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Only vaguely related to USpol, but I wonder if the Supreme Court ruling on brexit / article 50 in the UK (the parliament must vote on the process before the process of leaving the EU can start) is gonna have an effect - it's a big defeat (tho they will still likely go through with it) for the Leave party, and Trump claiming he's gonna do ten times a Brexit or whatever retarded poo poo he was talking about could backfire.
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Crabtree posted:Also "OH NO, PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW HOW ECONOMICS WORK ONLY WANT TO HELP EVERYONE OUT? WHAT A CALAMITY!" Man, it would just be awful if the democrats stone walled everything from the Patriot Act to maybe the entire invasion of Afghanistan and Irac instead of just blindly following the march of war. afghanistan was a just war we just hosed it up royally (in huge part due to iraq).
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canepazzo posted:Only vaguely related to USpol, but I wonder if the Supreme Court ruling on brexit / article 50 in the UK (the parliament must vote on the process before the process of leaving the EU can start) is gonna have an effect - it's a big defeat (tho they will still likely go through with it) for the Leave party, and Trump claiming he's gonna do ten times a Brexit or whatever retarded poo poo he was talking about could backfire. I'm honestly not convinced anybody is paying enough attention to the UK to notice these things. The fact that Trump used Brexit as something positive to model his own ambitions after already shows he didn't actually know anything about it.
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Groovelord Neato posted:afghanistan was a just war we just hosed it up royally (in huge part due to iraq).
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Roland Jones posted:Given this being her life goal, I think she'd be cautious regardless. Who could have predicted that letting heavily armed terrorists off for being good ol boys could possibly result in this? Nessus posted:I do not believe there is much sign of it causing a huge plummet here, but yes, it is disheartening to see that the FBI did this. The great joke is of course "it does not seem to be accomplishing what they want." That's about the only "positive" about all these acts. This year the Republicans have done everything in their power to sabotage the concept of democracy and tilt the numbers in their favor, up to and including turning the FBI itself into a weapon and embracing white supremacists to a level not seen in decades. It all failed to make up for their candidates and the strength of the opponent.
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canepazzo posted:Only vaguely related to USpol, but I wonder if the Supreme Court ruling on brexit / article 50 in the UK (the parliament must vote on the process before the process of leaving the EU can start) is gonna have an effect - it's a big defeat (tho they will still likely go through with it) for the Leave party, and Trump claiming he's gonna do ten times a Brexit or whatever retarded poo poo he was talking about could backfire. I doubt it will have any effect. None of the impacts of it will be felt within the next few days, most people simply don't care about British constitutional issues. Heck if anything it might strengthen Trumps' hand in saying the elites want to deny the will of (white) people the world over so they have to stop Clinton appointing any Supreme Court Justices.
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Archonex posted:She predicted a hell of a lot more than that. Trump had nothing to do with the majority of the thread.
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ReV VAdAUL posted:I doubt it will have any effect. None of the impacts of it will be felt within the next few days, most people simply don't care about British constitutional issues. Heck if anything it might strengthen Trumps' hand in saying the elites want to deny the will of (white) people the world over so they have to stop Clinton appointing any Supreme Court Justices. Since that British islands did not fall into the sea the week after Brexit, all the angry white people here saw was their nationist dream.
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ReV VAdAUL posted:Heck if anything it might strengthen Trumps' hand in saying the elites want to deny the will of (white) people the world over so they have to stop Clinton appointing any Supreme Court Justices.
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ReV VAdAUL posted:I doubt it will have any effect. None of the impacts of it will be felt within the next few days, most people simply don't care about British constitutional issues. Heck if anything it might strengthen Trumps' hand in saying the elites want to deny the will of (white) people the world over so they have to stop Clinton appointing any Supreme Court Justices. He said people can call him "Mr. BREXIT" which appears to mean "Mr. Unconstitutional" and that isn't too far from reality.
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canepazzo posted:Only vaguely related to USpol, but I wonder if the Supreme Court ruling on brexit / article 50 in the UK (the parliament must vote on the process before the process of leaving the EU can start) is gonna have an effect - it's a big defeat (tho they will still likely go through with it) for the Leave party, and Trump claiming he's gonna do ten times a Brexit or whatever retarded poo poo he was talking about could backfire.
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meristem posted:Honestly, it did astonish me how highly she was valued when studies had been done on the various right-wing phenomena for years (while she seemed to me as if acting as if she was discovering something new). I mean, as in, less her own attitude, more those of the others around. Plain weird. It was written in fairly accessible language and spoken from what's presumably first hand experience. Sure the DSM will tell you what a narcissist is, but PJ described it as a psychological dependency on attention/adulation complete with drug tolerances and seeking behavior and all that poo poo. A lot of the "wow this is groundbreaking" probably stemmed from people being able to grasp a psychological disorder masquerading as a political movement due to how PJ was describing it. Geostomp posted:Since that British islands did not fall into the sea the week after Brexit, all the angry white people here saw was their nationist dream. Their currency value did, though.
