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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Pon de Bundy posted:

i always see phillipines on bottom!

always!

The Philippines thread in D&D has educated me a great deal about how Filipinos possess the same fundamental combination of superiority and inferiority complexes as everyone else in Asia

Did you know that the Cafe where JK Rowling wrote some of Harry Potter was owned by a Filipino, and therefore the Harry Potter novels are representative of the international success of Filipino culture

Fojar38 fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Nov 4, 2016

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brocked
Oct 25, 2005

All shall love me and despair!

Pon de Bundy posted:

what is the Asian supremacy hierarchy? Japan number 1 ?

TAIWAN NO. 1!!

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Kharnifex posted:

Yeap, of course I made up the figure, but it was something insanely small and the point you have above is what was so 'shocking' about it, they smuggled meat risking fines and rep to save a minuscule amount of cash.

It's not that I don't believe you, its that I am still dumbfounded by it especially so after doing the maths. I just can't get my head around that level of insanity and that's after I have already read Poorly Made In China where they do all sorts of dumb poo poo to cut corners.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

brocked posted:

TAIWAN NO. 1!!

gently caress you motherfuck I gently caress your mom!

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

brocked posted:

TAIWAN NO. 1!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8h9QKf7MjY

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

big time bisexual posted:

WOW! HOT a What Baabhabhiat
Bhai, plz dont bhabhi shame. U wil ruin all are chances. When the Dilly bhabhis come running from air pollution, we will all get many bhabhis. Narthern bhabhis so sweet and wheatish skin.

Pon de Bundy posted:

if china sucks so bad and can't do anything right and the people smell and are gross and smoke all day why do you live there

Grand Fromage posted:

Also on the complaining, a lot of that is an artifact of being on the internet and trying to post things that are entertaining. If I post I had a nice day, my job was okay, I graded a good essay a student wrote about the difficulties of publishing history in China, my lunch was awesome and then I chilled out playing Civ 6, that's the majority of the time but also a boring post nobody gives a gently caress about. A dump truck blowing through a red light and pulling a turn so hard it flips over because the driver doesn't understand physics exists is much more entertaining.
This.

Some word salad and pondering, since it's my day off and I'm letting my food settle before I go out for the day.

My Facebook and emails to my family are like "I had a nice walk today on my day off, took some photos, ate some noodles, and met my friend to talk about stuff." My big highlight is lately I got some yerba mate off Taobao and am jamming on a liter of that every morning. Except for the interactions with people and seeing stupid stuff when I am outside, it's not too alien from whatever normal existence we all tend to have. The dumb stories about women here are something exceptional, but those can be found elsewhere, too. Even the Mongol contacted me like a week after her meltdown before and she's so normal and nice now that there's nothing to say after weeks of her coming over regularly (though she was the one I posted that "Whose hair is this?" interaction last week). Once I get banned on SA, whatever interaction I have with people in this country will be forgotten and in the future just be like "Yep, I met a lot of strange people in China!"

Then I contrast that whenever I am in India and it's more like (and this is normal, everyday real stories):
"Jayesh and I went riding motorcycles the other night and we ate street food and we were so stuffed we couldn't ride home and had to sit at the chai stall for an hour trying to digest. I found a new paan guy that is legit and now I can't tell whose paan is better. That loving camel came back last night and the dogs went apeshit at 1am trying to make him leave and he kicked one. I spent $12 USD at the supermarket and my bags were so loaded that I had to take an auto-rickshaw home. While I was waiting in line, a college-aged kid that was a software engineer wanted an American opinion about iPhone vs. Android for his start-up app company. Dudes are still taking selfies with me without asking. There was another wedding in the neighborhood and I got invited to yet another free feast. The trainers at the gym keep trying (and succeeding) to touch/brush my dick while giving me tips on my form. I made serious eye contact with a guy taking a poo poo on the side of the road." Etc. Etc.

China is really boring compared to India and there's an 80% chance once my time in China is up next year I will be going back to Hindustan for chaats and chats. India's cultural and political scene is infinitely more fascinating and hilarious (even just the news stories to post) than boring CCP face garbage, but there will never be a chance for a good India thread on SA due to no one knowing about it outside those Varanasi dead body river photos and the Muslim rape scandals, and a few backpackers who spent a week there getting ripped off and seeing the horrible tourist traps (or people going for work for a week and getting diarrhea in a tech city). It's a hard nut to crack, and even seasoned veterans go a little mad there after a while.
Our now-defunct family business used to export a lot from India and as a kid I spent time there every year with my dad as he would search for new suppliers. As an adult I kept going because it felt like home in a way, despite seeing how much it changes every time I go. I have nearly three decades of contacts and friends there and it's more personal for me. China doesn't have that at all for me, except people like my boss now who will be a life-long contact and friend.
I've worked in India and it was fun and not as frustrating as doing anything in China. The younger crowd are way more open-minded and really cool and at the same time there is a lot of fascination and and sharing. I can sit for hours and talk politics, religion, hobbies, etc., with most Indians and get a huge variety of opinions and feelings, but if I try that in China it's the same boring canned conversations and "We Chinese" bullshit. If there's ever a gripe, you'll find someone who immediately shares the same feeling and is open to explain about it. There's no "OMG, you hate all of us, don't you? WHY DO YOU COME HERE???" the second you have something to say that goes against the grain. It's more akin to this thread where you can all gripe together and then forget about it.
There's also the satisfaction in knowing that the guy treating you like poo poo or being super lazy is equal-opportunity and is not doing so simply because of your skin color and the "We vs. foreigner" attitude. I'll never get the "You don't understand, we are just different in all ways and you're foreign and not aware of how unique we are" lecture. Plus, doing head wobbling and saying "TK" all day is kinda fun.

