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Northjayhawk
Mar 8, 2008

by exmarx
Eliminating the statute of limitations is generally thought to be very unfair to the defense, because if you are accused of something 25 years ago, no one remembers anything, receipts or pictures you had on your phone that might have helped your side are gone, witnesses who could have helped you are dead, etc.

We make an exception for murder because, well its murder.

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Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

MattD1zzl3 posted:

You keep knocking down that strawman. The echo chamber has made you dull.

Half your rapsheet is for racism you dumb rear end in a top hat

Pretty piss-poor echo chamber if racists keep getting in it. As long as objecting to racism gets longer punishments than being racist I think your precious "diversity of thought" is free and clear, Grand Wizard.

Tiny Brontosaurus fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Nov 2, 2016

Samuel Clemens
Oct 4, 2013

I think we should call the Avengers.

Craptacular! posted:

I expect Trump to win the popular vote but lose the EV map, and go away bickering that the electoral college rigs elections.

You are Nate Silver, and I claim my five pounds.

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

Half your rapsheet is for racism you dumb rear end in a top hat

MattD1zzl3: "Behold, this should prove my mastery of the 5th dimensional chess game of debate"

*holds up a McDonald's kids meal activity sheet where the maze is solved by just drawing a straight line through the walls in purple crayon*

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
Everybody please stop saying nothingburger

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH

Samuel Clemens posted:

You are Nate Silver, and I claim my five pounds.

Nate Silver has far better baseball opinions than I do. Just ask SAS!

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

Half your rapsheet is for racism you dumb rear end in a top hat

TB, while it's fun to rage against dumb assholes his entire thing it to get probated / banned and is just looking for a rise out of you.

I mean you shouldn't have to deal with his own special brand of horrible human being but I'll tell you the same thing I tell my wife when her emotionally abusive father gets under her skin. Don't give the piece of poo poo the satisfaction of getting to you because it's now worth it.

size1one
Jun 24, 2008

I don't want a nation just for me, I want a nation for everyone

axeil posted:

IANAL but the biggest problem is probably that as time goes on the evidence degrades as even DNA evidence (I think) has a shelf life.

Sort of. Biological samples degrade over time when improperly stored, but you only need to sequence them once.

Proper storage is costly because low-temp freezers aren't cheap.

Crows Turn Off
Jan 7, 2008


Guy Goodbody posted:

Everybody please stop saying nothingburger
Is this the start of Nothingburgergate?!

RPZip
Feb 6, 2009

WORDS IN THE HEART
CANNOT BE TAKEN

mcmagic posted:

People in this thread don't like acknowledging that.

I don't think she's uniquely bad, I think she's actually a really great candidate to run against Donald "Has A Problem With Being Challenged By Women" Trump. It's just that America is awful and/or a lot of people buy into Trump, and Bernie would be doing worse than Hillary is.

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.

Rick_Hunter posted:

You're asking many police departments to add a -20C freezer to their evidence storage instead of just storing it in a loving box in a room that may or may not be temperature controlled.

Yeah, I don't have many hopes that police departments will be jumping at the opportunity to add another expenditure.

Freezing just extends its life to 'longer than human history', DNA is actually pretty resilient stuff and even callous neglect isn't enough to gently caress it up past readability in any reasonable timeframe.

It really depends on what the sample is of course and how shoddily it was collected. DNA is very resilient to simply falling apart over time on its own but outside factors can certainly gently caress it up much faster.

Feinne fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Nov 2, 2016

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Guy Goodbody posted:

Everybody please stop saying nothingburger

I will continue to say nothingburger because its addition to political lexicon, along with "ratfucking", is one of the few positives to come from this election.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Craptacular! posted:

First of all, I'd never use the term welfare queens. Many would consider me to be one (I was uninsured before Obama.) But if we give taxpayer funded quality of life benefits to anyone who can manage to get in our borders regardless of how they do it, that's going to happen. It's part of why as a poorly educated American I can't just pick up and move to the U.K. and have NHS healthcare and better benefits. They don't want me. They want people who will pay into the NHS etc. They want young, educated people who preferably already are making high incomes.

So the only reason we don't have welfare queens is that our social services suck?

Again, remember that you're talking about a nation of 330 million people. We can handle people coming in.

