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GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Deified Data posted:

Serious question: what can the right throw at Booker and stick that they can't stick to Clinton?

Well, for one thing, Clinton did not join forces with a cabal of Silicon Valley assholes to destroy the Newark public school system & teachers union.

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Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Feral Integral posted:

Well I mean you tend to over-extrapolate based on your personal notions about things:

- all stems are bad people because you met a few stems that were insufferable man-children
- union busting was because white people didnt want black people to have the same benifits, and were willing to give up years and years of hard-earned labor progress because of this
- people that use certain words are immediately written off by you

I mean seriously though

Lol who the gently caress are you coming in with this weak poo poo. Do you think this is my first day catching poo poo from video game addicts with two-inch dicks?

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

National Average is stagnant.

Down in Colorado, Virginia, Utah, and way down in New Hampshire.

Slightly up in Florida and Arizona though.

Utah doesn't matter, ther's one poll in CO and UVA and both of them are pretty suspect. Also not "way down" in NH. Went from +3 to +1/tie-ish and they're not really high quality polls in NH's case.

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.

I'm really shocked by this

Too Shy Guy
Jun 14, 2003


I have destroyed more of your kind than I can count.



mcmagic posted:

Actually we're all moving closer and closer to losing by the hour.

Post a poll, you coward.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

My Linux Rig posted:

I guess that's where the Ghostbusters question came from :frog:

Oh no someone didn't like Ghostbusters it must because the cast is all women!!

Yes. Because I've been posting about Ghostbusters this whole time. WTF are you talking about?

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

My Linux Rig posted:

I guess that's where the Ghostbusters question came from :frog:

Oh no someone didn't like Ghostbusters it must because the cast is all women!!

Live as a wire after a windstorm

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

Celery Jello posted:

To be fair to someone who doesn't really deserve the benefit of the doubt, it's not like you're backing up anything you're shouting, either, unless I missed it somewhere.

I'm pretty sure that mcmagic's probably got a lot of unrealized sexism bouncing around in his head, but I think stating that he definitely does is a bridge too far.

He is a jackass, though.

stone cold
Feb 15, 2014

My Linux Rig posted:

I guess that's where the Ghostbusters question came from :frog:

Oh no someone didn't like Ghostbusters it must because the cast is all women!!

Not everybody who didn't like Ghostbusters is a misogynist MRA, but misogynist MRAs all didn't like Ghostbusters. :colbert:

Feral Integral
Jun 6, 2006

YOSPOS

Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

Lol who the gently caress are you coming in with this weak poo poo. Do you think this is my first day catching poo poo from video game addicts with two-inch dicks?

It certainly seems like it, since you are so angry.

Inferior Third Season
Jan 15, 2005

U-DO Burger posted:

Only five more days until sexism is finally over
And tomorrow is the eight year anniversary of the end of racism. You guys remember racism?

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

mcmagic posted:

Utter and complete horse poo poo. Criticism of someone who is a woman is not the same thing as sexism you wolf crying jackass.

Your criticism of Hillary Clinton begins and ends with "she was attacked by Republicans and dared to think she could still be President because she's 'arrogant.'" This would not be something you would apply to Joe Biden.

sourdough
Apr 30, 2012
Pull up pull uppp!

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

theflyingorc posted:

I'm pretty sure that mcmagic's probably got a lot of unrealized sexism bouncing around in his head, but I think stating that he definitely does is a bridge too far.

He is a jackass, though.

That's incredibly loving stupid and privileged af. Hmm gee he does sexist things, sure, like that's literally the only thing he has done for months and months and months, but I don't think we can just go right out and say he is sexist because of that.

Good thing women don't need your permission to think.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
Can we ban dem primary chat till like 8 pm Est November 8th?

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

People think you can't be sexist unless you're actively saying "women are inferior" just like how you can't be racist unless you're yelling ethnic slurs.

Both of those things run way deeper, this thread should know that.

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

Utah doesn't matter, ther's one poll in CO and UVA and both of them are pretty suspect. Also not "way down" in NH. Went from +3 to +1/tie-ish and they're not really high quality polls in NH's case.

Basically all the polls from major pollsters whose name I recognized made me anti-arzy today.

This week there has been a ton more attention given to polls from small firms I've never heard of.

The last SurveyMonkey had Clinton +9 in NH, by the way.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

ImpAtom posted:

Your criticism of Hillary Clinton begins and ends with "she was attacked by Republicans and dared to think she could still be President because she's 'arrogant.'" This would not be something you would apply to Joe Biden.