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Geostomp posted:Since that British islands did not fall into the sea the week after Brexit, all the angry white people here saw was their nationist dream. It is kind of amazing how even moderate British voices are saying that all the warnings about Brexit were wrong when metaphorically we've only managed to successfully get the plane into the air that we're going to jump out of without a parachute. Nessus posted:This baffled me momentarily, I don't think SCOTUS gets to rule on the foolishness of Englishmen... we had that ruling in 1776 and stare decisis and all that. What happened here, is Brexit going to get cancelled? No, Brexit may well still happen but what has been prevented is the Prime Minister being able to begin the unstoppable process of leaving the EU (once article 50 is invoked there's two years for negotiation and then you're out) without consulting the legislature and winning a vote on it. This hopefully means the PM can't just continue her strategy of saying "we're going to get the best Brexit and we have the best people working on it." without addressing any of the actual issues or giving any kind of explanation of what Britain outside of the EU will look like.
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ReV VAdAUL posted:No, Brexit may well still happen but what has been prevented is the Prime Minister being able to begin the unstoppable process of leaving the EU (once article 50 is invoked there's two years for negotiation and then you're out) without consulting the legislature and winning a vote on it. This hopefully means the PM can't just continue her strategy of saying "we're going to get the best Brexit and we have the best people working on it." without addressing any of the actual issues or giving any kind of explanation of what Britain outside of the EU will look like. Fellows it's looking like there aren't a great many places left to flee with your giant sack of cash. Then again maybe we can trick them all into Rapture and then collapse it.
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Phone posted:Cross posting from c-spam: Lol rt deleted their tweet. Something along the lines of "BREAKING: assange confirms that russia is not behind the hacks"
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Ah correction: The High Court has ruled Parliament has to have a vote on invoking article 50. The government is now appealing to the (British) Supreme Court.
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Trogdos! posted:Lol rt deleted their tweet. Something along the lines of "BREAKING: assange confirms that russia is not behind the hacks"
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FactsAreUseless posted:No! Donald Trump is definitely going to be president! It's happening! You're my favorite poster in this thread
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meristem posted:Honestly, it did astonish me how highly she was valued when studies had been done on the various right-wing phenomena for years (while she seemed to me as if acting as if she was discovering something new). I mean, as in, less her own attitude, more those of the others around. Plain weird. It matters how it was said, and who was saying it.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:You're my favorite poster in this thread
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ReV VAdAUL posted:Ah correction: The High Court has ruled Parliament has to have a vote on invoking article 50. The government is now appealing to the (British) Supreme Court. I'm imagining the Tory leadershits need some kind of deniability on this since a parliament vote would almost certainly go against them and then their idiot voter base would blame them for not building the wall/stopping the boats/entombing the island in a modern mausoleum to their lord and savior Oswald Moseley.
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FactsAreUseless posted:Too bad when Trump is President (next Weds is the day he is president) he will murder me for being Terry Gross IRL (don't tell anyone I am Terry Gross from public radio's Terry Gross Live! Tonight). I work for the FBI and you're preemptively under arrest, Terry
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Flowers For Algeria posted:I work for the FBI and you're preemptively under arrest, Terry
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Flowers For Algeria posted:I work for the FBI and you're preemptively under arrest, Terry *gene simmons unveils federal boobies inspector t-shirt*
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FactsAreUseless posted:Too bad when Trump is President (next Weds is the day he is president) he will murder me for being Terry Gross IRL (don't tell anyone I am Terry Gross from public radio's Terry Gross Live! Tonight). What the gently caress, I thought it was spelled Teri My life is a lie 
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why the gently caress dothey do tracking polls. are they really this hard up on going back to the horse race bullshit
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canepazzo posted:Meanwhile, a FBI source (does anyone NOT have one at this point?) sent me this: I suppose it makes sense that the right does a lot of anti-Arzying that has more to do with wishes than polls. Sarcastr0 fucked around with this message at 12:07 on Nov 3, 2016 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:why the gently caress dothey do tracking polls. are they really this hard up on going back to the horse race bullshit
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Groovelord Neato posted:why the gently caress dothey do tracking polls. are they really this hard up on going back to the horse race bullshit Tracking polls are useful to see any contours in polling before better aggregate polls come out. I mean it's all horse race on some leve but it's slightly dismissive to solely credit tracking polls with that. I mean fundamentally why does public polling even exist when only the vote matters?
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Groovelord Neato posted:why the gently caress dothey do tracking polls. are they really this hard up on going back to the horse race bullshit Tracking polls ensure they have a news story every morning that everyone will want to click on, giving them an opportunity to force the people to view an ad before they can see that delicious, delicious poll.
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Northjayhawk posted:speaking of tracking polls Wait what? Who the hell is voting for Stein at this point? Wasn't she mostly below 2 percent?
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cant cook creole bream posted:Wait what? Who the hell is voting for Stein at this point? Wasn't she mostly below 2 percent?
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cant cook creole bream posted:Wasn't she mostly below 2 percent? Yeah, but only certified organic 2%. She prefers raw milk but it's hard to keep stocked on the trail.
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FactsAreUseless posted:Stein voters, mostly. loving Big Iron Lung lobby.
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