors, rather than actual changes in people's voting preferences. That's probably what he's trying to get at but he's explaining it poorly.
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As long as the president can accomplish a lot with a 50-50 that's better than losing it. I fear the GOP is going to take the Obama strategy to 11 with her administration though, just outright idiotic obstinate governing ahead.
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Because McMagic likes to move goal posts so he can be a smug leftist about anything HRC related.
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Nov 2, 2016 20:52
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One of my judges up for retention was a police officer before getting their law degree. No thanks.
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Nonsense posted:As long as the president can accomplish a lot with a 50-50 that's better than losing it. I fear the GOP is going to take the Obama strategy to 11 with her administration though, just outright obstinate governing ahead. Republicans have already said they will do exactly that.
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Unzip and Attack posted:If you are a white male and have empathy you should definitely feel guilty about the advantages you own but don't deserve.
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I also still have no idea what my new avatar means so I might easily be getting super subtly trolled
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axeil posted:There's evidence to suggest good news makes partisans more likely to reply to polls and bad news less likely, but doesn't fundamentally change their responses or likelihood to vote. That is news causes sampling errors, rather than actual changes in people's voting preferences. That's probably what he's trying to get at but he's explaining it poorly. He talked about, a bit later in twitter today, about stuff like the FBI-news having a half-life on polling.
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Crain posted:Yo. Non Serviam. I kind of said the same thing here already. If you're just a white dude trying to feel better by policing someone else's words, you can gently caress right off. If, on the other hand, you are a black person, and felt personally offended by the way I phrased my point, I do apologize for that. You're a very angry person. I hope you feel better. Edit. I sent you an empty pm by mistake. You don't need to post that here too. I'm sure everyone will make you feel cozy and loved if you do, though.  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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mcmagic posted:To you a 50-50 senate is fine. It's not fine. Kaine has the tie-breaker. Also it's been hinted that a Dem majority means a change to appointment rules. Edit: To un-jinx myself. That's operating under the assumption a 50-50 senate split is a Clinton/Kaine ticket win.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I also still have no idea what my new avatar means so I might easily be getting super subtly trolled It's a zombie from World of Warcraft I have no idea what "Karma" is supposed to mean
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Because it gives every horrible blue dog senator veto power over every piece of legislation and makes it a certainty that they will lose the senate in 2018.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Very disappointing that Iowa, Wisconsin, and Ohio, which used to be the centers of left-wing populism, are now running towards white nationalism at a faster rate than the rest of the country. These suckers (in Ohio at least) would vote for anyone that says they're going to bring their old jobs back. For a lot of these people "Make America Great Again" is like the beginning and end of why they are voting for Trump. Many of them are otherwise sane people but are just blinded for this lust for the past. Trust me, the city I live in does nothing but jerk off over its past and how it used to be a great steel-producing town and woe is me. They're dumb, myopic, gullible, selfish, and naive.....but many of them are not blatantly racist or gun-loving white nationalists. They're real people with real concerns, but they are just so goddamn stupid (and, I repeat, gullible) for their own good.
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FactsAreUseless posted:*extremely salutes the flag* I know this is old but I just found this and it fits too well to not post: 
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FactsAreUseless posted:Why? That doesn't help the people who need it. You should be angry and frustrated by the lack of justice in our society, not guilty because you're worried about how it reflects on you. White guilt is just as self-absorbed as white resentment. Because there is a value to being honest about the history of moral outrage that has lead to your current comfort. White guilt doesn't mean flagellating yourself before the altar of multiculturalism or something, it means being aware of the moral burden your privilege carries and that you have an obligation to those who have suffered for your benefit.
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"I'm sorry if you felt attacked," jeez man come on.
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mcmagic posted:Because it gives every horrible blue dog senator veto power over every piece of legislation and makes it a certainty that they will lose the senate in 2018. Democrats are already looking to lose the senate in 2018, and you're a loving idiot on your other point.
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Eugene V. Dabs posted:Maybe, but there won't be anything like "Black Man in the White House" to keep them energized for 6+ years. I think Trump TV will become the wind beneath their inseams
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Non Serviam posted:I kind of said the same thing here already. this is why it's OK to 'persecute' white folk fyi /e- to clarify you're a piece of poo poo
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 A prophet among us.
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FactsAreUseless posted:Why? That doesn't help the people who need it. You should be angry and frustrated by the lack of justice in our society, not guilty because you're worried about how it reflects on you. White guilt is just as self-absorbed as white resentment. Yeah, "guilty" is a thing you should only feel for things that you've done. You should feel guilty about the ways you've, perhaps unconsciously, perpetuated white/male/straight privilege, sure, but not for the way in which those systems have benefitted you. As you point out, it's valid to feel angry about unjustified privilege in general, but that's a different thing from guilt.
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Of course trump is getting accused of raping a teenage girl. Of course.
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A Winner is Jew posted:My dude, allow me to let you in on a little secret. Yeah, but Clinton is a general Republican boogeyman, not for white nationalists in particular.
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Avatar Man is John Franklin Stephens, an anti-ableism activist affiliated with the Special Olympics who wrote this letter to Ann Coulter after her "doing a standard retard" gem dropped. The avatar image is cropped from this shot of him addressing a crowd of people as he often does in his role as a Special Olympics Global Messenger.  He's done more good in the world than nearly anyone posting here, and abusing a photo of him taken on a day he was rightfully happy and proud is a special kind of cruel that should not be tolerated here.
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poor life choice posted:"I'm sorry if you felt attacked," jeez man come on. What? I wasn't talking to him, I said English isn't my first language, I wasn't trying to put down a whole race by saying that. If he felt that my words were an attack, I'm sorry for that. I'm not going to apologize for a racism I wasn't trying to convey to begin with.
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A Winner is Jew posted:Democrats are already looking to loose the senate in 2018, and you're a loving idiot on your other point. Apparently Math isn't one of your strong suits. The was their chance to at the very least to get 54-55 seats and cushion their majority so that it WOULDN'T just flip back in 2018. Also, did you enjoy Joe Lieberman having veto power over the medicare buy in in 2009?
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:He talked about, a bit later in twitter today, about stuff like the FBI-news having a half-life on polling. Yeah, the partisans going back to answering polls would explain the half-life effect. Regardless, we'll know if Regular Nate, Shook Nate, Sam Wang, Nate Cohn or Bill Mitchell's Presidential Masks Model is right by this time next week.
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