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Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/794310699543658496
more smoke?

https://twitter.com/nateschenkkan/status/794306225773170689
turkey decided to have some fun

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Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Alan Smithee posted:

speaking of economy stupid, friend at a party was saying that Bill Clinton was actually responsible for destroying the middle class and I generally only read magazines where the put pages together and it makes an outline of a dude farting fire, so uh, what's that all about

she identifies as socialist too so

Bill Clinton got elected on the basis of rejecting the legacy of the New Deal and instead claiming he could be Reagan But Better! There are arguments to be had on whether or not he was just as bad or served as a mitigating factor to stem the worst of the damage until Bush II, but I'd argue that dumb white people electing Reagan and committing economic suicide to spite black people destroyed the middle class. Bill didn't do much to save it but that ball was already rolling.

ReV VAdAUL
Oct 3, 2004

I'm WILD about
WILDMAN

Alan Smithee posted:

speaking of economy stupid, friend at a party was saying that Bill Clinton was actually responsible for destroying the middle class and I generally only read magazines where the put pages together and it makes an outline of a dude farting fire, so uh, what's that all about

she identifies as socialist too so

The free trade policy NAFTA destroyed a lot of good blue collar middle class jobs. Clinton also famously repealed a lot of the financial regulation that was implemented after the great depression to prevent it happening again. A decade later it kinda happened again, much to the detriment of the middle class.

Samuel Clemens
Oct 4, 2013

I think we should call the Avengers.

https://twitter.com/MarcACaputo/status/794309382246977540?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Obama had a 21-point lead with Florida Hispanics in 2012.

Cimber
Feb 3, 2014

Bullfrog posted:

Anyone else notice an extreme uptick in Trump supporter anger on social media? I got told I was a "special" person who would "get what was coming" to me once Trump was elected.

The revolution is coming and you librals and godless communists will be first up agains the wall. I love america and will execute myself anyone who dares not love it the way i do, because i am a true american and you are dogshit for voting for a different economic policy.

or something

stone cold
Feb 15, 2014

Lightning Knight posted:

I'd argue that's fundamentally a failure of policy though. Yes there's nothing we can do to force the economy to never slope downwards but basic rear end econ 101 policy would compress the waves significantly. I think capitalism is hosed either way but the only reason it's so utterly hosed right now is because nobody is attempting to mitigate recessions and make back the deficit in booms, the rich are just bleeding the system dry for fun and profit.
A lot of this has to with the GOP stranglehold on the house, as that means there's virtually no usage of fiscal policy. Monetary policy can only cover so much and the fed is really stuck right now because of this :(

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax

What a loving weasel worded sentence. "Related to tenure". Jesus Christ. You can find emails on MY computer related to her tenure as Secretary of state.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Looks like there's absolutely no content in this article, they might as well have made the article text "N/T"

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Dogwood Fleet posted:

Purchasing a Vita and a digital copy of the game is only marginally more expensive than some of the physical game on ebay.

Are you including the price of a Vita memory card?

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

Lightning Knight posted:

I'd argue that's fundamentally a failure of policy though. Yes there's nothing we can do to force the economy to never slope downwards but basic rear end econ 101 policy would compress the waves significantly. I think capitalism is hosed either way but the only reason it's so utterly hosed right now is because nobody is attempting to mitigate recessions and make back the deficit in booms, the rich are just bleeding the system dry for fun and profit.

I don't think you can really stop recessions from happening as a matter of policy (and I'm not sure that it would be a good thing even if you could), but policy can absolutely stop downturns from having such a detrimental effect on people's lives.

That said, I don't think it's strange that there's so much opposition to welfare and safety nets precisely because people don't want to believe that their good fortune is as much a consequence of bigger movements in the economy as their bad fortune. People want to think that they're doing well at this exact moment in time because they earned it, and not because of factors that are largely outside of their control.