Get back to me when Joe Biden has a 59% unfavorable rating.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

Utah doesn't matter, ther's one poll in CO and UVA and both of them are pretty suspect. Also not "way down" in NH. Went from +3 to +1/tie-ish and they're not really high quality polls in NH's case.

RCP Average in New Hampshire went from Clinton 4.7 to Clinton 0.8 in 24 hours.

I'd say that counts as "way down" because it is the single largest 24 hour drop since they started polling this year.

TyrantWD
Nov 6, 2010
Ignore my doomerism, I don't think better things are possible

Fox News don't allow Hannity to talk about internet polls because they don't meet their "journalistic standards", but their two headline news anchors can report on such BS that they need to retract what they said?

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

If Donald Trump were a character in the new Ghostbusters, do you think he would be the Dean of the bad unaccredited school that Melissa McCarthy and Kate McKinnon work at, or do you think he would be the creepy bad guy? I kind of think the Dean.

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

My Linux Rig posted:

I guess that's where the Ghostbusters question came from :frog:

Oh no someone didn't like Ghostbusters it must because the cast is all women!!

Oh god how does that work so well. That exact reply every time and they care so much.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

Shut the gently caress up with this poo poo.

There's no sexism gene, no sexism smoking gun. Beliefs are only the sum of words and deeds. His words are sexist, his deeds are to never post anything but sexism.

Have we actually seen proof positive

I've been reading a baby whining in the corner and having done a *lot* of canvassing I recognize elements of it, but sexism... nothing yet.

Yes, the concept that Hillary somehow has an awful personality is absolute conjecture. Yes, when you can squeeze for details, it turns out the idea Clinton is corrupt for rigging and emails and wall street and podesta and benghazi rests 99% of the time on vague notions someone got from Facebook summaries and out-og-context Wikileaks cherrypicking as opposed to whole and complete research and understanding. That doesn't spell sexism. It is accelerated severely by sexism and I'm certain more Bernouts feel prejudices and fears about themselves and women that they are not consciously aware of yet, but we do not know that for certain in mcmagic's case and its derailing the thread again.

It is pedantic, but I find no post of his by which I can say, "yeah, guy let it slip there" and I am willing to be shown where I have overlooked something.

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

RCP Average in New Hampshire went from Clinton 4.7 to Clinton 0.8 in 24 hours.

I'd say that counts as "way down" because it is the single largest 24 hour drop since they started polling this year.

RCP averages a bunch of terrible poo poo equally. (It was +3 from the last time I saw)

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.

Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

Lol who the gently caress are you coming in with this weak poo poo. Do you think this is my first day catching poo poo from video game addicts with two-inch dicks?

top shelf dick size insult, now call him a cuck

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

ImpAtom posted:

Look, I'll say it again:

I believe Bernie Sanders would have won the general. However I (and a *lot* of people who actually campaigned for Bernie) were never under the impression it would be a sleepwalk. Bernie Sanders has a strong message, good (to me) politics, and a solid record. However socialism is still a boogieman, he is an old man who (for good or ill) is easy to show in a silly light and present as Crazy Loud Old Man Yells At Clouds and while he is an awesome guy he isn't exactly someone who has shown a ton of instant flexibility and ability to respond, which might have made him weak in debates against a crazy-rear end poo poo-spewed like Donald Trump.

I think he would have won. He may have even won by more than Hillary. I can't say because he didn't win. I don't take it for granted that it would have been an easy fight and a lot of Sanders supporters don't either.

There were more attack ads run against Clinton in like 2 ad breaks last night than were run against Bernie through the entire primary.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Crowsbeak posted:

Can we ban dem primary chat till like 8 pm Est November 8th?

Can't we just ban everybody who posts in this thread?

The GIG
Jun 28, 2011

Yeah, I say "Shit" a shit-ton of times. What of it, shithead?

mcmagic posted:

Get back to me when Joe Biden has a 59% unfavorable rating.

Diamond Joe isn't runing and didnt want to.

stone cold
Feb 15, 2014

mcmagic posted:

Get back to me when Joe Biden has a 59% unfavorable rating.

Joe Biden hasn't had to campaign for public office since 2012. What are you talking about??!

Being a surrogate DNE being actively campaigned for and against.

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

That's incredibly loving stupid and privileged af. Hmm gee he does sexist things, sure, like that's literally the only thing he has done for months and months and months, but I don't think we can just go right out and say he is sexist because of that.

