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ImpAtom posted:Okay? I've yet to meet a Democratic candidate who is left enough for me so I'm not particularly buying your argument that I secretly want the world to burn in hellfire. Quite a few people on this subforum are to the left of me and many of them are more than willing to support incremental change and are defending Hillary Clinton. You're blaming the far-leftists instead of the specific subset of them who are uncompromising moral-purity-firsters which doesn't make a lot of sense. The latter exists but they don't compromise the entirely of the former. I, for example, am very quite likely further to the left. I can tell you, incremental change is a MOTHERFUCKER. I support Clinton! I support incremental change. I support it, because it's the only kind of change I'll ever get. It is... Maddening, to see years shaved off of your life because lines of treatment were legally impossible to pursue, and have to take ten steps to get around to the place we might otherwise have only had to take one step to get to, but for some obstinate motherfucker standing there, going "Nah. It makes me feel icky. Spend a decade figuring out a work-around so my icky-feeling isn't provoked, instead of a year otherwise." Incremental change is arduous, and painful, and low reward. You may never see results. Your children may never see results. But maybe, fifty years after you're dead, what you've done may have made life a better place for someone else. Incremental change is like picking a fist fight with a brick wall. Sure, you're going to bloody, and break your hands. You will scar yourself, and wound yourself in ways you never thought you'd have to. You may hurt yourself so badly, that you need to find someone else to fist-fight the brick wall. But you heal, and bricks don't. I hate being shackled to incremental change, when I can watch people's lives be destroyed with the stroke of a pen; when I see the immediacy of rewards seemingly present to those who profess obstinacy, hate, and obstruction. That they can have their cake today, their cake tomorrow, and can socially treat me like I'm human dogshit for wanting cake as well is one of the reasons I'm seeking the degree I am. I loving loathe incremental change, and feel that it is the worst kind of cowardly Neville-Chamberlain-Appeasement bullshit. I also, in my bones, believe that the perfect must not be the enemy of the good. That incremental change must be championed and promoted, because it is the only tool that has ever shown itself to be effective against intransigence and recalcitrance. I guess what I'm saying is that I don't have time to worry about moral-purity being first, because I'm too busy getting poo poo done on the ground.
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Nessus posted:Yeah, I remember that time Bernie Sanders shut down the government because the minimum wage was too low. None of those politicians are far left, as they are pretty typical centrists.
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TheGreatGnocchi posted:Haha, Jesus Nate is showing bad signs for Hillary. I know a lot of people are disagreeing with his predictions, but is that simply because it shows Hillary losing momentum and her numbers are unfavorable? Nate was lauded as a God in 2008 and 2012, now people are dismissing him as a hack. I don't know if his models are right, I've only taken an engineering statistics class dealing with traffic flows and failures of structures so I have no real professional input, but goddamn Nate is just tanking Hillary. If she keeps this trajectory, the election will be 50/50 on Nov. 8th. Not trying to be a Debby Downer, but fivethirtyeight used to be a source of comfort, now it's the opposite. I'll trudge back to PEC to feel better haha. He is definitely the lower outlier. It may be possible he's right and everyone else is wrong, but I don't think that is terribly likely to be the case. Also based on reports of early voting, Clinton has basically already won Nevada, or so I have gathered.
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Captain Oblivious posted:It's worth noting that the T&A in Dragon's Crown is gross and beyond the pale even for videogames. I wonder if this forum has come far enough that we could actually have a decent discussion thread on women/minority representations in video games. Video games are a major media form nowadays, and and I think there are some interesting things to be said there, but historically it hasn't worked well on this forum. I remember there being a thread from back when Anita Sarkeesian started her thing, but it was a shitshow and got closed, and then gamergate happened and all discussion of video games got banned in D&D and all discussion of politics got banned in Games. But maybe it's been long enough now that a thread like that could work?
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Wyld Thang posted:None of those politicians are far left, as they are pretty typical centrists. On the spectrum of American politics, yes, they are. This is USPol. Don't use the global political spectrum. Operationalize your variables correctly, or your proof is garbage.
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Thanks to whoever brought up Rex Ryan bufoonery earlier. I was able to get my stupid cousin who is convinced that Clinton is a Moriarty level super criminal to vote for her by comparing her to Belichick and Trump to Rex and asking him if he wanted America to win the Superbowl or not. Football makes people weird.
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Wyld Thang posted:None of those politicians are far left, as they are pretty typical centrists.
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Neo_Crimson posted:I couldn't believe someone was actually saying positive things about GameFAQs in TYOOL 2016 and I checked some old boards I haven't visited in like 10 years. I didn't use the GameFAQs forums prior, but I checked out their forums during the Best Game Ever thing when Undertale took over, and after tentatively posting there a bit because some people seemed alright wound up being driven away by how awful and racist and such some people were, including a really respected member of the community dropping some dogwhistle bullshit in his megapost analyses of each round of the contest. I wouldn't call it 4chan exactly, but it was Not Good; this was before Hillary called Trump supporters "deplorable" but that's still a good way to describe what I saw. Also my SA origin story is that I discovered a Dominions 3 LP here (the "Pantokrator: Fondly Regard Creation" one; it was great but sadly most of its images are lost now), which got me interested in both the site and the game, and eventually registered to do things like play said game here. Branched out somewhat since then, but that's how it started for me.