Alan Smithee posted:

speaking of economy stupid, friend at a party was saying that Bill Clinton was actually responsible for destroying the middle class and I generally only read magazines where the put pages together and it makes an outline of a dude farting fire, so uh, what's that all about

I'm not going to start arguing that Bill Clinton was horrible, but the Third Way-ism that people loving love to accuse Hillary of was absolutely and legitimately a thing in the 90s. Like, it's hard to put into words just how beat the left was after Reagan/Thatcher. The Democrats had all but surrendered and admitted that fiscal conservatism was The One True Way. There are actually legitimate arguments for why Bill Clinton's administration wasn't great for the economy over the long term.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007


The wording is delightfully vague which means yes, probably nothing.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

stone cold posted:

A lot of this has to with the GOP stranglehold on the house, as that means there's virtually no usage of fiscal policy. Monetary policy can only cover so much and the fed is really stuck right now because of this :(

No argument here. I don't think a consistent fully Democratic government would be amazing in that regard but it wouldn't be the utter shitshow it is now.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

I thought she stole that line from the purple pony.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

ImpAtom posted:

The wording is delightfully vague which means yes, probably nothing.

Yes, but that's not what the media will say and voters will think!

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Paradoxish posted:

I don't think you can really stop recessions from happening as a matter of policy (and I'm not sure that it would be a good thing even if you could), but policy can absolutely stop downturns from having such a detrimental effect on people's lives.

That said, I don't think it's strange that there's so much opposition to welfare and safety nets precisely because people don't want to believe that their good fortune is as much a consequence of bigger movements in the economy as their bad fortune. People want to think that they're doing well at this exact moment in time because they earned it, and not because of factors that are largely outside of their control.

I mean I agree, that's what I was trying to say. Prosperity Gospel is a nasty and stupid propaganda tool and people are hellbent on believing in it.

Teriyaki Koinku
Nov 25, 2008

Bread! Bread! Bread!

Bread! BREAD! BREAD!

Pastrymancy posted:

Tim Kaine oppo bomb dropped from his old roommate

https://twitter.com/amandalitman/status/794266639994912771

:3:

Why are the Democratic Veeps adorable and bad-rear end while the Republican Veeps are reprehensible shitbags? :iiam:

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
Did you guys hear about the respected, liberal NYU assistant professor who's being unfairly punished and censored by the authorities, put on leave and at risk of losing his position simply because of a misunderstood Twitter experiment? Fortunately, the Washington Post gave him space in the opinion section to speak out against this injustice, in a thoughtful piece entitled 'Here’s What Happened When I Challenged the PC Campus Culture at NYU', in which he establishes his liberal credentials, and calmly explains the injustice that threatens him:

quote:

I’m not a conservative, or an alt-righter. I find Donald Trump repugnant. But over the last couple of weeks, I’ve become a campus pariah to some (and a hero, perhaps, to a few) in my nontenured NYU faculty job, thanks to the humorless, Social Justice Warrior-brand of campus culture run amok and a misunderstanding about a Twitter account. Enmeshed in a conspiracy — thinly disguised as sympathy — of my colleagues’ design, I’ve lost my academic freedom and I potentially stand to lose my appointment.
...before convincingly explaining his innocent Twitter 'thought-experiment', cruelly and intentionally misrepresented by the powers that be:

quote:

Around the same time, I created a Twitter account, @antipcnyuprof, complete with Nietzsche avatar and “Deplorable” screen name, as a thought experiment. It allowed me to tweet in the guise of an alt-righter while drawing out the predictable, censorious responses of so-called progressives, self-appointed thought police at NYU and elsewhere who have, in the name of maintaining a culture of civility on campus, policed their little corner of the Twittersphere. Beyond NYU, we just marked a Halloween where, with almost comic predictability, the politically correct campus thought police, like some dystopian pre-crime bureau, have prompted students to report on peers for wearing offensive Halloween attire.
I read to the end of this article waiting for the punchline, but none came.

Help Im Alive
Nov 8, 2009

Bullfrog posted:

Anyone else notice an extreme uptick in Trump supporter anger on social media? I got told I was a "special" person who would "get what was coming" to me once Trump was elected.

I've been really surprised this year at how many hardcore trump supporters (and brexiters too actually) are on twitter

stone cold
Feb 15, 2014

Apraxin posted:

Did you guys hear about the respected, liberal NYU assistant professor who's being unfairly punished and censored by the authorities, put on leave and at risk of losing his position simply because of a misunderstood Twitter experiment? Fortunately, the Washington Post gave him space in the opinion section to speak out against this injustice, in a thoughtful piece entitled 'Here’s What Happened When I Challenged the PC Campus Culture at NYU', in which he establishes his liberal credentials, and calmly explains the injustice that threatens him:

...before convincingly explaining his innocent Twitter 'thought-experiment', cruelly and intentionally misrepresented by the powers that be:

I read to the end of this article waiting for the punchline, but none came.