China is OK, in my opinion. I don't find it particularly exciting or interesting on a cultural or social level, but it has its quirks, and its ups and downs. China will never give me that "home" feeling that I get in Thailand or India, but that's also just due to personal and family connections. I will always be the outsider in China, regardless of if I marry a local and speak the language, own a business, have hybrids, etc. I'm just on the other side of the China Versus The World ideology taught here and.. LOL, whatever. At least I can leave here and never come back if I don't want to.

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
http://i.imgur.com/r094W5o.mp4

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
"Chinese men don't do that. It is dirty."

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Haier posted:

The younger crowd are way more open-minded and really cool and at the same time there is a lot of fascination and and sharing. I can sit for hours and talk politics, religion, hobbies, etc., with most Indians and get a huge variety of opinions and feelings, but if I try that in China it's the same boring canned conversations and "We Chinese" bullshit

This is one of the most legitimately disheartening things around here. It's so hard to find anyone local you can have a genuine conversation with. Four years in Korea and I probably have... five Korean friends like that? I've been in China a little over two years and I can only think of one. I do have Chinese friends who I can talk to normally but they were all people I met outside of China. The one I know here lived outside China for quite a while and is from a rather persecuted minority so she really is not a fan of this place. Finding a Chinese person who both likes China and is capable of a normal conversation is the white whale I've been chasing.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Grand Fromage posted:

I do have Chinese friends who I can talk to normally but they were all people I met outside of China. The one I know here lived outside China for quite a while and is from a rather persecuted minority so she really is not a fan of this place. Finding a Chinese person who both likes China and is capable of a normal conversation is the white whale I've been chasing.

It sounds like you're describing Stockholm syndrome.

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


Mmmmmonoculture

Even in Hong Kong, it doesn't matter if you are a flower arranger or photographer, ballet teacher or brewer, there is one "creative" box people try to fit into from the fashion they wear to holidays and everything in between. Sure there are variances, like which band in particular they like, but it's a kind of unwritten list you choose options from to define yourself.

Before anyone mentions America or Europe, yes it happens there too but here it's like an American High School film turned up to 11

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Outrail posted:

It sounds like you're describing Stockholm syndrome.

It's a combination of a lot of cultural factors. I'll try to break down the ones I see.

1 - I like talking about politics and very few Chinese people do. This is the easiest one to figure out--what's the point of having political opinions in the PRC? You aren't allowed to do anything with them. It's not a huge surprise that a lot of people just don't have much to say about it.

2 - People are very busy in school. At my school students are in class from 7:30 AM to 10:00 PM every day, including Sunday evening when they arrive for the week. This is the time when a lot of people in other countries develop their hobbies and interests, but Chinese people aren't given any opportunity to do so.

3 - The culture is focused on money to the near total exclusion of anything else. A lot of Chinese people don't know why you would spend time on something not related to finances.

4 - Having deep discussions on a topic usually requires some level of critical thought/background knowledge, and the education system supplies neither of those. Some people are self-motivated learners but plenty aren't, that's true anywhere.

5 - The us vs them mentality is instilled deep from childhood, and a lot of Chinese people can't see the world as anything other than Chinese v Foreign terms. They don't have any background or experience with other ways of viewing things, so everything gets put through the We Chinese and You Foreigners filter, which largely eliminates any real engagement.

The people who don't buy into this also tend to be the people who go abroad, so you meet a lot more "normal" Chinese people outside China.

Let us English
Feb 21, 2004

Actual photo of Let Us English, probably seen here waking his wife up in the morning talking about chemical formulae when all she wants is a hot cup of shhhhh

Haier posted:

From this thread and the Female Rasputin thread, all I can summarize from previous Korea-havers is that the only thing to talk about is alcohol. Does the country suck that much, or are the foreigners there that bored/boring?

Both

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
You've been hyping your imminent ban, Haier - Have you toxxed for Trump out of forums suicide purposes or what?

Vernii
Dec 7, 2006

caberham posted:

I rather stay in Korea than West Lafayette or anywhere in Indiana.

There are a surprising number of Indiana & Purdue goons.