Rick_Hunter
Jan 5, 2004

My guys are still fighting the hard fight!
(weapons, shields and drones are still online!)

Crows Turn Off posted:

Is this the start of Nothingburgergate?!

The Nothingburgers that BIG AG doesn't want you to know ABOUT!

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

Mel Mudkiper posted:

I also still have no idea what my new avatar means so I might easily be getting super subtly trolled

It's from a World of Warcraft wallpaper; buying you a better avatar was good karma. :ms:

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

A Winner is Jew posted:

TB, while it's fun to rage against dumb assholes his entire thing it to get probated / banned and is just looking for a rise out of you.

I mean you shouldn't have to deal with his own special brand of horrible human being but I'll tell you the same thing I tell my wife when her emotionally abusive father gets under her skin. Don't give the piece of poo poo the satisfaction of getting to you because it's now worth it.

I'm sick of this thread's Daily Douchebag. We have way too many people posting the most vile dehumanizing poo poo and then trying to join in a conversation about polling numbers like nothing happened. He gets to pretend he's not trash because people let him.

ReV VAdAUL
Oct 3, 2004

I'm WILD about
WILDMAN

Crows Turn Off posted:

Is this the start of Nothingburgergate?!

Or just a lobbyist for Diddlydog.

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

Rhesus Pieces posted:

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/793815297081868288

Are you loving kidding me? I've slogged through about a dozen articles and a bunch of podcasts this election season that were all about empathy for the almost mythic specimen that is the Poor White Rural Trump Voter. A specimen that so rarely exhibits empathy for anyone else, mind you.

E: corrected link

i refuse to show empathy for those that show none to others and think being a racist sexist rear end in a top hat is a virtue

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Cabbit posted:

It's from a World of Warcraft wallpaper; buying you a better avatar was good karma. :ms:

Well I appreciate it very much!

Smackbilly
Jan 3, 2001
What kind of a name is Pizza Organ! anyway?

Kevyn posted:

Just got back from voting in MA. It was my first time early voting, is it normal for them to ask you to put your ballot in an envelope and write your loving name and address on it? Doesn't that kinda defeat the whole secret ballot thing?



I early voted recently in CA in a county that uses this same system (early voting = literally filling out an absentee ballot in person, and sign the outer envelope). While I was voting some guy started going off on the poll workers about being part of a totalitarian police state for exactly this reason.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

canepazzo posted:

Note: these are from an HFA operator so they might be "skewed" so to speak, but still interesting figures.

quote:

quote:
OH: More than half of all votes have come in over the past week and more voters have cast ballots in person than at this point in 2012.
OH: In the last 7 days, early voting in person turnout outpaced the same seven days in Ohio in 2012 by about 30%.

FL: Over half a million African American voters have cast ballots so far which is ⅓ higher than at this point in 2012.
FL: Over 500k have voted in the Democratic stronghold of Miami-Dade Co, more than the total number who early voted during 2012.

NC: Dem counties surging - Durham outpacing '12 by 19%, Mecklenburg County, outpacing '12 by 6%, and Wake County outpacing '12 by 17%.
NC: Over 2m people have voted, up from this point in 2012. Yesterday, nearly 5k more AfAm voters cast ballots than the same day in '12

NV: Over half a million people have voted so far and turnout in Clark Co is up 17% compared to this point in 2012. Dems still outpacing GOP

WI: In fact, last week, the City of Madison - home to the University Of Wisconsin - broke its 2012 early vote record.
WI: early votes are coming from major Dem counties (Dane/Milwaukee) compared to the GOP strongholds (WOW counties) by a margin of 2-1.

Can we talk more about this? This seems like good news...

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Guy Goodbody posted:

Everybody please stop saying nothingburger
Yeah, it's not a good look. The optics are terrible.

Ogmius815
Aug 25, 2005
centrism is a hell of a drug

Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

I'm sick of this thread's Daily Douchebag. We have way too many people posting the most vile dehumanizing poo poo and then trying to join in a conversation about polling numbers like nothing happened. He gets to pretend he's not trash because people let him.

Yes I too agree that this forum should be nothing but a constant witch hunt to exclude people that disagree with us. That's exactly the sort of moderation this forum could use.