I pretended to be a bigot, but that's functionally different from actually being a bigot, you see, because

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

And Hispanic turnout is way up this year according to early voting. So Florida can secure the future of the Republic.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

It would be a lot easier to take complaints about the excessive nature of some responses to PC culture seriously if almost every single person who complained about it didn't come across as an rear end in a top hat angry SJWs won't let them be racist.

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

MrBuddyLee posted:

Arizona is very likely to become the new Ohio bellwether in Presidential elections. At least for a few decades, until we get walled off or sold back to Mexico for $10 mil.

If the GOP led Congress have their way, AZ will be sold to Mexico for 100 million, rented at 25 million a year, and then bought back for 200 million. Party of fiscal responsibility, folks!

Dogwood Fleet
Sep 14, 2013

Guy Goodbody posted:

Are you including the price of a Vita memory card?

Luckily it fits along with all two of my save files on my baby sized one you get with the console.

I'd forgotten how terrible the memory card thing is.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

stone cold posted:

I pretended to be a bigot, but that's functionally different from actually being a bigot, you see, because

look how I showed those sjws :smug:

Florida Ghost
Apr 5, 2011

Dick Trauma posted:

My elderly parents are a couple of old lefties and there's literally no one in their neighborhood they can be friends with. Back when Obama was first running for President they were subjected to the horrible comments you'd expect from their idiot old white person neighbors and after two terms of that they don't even try anymore.

IT'S TIME TO PLAY... YOU GUESS THE STATE!

California

James Garfield
May 5, 2012
Am I a manipulative abuser in real life, or do I just roleplay one on the Internet for fun? You decide!

A Winner is Jew posted:

Don't know about a second plant, but IIRC the Fukushima plant that did melt down only did so because the tsunami wiped out the pumps that were cooling the reactor which was a flaw that was fixed in the next design version of the Fukushima reactor a few years later with I believe a gravity system.

The designers estimated a tsunami height that was much lower than the actual tsunami (because they didn't consider geological or historical evidence, their original wave height estimate was based on the 1960 Valdivia earthquake, in Chile). And then they didn't build their seawall high enough to protect against the tsunami they predicted, anyway.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Zerilan posted:

I don't know much about the series (I've played maaaybe an hour into the first) but I've always heard that 3 was really good and went for a fairly innovative narrative style.

The style itself, especially with the three POVs early on, was definitely cool. The ending and wrap up wasn't quite as good.

You should definitely play 1-3 and 5. S1 to get a feel for the series though it's an old PSX game so for someone new to the series it might feel pretty bland or basic. It'll make S2 seem that much better though since the second game is just an improvement in pretty much every way. S3's got a lot of good things, I'm just not a fan of how they ended the story, or the weird pairing combat system they used. Suikoden 4 doesn't exist. You might find information that makes you think otherwise but it doesn't. Don't believe me at your own risk. At the very least playing 2 is highly recommended. Playing Suikoden 1 lets you carry save game info to Suikoden 2 which affects a few things such as recurring character stats and Tir McDohl showing up with Gremio or Camile(?) depending one if you got all 108 characters in S1 before the final dungeon. Tir is reason enough to use a S1 savefile in S2 because he (and soul eater) are still OP as hell. You can also take a Suikoden 2 file in to Suikoden 3.

Suikoden 5 is long.as.gently caress. It's also a solid PS2 era game that went back to a lot of the good in 1/2 while taking a few systems from 3.

There are characters that show up across the games. Very obvious ones being main characters from S1 in S2, and a few major/secondaries in 1/2 that show up in 3...etc. And Georg, a major character in 5, is completely optional in 2.

So yeah, hop on PSN and grab Suikoden 1&2, play through both of them until the election is over. If you want to recruit every single character you're going to need a FAQ or some crazy luck since some characters (Clive in 1, the Squirrels in 2...etc) are kinda absurd.

Yaws
Oct 23, 2013

I regret voting for Hillary now

https://twitter.com/lenadunham/status/794198946063282176

Niton
Oct 21, 2010

Your Lord and Savior has finally arrived!

..got any kibble?

Teriyaki Koinku posted:

Why are the Democratic Veeps adorable and bad-rear end while the Republican Veeps are reprehensible shitbags? :iiam:

The sort of old white dude who doesn't shift hard right in his later years tends to be a pretty awesome dude to begin with.

