|
Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:A Third New Hampshire Poll has struck the towers: gently caress my life. By far the worst is Sununu +4. Democratic governors are the only thing preventing NH from being Kansas.
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:07
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 2, 2024 03:18 |
|
|
Heh, democrats sure are upset over how HRC is bad, actually. Now to write a paragraph on how these other guys, one who lost and he other who didn't even want to run, would magically be doing better somehow.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:07
|
|
|
comingafteryouall posted:Guys, who would Agent Fox Mulder voted for? Scully would have obviously voted for Clinton, but I honestly don't know about Mulder. Imagine the reception Mulder would get when he shares all his conspiracy theories with him.  These alien abductions have gone too far! Tell me what you need to put a stop to it!
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:08
|
|
|
scary ghost dog posted:what even do we do as a country when our Federal Bureau of Investigation is compromised by white supremacists who spread propaganda and prop up bogus investigations in order to elect a russian puppet despot? We sic the CIA and NSA on them.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:07
|
|
|
emdash posted:What benefit do you imagine comes from trying to convince people of Bernie's superiority? Honest question. I am very sympathetic to that view, but even (or especially) in the context of this dead forum for idiots, it accomplishes nothing except pot-stirring. No one is going to change their mind because of your posts--and if they were going to, what change would you hope to see? it's literally a page from Trump's campaign strategy.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:09
|
|
|
funkymonks posted:gently caress my life. By far the worst is Sununu +4. Democratic governors are the only thing preventing NH from being Kansas. Leon Trotsky 2012 frequently comes in here, half the time with unsourced polls and has deliberately left out pro Clinton results or information in the past. Take what he posts with a mound of salt.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:09
|
|
|
scary ghost dog posted:what even do we do as a country when our Federal Bureau of Investigation is compromised by white supremacists who spread propaganda and prop up bogus investigations in order to elect a russian puppet despot? Honestly, other than the Russia thing this was always what the FBI did. The only difference is the long-established enemies of the FBI, progressives from disenfranchised demographics, are now inside the establishment. The FBI's dirty tricks are more obvious and more shocking when they're turning inward. For all they're doing to Hillary they attacked civil rights activists even worse. They spread propaganda about MLK, they wiretapped everybody to the left of Nixon, they stalked and harassed gay rights activists even as late as the 90s. There's a reason having an FBI file is a badge of honor among activists. The FBI is conservative in the literal sense - they exist to protect the establishment and to attack anyone who threatens it. The fact that we've gotten so far inside the gates that they're reduced to attacking a major party presidential candidate is actually a sign of progress.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:09
|
|
|
Bhaal posted:Trump and I don't think it's close. Otoh isn't Podesta or someone who is super convinced aliens are real and poo poo?
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:09
|
|
|
Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:A Third New Hampshire Poll has struck the towers: I think I've noticed that you don't post links and instead just post a name and then a number. If it's not too much trouble please start linking the poll so I can follow it and thanks~
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:10
|
|
|
Mel Mudkiper posted:Going by Nate corrections No, it was tied after corrections. Sorry to be the shook canepazzo here 
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:11
|
|
|
CommieGIR posted:Putin meddling in US affairs: Yes, please take like loving ted nugent or someone next
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:11
|
|
|
The GIG posted:Heh, democrats sure are upset over how HRC is bad, actually. Now to write a paragraph on how these other guys, one who lost and he other who didn't even want to run, would magically be doing better somehow. Don't forget all the people who didn't run because the entire party endorsed her in 2014. They deserve to lose the election just for that and would be if anyone not named Trump was the GOP nominee.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:11
|
|
|
CascadeBeta posted:Leon Trotsky 2012 frequently comes in here, half the time with unsourced polls and has deliberately left out pro Clinton results or information in the past. Take what he posts with a mound of salt. Thanks I'll postpone my move to Massachusetts a few more days.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:11
|
|
|
I know a little rear end in a top hat canvassing for Trump in NH. We used to have a pretty active group chat about the Pirates & local Pittsburgh politics but I cut off all communication with him when he endorsed the reality television star in the GOP primary. Anyway. That's my post.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:12
|
|
|