Good thing women don't need your permission to think.

I mean, I'm pretty sure he is. It's weird to have such a hateboner for a particular candidate.

Unrelated: Thank you very much for the post about your grandmother, it was one of the best things I've ever read.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
I didn't see the new ghostbusters (I don't see many movies at all anymore, although I'm gonna try to catch Under the Shadow this weekend). Was there a devious EPA guy again? The original was pretty bracingly right wing even aside from its ghastly (heh) gender politics.

NmareBfly
Jul 16, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


I'm probably a little bit sexist. Racist, too. I'd like to not be, though. So if someone says I am I try to re-examine and come to terms with what I did or thought or said. Just saying NO I'M NOT doesn't help me grow. If someone truly believes they are 100% not sexist in any way I have bad news for them.

I'm also from a parallel dimension where Bernie is the nominee. He has been down in the polls since Trump teabagged him during the first debate then gave him a purple nurple in the second. People are in this thread lamenting the fact that we could have had Hillary because she'd have been better able to shine a light on Trump's misogyny. Also she wouldn't have poo poo her pants on live Tv like Bernie did.

My Linux Rig
Mar 27, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 6 years!

stone cold posted:

Not everybody who didn't like Ghostbusters is a misogynist MRA, but misogynist MRAs all didn't like Ghostbusters. :colbert:

Therefore I must be a misogynist mra.

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.

mcmagic posted:

Get back to me when Joe Biden has a 59% unfavorable rating.

he'd probably hit that about 48 hours after he started speaking out loud to a national audience that was paying attention

I love diamond joe as much as the next moron, but come on

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


GalacticAcid posted:

Well, for one thing, Clinton did not join forces with a cabal of Silicon Valley assholes to destroy the Newark public school system & teachers union.

*gets popcorn ready for inevitable screaming meltdown by liberals accusing you of racism*

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Potato Salad posted:

Have we actually seen proof positive

I've been reading a baby whining in the corner and having done a *lot* of canvassing I recognize elements of it, but sexism... nothing yet.

Yes, the concept that Hillary somehow has an awful personality is absolute conjecture. Yes, when you can squeeze for details, it turns out the idea Clinton is corrupt for rigging and emails and wall street and podesta and benghazi rests 99% of the time on vague notions someone got from Facebook summaries and out-og-context Wikileaks cherrypicking as opposed to whole and complete research and understanding. That doesn't spell sexism. It is accelerated severely by sexism and I'm certain more Bernouts feel prejudices and fears about themselves and women that they are not consciously aware of yet, but we do not know that for certain in mcmagic's case and its derailing the thread again.

It is pedantic, but I find no post of his by which I can say, "yeah, guy let it slip there" and I am willing to be shown where I have overlooked something.

Honestly man the fact that you're doing this means you're part of the problem. I hate the term "mansplaining," seriously hate it, it's loving dumb, but this loving act every time a woman identifies something as sexist, jesus loving christ.

Constantly, literally on a daily basis calling a very successful woman a failure and saying she's not as good as the man she defeated is sexism. That is what it looks like. Bigots don't preface their bigoted statements with "As a bigot I..." You have to know what it looks like, and you have to trust the instincts of people who are affected by that poo poo if you aren't.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

exploding mummy posted:

There were more attack ads run against Clinton in like 2 ad breaks last night than were run against Bernie through the entire primary.

Seriously. The only thing Hillary ever even remotely attacked Bernie on were his gun law votes. The Right were literally propping him up, and running pro Bernie ads.


Bernie faced absolutely no opposition.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

RCP averages a bunch of terrible poo poo equally. (It was +3 from the last time I saw)

I agree, but WBUR is a local news station that has been polling NH for decades and The Boston Globe / Suffolk poll is a legitimate poll.

Those are two of the three biggest ones changing the average.

Magres
Jul 14, 2011

Feral Integral posted:

It certainly seems like it, since you are so angry. hysterical

Hey please get out with this nonsense. Mcmagic has been doing this stupid garbage for literal weeks and has never provided an argument other than HILLARY BAD. When someone can't provide a concrete argument other than WOMAN BAD then it's reasonable to call them sexist. It's the same poo poo as when people just go OBAMA BAD and can't point to any real reason (because they don't want to admit that it's because he's black)

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Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

Lol who the gently caress are you coming in with this weak poo poo. Do you think this is my first day catching poo poo from video game addicts with two-inch dicks?

Calm down dude

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