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


Cimber posted:

So who plans on getting really drunk election night so they can pass out and not deal with the nerve racking, breathless up to the minute election coverage, and wake up the next day with a big hangover to find out who won?

I plan on opening my bottle of single malt Irish whiskey once it becomes apparent that Hillary has won, and only then.

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Apraxin posted:

Did you guys hear about the respected, liberal NYU assistant professor who's being unfairly punished and censored by the authorities, put on leave and at risk of losing his position simply because of a misunderstood Twitter experiment? Fortunately, the Washington Post gave him space in the opinion section to speak out against this injustice, in a thoughtful piece entitled 'Here’s What Happened When I Challenged the PC Campus Culture at NYU', in which he establishes his liberal credentials, and calmly explains the injustice that threatens him:

...before convincingly explaining his innocent Twitter 'thought-experiment', cruelly and intentionally misrepresented by the powers that be:

I read to the end of this article waiting for the punchline, but none came.

This sounds like the guys on Youtube who did some kind of dumbass prank and are shocked to find out that no one found it funny and their going to jail.

Unrelated note to keep my mind off the election. Lemonade by Beyonce is REALLY good.

Farchanter
Jun 15, 2008

greatn posted:

What a loving weasel worded sentence. "Related to tenure". Jesus Christ. You can find emails on MY computer related to her tenure as Secretary of state.

CNN tomorrow: "Hillary Clinton connected to comedy forum previously investigated by FBI for terroristic threats."

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
🔥😱🔥🔫👴🏻
Some of the "bad news" we got from Florida this week was that while Hispanic and black early votes were up at least as high as last election, the white vote was also up high enough that it made the black vote look lower. Did I get that right?

Is there anything to indicate that those were Trump voters who showed up despite his anemic GotV efforts, or if they're white people who actually showed up for Clinton, or is it impossible to tell until the election is over?

ReV VAdAUL
Oct 3, 2004

I'm WILD about
WILDMAN

Farchanter posted:

CNN tomorrow: "Hillary Clinton connected to comedy forum previously investigated by FBI for terroristic threats."

Like the media would throw us the bone of including Comedy in the headline.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

Alan Smithee posted:

I live in a generally liberal area but gently caress if I'm putting a bumper sticker on my car. I only like damage I did to it personally

For all the cars I've owned I've only ever had a single bumpersticker. It was from unamerican.com and it said "DON'T PUKE IN MY CAR"

That's the pinnacle of my automotive political statements.

stone cold
Feb 15, 2014

Alan Smithee posted:

look how I showed those sjws :smug:

ikr? :smug:

In all seriousness though, I do appreciate the term 'SJW' cause it lets me know if someone begins ranting and ragging that their opinions are garbage and I can safely tune them out.

Sarmhan
Nov 1, 2011

freebooter posted:

Wasn't there another nuclear plant called Fukushima 2 or something, just down the coast, which didn't melt down simply because it was built ten years later and had better safety mechanisms?
Yep. Fukushima was also loving ancient. Modern nuclear plants are so much safer than 60's era ones, it's barely comparable. Modern nuclear plants are designed to be self-limiting in the case of catastrophic failure.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Dr Christmas posted:

Some of the "bad news" we got from Florida this week was that while Hispanic and black early votes were up at least as high as last election, the white vote was also up high enough that it made the black vote look lower. Did I get that right?

Is there anything to indicate that those were Trump voters who showed up despite his anemic GotV efforts, or if they're white people who actually showed up for Clinton, or is it impossible to tell until the election is over?

IIRC the white vote is up but the Hispanic vote is WAAAY up.

Dogwood Fleet
Sep 14, 2013

Evil Fluffy posted:

So yeah, hop on PSN and grab Suikoden 1&2, play through both of them until the election is over. If you want to recruit every single character you're going to need a FAQ or some crazy luck since some characters (Clive in 1, the Squirrels in 2...etc) are kinda absurd.

This is the best advice I've heard in awhile. I am going to do this. The FAQ is good for Suikoden II especially, there are a few tricks that you wouldn't think to try.

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Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Farchanter posted:

CNN tomorrow: "Hillary Clinton connected to comedy forum previously investigated by FBI for terroristic threats."

Like the media would resist a pun on our name.

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