tumblr hype man posted:Otoh isn't Podesta or someone who is super convinced aliens are real and poo poo? e: so what I'm saying is, Mulder would vote Hillary because that means Podesta might get enough pull to make it happen.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:11
|
|
|
What are the odds this is just that sample list that was just made up names they had on the ticker during the debates
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:12
|
|
|
Covok posted:I mean, that isn't so bad, really? I think they were just trying to get people to vote for downballot senates and avoid people being like "I can't vote Trump so I can't vote at all." If I was republican, I'd try to avoid that. The only thing I didn't vote for was school board rep,  Tiny Brontosaurus posted:hahaha
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:12
|
|
|
Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Honestly, other than the Russia thing this was always what the FBI did. The only difference is the long-established enemies of the FBI, progressives from disenfranchised demographics, are now inside the establishment. The FBI's dirty tricks are more obvious and more shocking when they're turning inward. For all they're doing to Hillary they attacked civil rights activists even worse. They spread propaganda about MLK, they wiretapped everybody to the left of Nixon, they stalked and harassed gay rights activists even as late as the 90s. There's a reason having an FBI file is a badge of honor among activists. The FBI is conservative in the literal sense - they exist to protect the establishment and to attack anyone who threatens it. The fact that we've gotten so far inside the gates that they're reduced to attacking a major party presidential candidate is actually a sign of progress. Young'uns don't know about COINTELPRO
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:12
|
|
|
tumblr hype man posted:Otoh isn't Podesta or someone who is super convinced aliens are real and poo poo? I mean, I'm kinda of the mind life is somewhere in the [carl sagan nasal voice] buillionz und buillionz of starzzz...
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:13
|
|
|
New Batch of Statewide Polls: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/ California: Clinton +20 Arkansas: Trump +20 Utah: Trump +6 Herbert +33 Lee +33 Colorado: President - Tie (  )Bennet +8 Florida: Clinton +4 Rubio +6
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:13
|
|
|
Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:New Batch of Statewide Polls: Source on these, please?
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:13
|
|
|
Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:New Batch of Statewide Polls: Link
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:13
|
|
|
mcmagic posted:Don't forget all the people who didn't run because the entire party endorsed her in 2014. They deserve to lose the election just for that and would be if anyone not named Trump was the GOP nominee. Seriously, mcmagic, actually answer me: What are you going to do when the next Dem nominee also isn't a white man?
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:14
|
|
|
mcmagic posted:Don't forget all the people who didn't run because the entire party endorsed her in 2014. They deserve to lose the election just for that and would be if anyone not named Trump was the GOP nominee. Lmao the picked her instead of the other guy, those pricks. those fiends!
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:14
|
|
|
Gonna go see Bernie Sanders give a speech in-person in about 20 minutes, I'm stoked!! 
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:14
|
|
|
WeAreTheRomans posted:Young'uns don't know about COINTELPRO The Dollop, which is a pretty great podcast did an episode about COINTELPRO recently. It is well worth a listen: http://thedollop.libsyn.com/214-black-panther-fred-hampton
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:14
|
|
|
CascadeBeta posted:Leon Trotsky 2012 frequently comes in here, half the time with unsourced polls and has deliberately left out pro Clinton results or information in the past. Take what he posts with a mound of salt. https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/11/03/poll-shows-trump-clinton-tied-ayotte-slightly-ahead/XdKxyDKnSLdUJspGUkP0EJ/story.html
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:14
|
|
|
Potato Salad posted:Link I feel like that Colorado one came out yesterday, actually. They're all on RCP.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:15
|
|
|
Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:New Batch of Statewide Polls: I can do this, too. THERE WAS A POLL THAT SHOWED HILLARY WINNING ARIZONA TODAY!!!!!! (she's not going to win Arizona)
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:15
|
|
|
Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Seriously, mcmagic, actually answer me: What are you going to do when the next Dem nominee also isn't a white man? Probably post about how Bernie would be doing better
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:15
|
|
|
Ragnar Homsar posted:Source on these, please? Just updated on RCP. Link is edited into post.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:15
|
|
|
The previous (C+2) Suffolk NH poll was conducted 10/2-10/5. Completely irrelevant in terms of trend to a poll of 10/31-11/2. Could have been T+5 last week and cratering for him since then
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:15
|
|
|