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VikingofRock posted:I wonder if this forum has come far enough that we could actually have a decent discussion thread on women/minority representations in video games. Video games are a major media form nowadays, and and I think there are some interesting things to be said there, but historically it hasn't worked well on this forum. I remember there being a thread from back when Anita Sarkeesian started her thing, but it was a shitshow and got closed, and then gamergate happened and all discussion of video games got banned in D&D and all discussion of politics got banned in Games. But maybe it's been long enough now that a thread like that could work? Aa much as I'd love to say yes, probably not. Videogames still provoke mentalities of consumer tribalism in most, which makes it hard to discuss themes and ideas.
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Craptacular! posted:So what do you do if you encounter someone who you disagree with but they consider it the next front in the war against racism? I have tried the hardest to not normalize racism my whole life, but if someone says I'm racist if I don't support reparations and won't listen to why I don't, then I'm either going to have that "I'm not racist because..." defensive disaster of a talk that makes things worse, or I walk away thinking "guess I'm a racist now." It's way too late at night to start the fight this could easily become, so pretend I'm just another white dude saying this. Your understanding of what racism is, what being racist is, is childish and a little hysterical and that's why you're having so much trouble understanding this issue from the point of view everyone else in the conversation can see it from. You seem to think the world is full of people chasing you around with a red-hot poker trying to brand an R on your forehead. That "racist" is either something you wholly are or wholly are not, and since racists are monsters and you're pretty sure you're not a monster, it must be those awful anti-racists who are so wrong. Or sexism, any kind of bigotry you're afraid of being accused of. Racism is a vision problem. People who try to talk to you about this are telling you you aren't seeing what is there, and are seeing things that aren't there. A racist might see nonexistent danger in a harmless black neighborhood, yet completely miss the barriers keeping people there from moving to the "safe" white neighborhood. They are telling you you have blinders on, or sometimes a full blindfold, and that makes it easy to trample people. Stop panicking and getting outraged when people alert you to a completely solvable problem. They're only trying to help.
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Nessus posted:OK, so where is a far-left politician who we must roundly condemn and piously repeat that they are Just as Bad? Because I can't think of a single one, while "David Duke as the Republican nominee in 2020" is a plausible scenario.
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Casimir Radon posted:Duke has committed skightly less fraud than Trump has, so he's got that going for him.
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TheGreatGnocchi posted:Haha, Jesus Nate is showing bad signs for Hillary. I know a lot of people are disagreeing with his predictions, but is that simply because it shows Hillary losing momentum and her numbers are unfavorable? Nate was lauded as a God in 2008 and 2012, now people are dismissing him as a hack. I don't know if his models are right, I've only taken an engineering statistics class dealing with traffic flows and failures of structures so I have no real professional input, but goddamn Nate is just tanking Hillary. If she keeps this trajectory, the election will be 50/50 on Nov. 8th. Not trying to be a Debby Downer, but fivethirtyeight used to be a source of comfort, now it's the opposite. I'll trudge back to PEC to feel better haha. No one's denying that Hillary's lost momentum, but the odds that his model gives her right now just don't make sense when you think about it. Hillary's firewall is still there, and we're only four days out from the election. I'd say her actual chances of winning should be extremely high, or at least better than the roughly 65% he's giving. I know he's taking uncertainty and the possibility of polling error into account, but it still seems ridiculous for her numbers to be that low. His model doesn't even factor in that the early vote in Nevada appears to be going well for her. She may have already won the state, in which case the event of New Hampshire flipping to Trump doesn't matter.
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Tom Guycot posted:Holy poo poo, I just looked this up to see. Thats loving mental.  gif is of a "wounded female battle monk".The pose really says it all FAUXTON posted:As far as the card skimmers go, our on-device card payment app pulled fine location coordinates from the phone whenever a payment was entered so not only did we have a fairly precise location but we were able to trace hardware IDs and flash cookies back to before someone went bad and then build out from there. The best ones were the southeast Asian gangs in central CA because they straight didn't give a gently caress. One got busted with a car full of guns and meth, with a loving card printer in the trunk and a thumb drive full of stolen identities/financials. Like rear end in a top hat James Bond meets rear end in a top hat Hunter S Thompson. I left before chip cards became a big thing, but it was amazing how little card fraud there was in Europe, compared to the US. The day they get chip readers at all gas pumps instead of stripe readers is going to be a happy day.
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Captain Invictus posted:Please take note that this Jesus Christ she's wearing a literal chastity belt. 
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Captain Invictus posted:Please take note that this Ew what the gently caress quote:That's
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Captain Invictus posted:Please take note that this Why these people don't make the porn they so clearly want to make is beyond me.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Ew what the gently caress I warned you allllll
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Cthulhumatic posted:So G-Men vs. The Shadow Factory? Who wins, other than the obvious "not the American people?" Actually I think you'll find that, much like aliens versus predator, if the monsters are killing each other, they have less time to forcibly remove the right of real (non intelligence) Americans and other world citizens. Bring on the Alphabet Wars, I say.