Danyull
Jan 16, 2011

Re: Church burnings

https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/793874830365892609

Apologies if this has already been posted, thread moves fast as gently caress.

NoEyedSquareGuy
Mar 16, 2009

Just because Liquor's dead, doesn't mean you can just roll this bitch all over town with "The Freedoms."
"Nothingburger," while a bad term, is better than "Stinkburger," the low point of Obama's presidency.

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

I'm sick of this thread's Daily Douchebag. We have way too many people posting the most vile dehumanizing poo poo and then trying to join in a conversation about polling numbers like nothing happened. He gets to pretend he's not trash because people let him.

:agreed: and people need to stop responding to him with posts other than "gently caress off racist rear end in a top hat".

Ogmius815 posted:

Yes I too agree that this forum should be nothing but a constant witch hunt to exclude people that disagree with us. That's exactly the sort of moderation this forum could use.


Disagreement is fine.

Racist assholes should rightfully be told to gently caress off.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

And people said that it wasn't worthwhile to donate to promote political harmony.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Ogmius815 posted:

Yes I too agree that this forum should be nothing but a constant witch hunt to exclude people that disagree with us. That's exactly the sort of moderation this forum could use.

We don't need a new douchebag until Thursday, don't skip in line

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

computer parts posted:

So the only reason we don't have welfare queens is that our social services suck?

Again, remember that you're talking about a nation of 330 million people. We can handle people coming in.

Haven't you heard that Hillary wants to import 650 million immigrants into the US? :supaburn:

Rick_Hunter
Jan 5, 2004

My guys are still fighting the hard fight!
(weapons, shields and drones are still online!)

Ogmius815 posted:

Yes I too agree that this forum should be nothing but a constant witch hunt to exclude people that disagree with us. That's exactly the sort of moderation this forum could use.

This unironically because racism should be stomped out immediately.

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Ogmius815 posted:

Yes I too agree that this forum should be nothing but a constant witch hunt to exclude people that disagree with us. That's exactly the sort of moderation this forum could use.

Person of Color: "It's exhausting having to come into this thread everyday and see hate speech from people posting in bad faith"

You: "But... but... we have to respect different opinions!!"

DICKS FOR DINNER
Sep 6, 2008

Stand Proud

Ogmius815 posted:

Yes I too agree that this forum should be nothing but a constant witch hunt to exclude people that disagree with us. That's exactly the sort of moderation this forum could use.

Yeah you're right, calling out racists is equivalent to a witch hunt for wrongthink. Gosh guys, he may think PoCs are lesser beings, but that's just his opinion! You suck.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Danyull posted:

Re: Church burnings

https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/793874830365892609

Apologies if this has already been posted, thread moves fast as gently caress.

Scott Adams, proving that Dilbert has not only gotten worse but its creator deserves nothing but ire.

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
Sir Richard Stinkburger is one of Britain's finest patriots and I shan't hear an unkind word about him.

MattD1zzl3
Oct 26, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 4 years!

Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

I'm sick of this thread's Daily Douchebag. We have way too many people posting the most vile dehumanizing poo poo and then trying to join in a conversation about polling numbers like nothing happened. He gets to pretend he's not trash because people let him.

You really must be confusing me with someone else. Im no 4channer or redditor, i dont enjoy outrage or shock "humor".

While i respect beyond measure your knowlage of the effects and methods of racism in ways i could never understand, you still have a thing or two to learn about its motivation and variety.

You are welcome in any space i am in TB. Youre good people.

MattD1zzl3 fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Nov 2, 2016

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Donkwich posted:

Haven't you heard that Hillary wants to import 650 million immigrants into the US? :supaburn:

It's just really strange to hear unironic crab mentality here.

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe
Without daily douchebags the thread instantly reverts to a circular firing squad and gets a lot more tedious to read, so as far as I'm concerned keep 'em coming.

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
https://twitter.com/KNXCooper/status/793931635662041089?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
I would not like to be a news editor having to decide right the gently caress now whether to run with this or not.

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

Samuel Clemens posted:

You are Nate Silver, and I claim my five pounds.

This is an outcome that the Nate model says is very unlikely.

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Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.
I don't know if this is the right place to ask or the right time and, if it isn't, redirect me, but I'm thinking for running for the mayor's office in my village. Anything I should know?

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