WeAreTheRomans posted:Young'uns don't know about COINTELPRO MLK was a Communist, or nearly so, who criticized white moderate liberals a lot and argued for lessening geopolitical tension with Russia, so it's pretty funny to suggest he would be welcome in the current Democratic coalition considering the ongoing meltdown against every part of that description
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:15
|
|
|
Potato Salad posted:Link Top of the post Welp guess the Republicans were right and the poll numbers meant nothing, here's to 8 orange years
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:16
|
|
|
Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Seriously, mcmagic, actually answer me: What are you going to do when the next Dem nominee also isn't a white man? Crying sexism or racism is the last vestige of people who have no argument. My issues with Hillary Clinton are about her personally, not her sex or her race.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:16
|
|
|
Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Honestly, other than the Russia thing this was always what the FBI did. The only difference is the long-established enemies of the FBI, progressives from disenfranchised demographics, are now inside the establishment. The FBI's dirty tricks are more obvious and more shocking when they're turning inward. For all they're doing to Hillary they attacked civil rights activists even worse. They spread propaganda about MLK, they wiretapped everybody to the left of Nixon, they stalked and harassed gay rights activists even as late as the 90s. There's a reason having an FBI file is a badge of honor among activists. The FBI is conservative in the literal sense - they exist to protect the establishment and to attack anyone who threatens it. The fact that we've gotten so far inside the gates that they're reduced to attacking a major party presidential candidate is actually a sign of progress. Listening to the latest Whistlestop episode, Dickerson makes mention of one FBI investigation referring to associating with homosexuals as "associating with sexual demons", and good god I wish my FBI file described me as a sexual demon.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:16
|
|
|
The tied CO poll has the race at 39-39 with Clinton having a six point edge among those who already voted, flipped for Trump.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:16
|
|
|
Andrast posted:Probably post about how Bernie would be doing better Nah, he'll google "woman democrat" and say they would be the best choice before he actually reads anything about them. mcmagic posted:Crying sexism or racism is the last vestige of people who have no argument. My issues with Hillary Clinton are about her personally, not her sex or her race. It's hard to make an argument when you conveniently ignore posts that actually try to make arguments in favor of whining about how people are being mean to you.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:16
|
|
|
Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Honestly, other than the Russia thing this was always what the FBI did. The only difference is the long-established enemies of the FBI, progressives from disenfranchised demographics, are now inside the establishment. The FBI's dirty tricks are more obvious and more shocking when they're turning inward. For all they're doing to Hillary they attacked civil rights activists even worse. They spread propaganda about MLK, they wiretapped everybody to the left of Nixon, they stalked and harassed gay rights activists even as late as the 90s. There's a reason having an FBI file is a badge of honor among activists. The FBI is conservative in the literal sense - they exist to protect the establishment and to attack anyone who threatens it. The fact that we've gotten so far inside the gates that they're reduced to attacking a major party presidential candidate is actually a sign of progress. woot i guess. the fbi corruption fills in all the missing puzzle pieces throughout the insane narrative of this election too
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:17
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 2, 2024 03:18 |
|
|
ImpAtom posted:Oh? Says who? Please note that even if you believe the Clinton emails were responsible for any change in polls (and many polls have not shown a significant change, something you're ignoring), the emails were literally an entirely manufactured scandal. There is no reason to assume there wouldn't be something bullshit for Bernie Sanders. There's also no reason to inherently assume Sanders would have won the debates, Sanders would have the exact same minority support, Sanders would not have had any health problems (he's older than Clinton and Trump!) or countless other things. What basis would you assume Sanders has any of the same flaws in terms of party corruption that Hillary does? He's an outsider, he's totally unlike most Democrats. It's like the same set of people who are banging the table going "WHERE ARE THE TRUMP EMAILS WIKILEAKS?!?" there aren't any because neither Trump nor Sanders are deeply involved in a widespread political apparatus manipulating poo poo everywhere. Trump has a network of shady business deals everywhere, but Sanders doesn't have that either. Sanders in his last head-to-head polls with 1000+ samples (before he conceded) beats Trump by 10.4 points on average. He would have slaughtered this election wholesale.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2016 20:17
|
|