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Martha Stewart Undying posted:Why these people don't make the porn they so clearly want to make is beyond me. The game is illustrated by a porn artist. This is not a joke.
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climboutonalimb posted:I agree with this and fully I expect that discussions and critiques of Clinton's flaws will be readily and thoroughly discussed once the election is over. For me at least, anything less than a full throated defense of her is basically playing with fire. Yeah the stakes are too high to give people negative feedback right now. I have been hyping Hillary up as much as possible just because goddamn somebody has too! I voted for Bernie in the primary and I never thought I'd be this much of a cheerleader for her. But gently caress!!!! I can't bend my consciousnesses around the reality of a Trump presidency, I still get shocked when I see lawn signs for him. It's like "oh yeah, he's actually a real presidential candidate, this isn't just a tv show"
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Martha Stewart Undying posted:Why these people don't make the porn they so clearly want to make is beyond me. edit: Geostomp posted:The game is illustrated by a porn artist. This is not a joke.
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Craptacular! posted:So what do you do if you encounter someone who you disagree with but they consider it the next front in the war against racism? I have tried the hardest to not normalize racism my whole life, but if someone says I'm racist if I don't support reparations and won't listen to why I don't, then I'm either going to have that "I'm not racist because..." defensive disaster of a talk that makes things worse, or I walk away thinking "guess I'm a racist now." Well, what do you do if say a small-government Romney voter Republican calls you the real racist for bringing up voter disenfranchisement because "anyone can get an ID, stop coddling black people and assuming they're too lazy/stupid to go to the DMV". You evaluate it and decide whether it's a good argument or whether it's a baseless insult to paper over the lack of a coherent position, right? You don't (I assume) go "well I guess I'm a racist now may as well elect Trump to really get back at this Mitt Romney fella", do you? Like, I don't get the problem. Either the person telling you your views have racist/sexist themes is arguing in good faith, in which case you should consider their arguments and critically reevaluate your positions to decide whether they're right or wrong. Or the person is some aggressive idiot in which case you can just safely write them off, you certainly shouldn't just decide to adopt consciously racist positions because some moron called you one (and ironically prove them right after all).
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Geostomp posted:The game is illustrated by a porn artist. This is not a joke. Sometimes I can't tell if life imitates art or vice versa.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:It's way too late at night to start the fight this could easily become, so pretend I'm just another white dude saying this. Your understanding of what racism is, what being racist is, is childish and a little hysterical and that's why you're having so much trouble understanding this issue from the point of view everyone else in the conversation can see it from. It doesn't get said often enough, but you are a good person, TB, and are doin' the lord's work with explanations such as these.
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Bassetking posted:It doesn't get said often enough, but you are a good person, TB, and are doin' the lord's work with explanations such as these. This means a lot. I know a lot of people don't like me. It's really cool that some people do 
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Martha Stewart Undying posted:Sometimes I can't tell if life imitates art or vice versa. https://www.patreon.com/sakimichan (she gets a lot for her artwork tutorials and guides, but still, gently caress)
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Now on to the more important question: Why do people play porn games. How is that fun. Don't you need both hands to hold the controller.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Now on to the more important question: Why do people play porn games. How is that fun. Don't you need both hands to hold the controller. Crowsbeak posted:Why is Nate so shook anyways? Nessus fucked around with this message at 09:07 on Nov 4, 2016 |
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VikingofRock posted:I wonder if this forum has come far enough that we could actually have a decent discussion thread on women/minority representations in video games. Video games are a major media form nowadays, and and I think there are some interesting things to be said there, but historically it hasn't worked well on this forum. I remember there being a thread from back when Anita Sarkeesian started her thing, but it was a shitshow and got closed, and then gamergate happened and all discussion of video games got banned in D&D and all discussion of politics got banned in Games. But maybe it's been long enough now that a thread like that could work? Non-video game media is barely starting to even entertain such conversations. Video games are easily years after that, and random internet forums decades further.
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Nessus posted:Why do you think controllers started vibrating? I didn't know they had 
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Craptacular! posted:I don't know if it got linked here because there were so many pages this morning, but I find it hilarious that some sharp eyed subscriber to WWE Network watched the old WrestleManias at Trump Plaza and recognized the guy next to Trump as a mobbed-up figure that he claims to have never met. This universe is so poorly written
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Captain Invictus posted:I believe most porn games are specifically designed to be played one-handed, of course. Just leave a paperweight on the spacebar jesus
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Craptacular! posted:I don't know if it got linked here because there were so many pages this morning, but I find it hilarious that some sharp eyed subscriber to WWE Network watched the old WrestleManias at Trump Plaza and recognized the guy next to Trump as a mobbed-up figure that he claims to have never met. IIRC, doesn't he source all of his cement or maybe concrete in Manhattan from the Mob-controlled supplier?
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:I didn't know they had http://www.gamegirladvance.com/2002/10/sex-in-games-rezvibrator.html
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