Have you ever gone to that semi-hidden Chinese restaurant in the back of that asian grocery by the Cactus? I love their twice cooked pork and spicy meat dishes. Every time I've gone there with a friend, we've been the only white people there and get some confused stares.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
People won't get our of their way to make friends with expats because they know they will eventually leave or don't want to speak another language

Punk da Bundo
Dec 29, 2006

by FactsAreUseless

Haier posted:

Bhai, plz dont bhabhi shame. U wil ruin all are chances. When the Dilly bhabhis come running from air pollution, we will all get many bhabhis. Narthern bhabhis so sweet and wheatish skin.


This.

Some word salad and pondering, since it's my day off and I'm letting my food settle before I go out for the day.

My Facebook and emails to my family are like "I had a nice walk today on my day off, took some photos, ate some noodles, and met my friend to talk about stuff." My big highlight is lately I got some yerba mate off Taobao and am jamming on a liter of that every morning. Except for the interactions with people and seeing stupid stuff when I am outside, it's not too alien from whatever normal existence we all tend to have. The dumb stories about women here are something exceptional, but those can be found elsewhere, too. Even the Mongol contacted me like a week after her meltdown before and she's so normal and nice now that there's nothing to say after weeks of her coming over regularly (though she was the one I posted that "Whose hair is this?" interaction last week). Once I get banned on SA, whatever interaction I have with people in this country will be forgotten and in the future just be like "Yep, I met a lot of strange people in China!"

Then I contrast that whenever I am in India and it's more like (and this is normal, everyday real stories):
"Jayesh and I went riding motorcycles the other night and we ate street food and we were so stuffed we couldn't ride home and had to sit at the chai stall for an hour trying to digest. I found a new paan guy that is legit and now I can't tell whose paan is better. That loving camel came back last night and the dogs went apeshit at 1am trying to make him leave and he kicked one. I spent $12 USD at the supermarket and my bags were so loaded that I had to take an auto-rickshaw home. While I was waiting in line, a college-aged kid that was a software engineer wanted an American opinion about iPhone vs. Android for his start-up app company. Dudes are still taking selfies with me without asking. There was another wedding in the neighborhood and I got invited to yet another free feast. The trainers at the gym keep trying (and succeeding) to touch/brush my dick while giving me tips on my form. I made serious eye contact with a guy taking a poo poo on the side of the road." Etc. Etc.

China is really boring compared to India and there's an 80% chance once my time in China is up next year I will be going back to Hindustan for chaats and chats. India's cultural and political scene is infinitely more fascinating and hilarious (even just the news stories to post) than boring CCP face garbage, but there will never be a chance for a good India thread on SA due to no one knowing about it outside those Varanasi dead body river photos and the Muslim rape scandals, and a few backpackers who spent a week there getting ripped off and seeing the horrible tourist traps (or people going for work for a week and getting diarrhea in a tech city). It's a hard nut to crack, and even seasoned veterans go a little mad there after a while.
Our now-defunct family business used to export a lot from India and as a kid I spent time there every year with my dad as he would search for new suppliers. As an adult I kept going because it felt like home in a way, despite seeing how much it changes every time I go. I have nearly three decades of contacts and friends there and it's more personal for me. China doesn't have that at all for me, except people like my boss now who will be a life-long contact and friend.
I've worked in India and it was fun and not as frustrating as doing anything in China. The younger crowd are way more open-minded and really cool and at the same time there is a lot of fascination and and sharing. I can sit for hours and talk politics, religion, hobbies, etc., with most Indians and get a huge variety of opinions and feelings, but if I try that in China it's the same boring canned conversations and "We Chinese" bullshit. If there's ever a gripe, you'll find someone who immediately shares the same feeling and is open to explain about it. There's no "OMG, you hate all of us, don't you? WHY DO YOU COME HERE???" the second you have something to say that goes against the grain. It's more akin to this thread where you can all gripe together and then forget about it.
There's also the satisfaction in knowing that the guy treating you like poo poo or being super lazy is equal-opportunity and is not doing so simply because of your skin color and the "We vs. foreigner" attitude. I'll never get the "You don't understand, we are just different in all ways and you're foreign and not aware of how unique we are" lecture. Plus, doing head wobbling and saying "TK" all day is kinda fun.

China is OK, in my opinion. I don't find it particularly exciting or interesting on a cultural or social level, but it has its quirks, and its ups and downs. China will never give me that "home" feeling that I get in Thailand or India, but that's also just due to personal and family connections. I will always be the outsider in China, regardless of if I marry a local and speak the language, own a business, have hybrids, etc. I'm just on the other side of the China Versus The World ideology taught here and.. LOL, whatever. At least I can leave here and never come back if I don't want to.

Yes this is all good but how was your *looks up further in thread* plunging? experiences in india

india doesn't strike me as Good for That

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

Vernii posted:

There are a surprising number of Indiana & Purdue goons.

Have you ever gone to that semi-hidden Chinese restaurant in the back of that asian grocery by the Cactus? I love their twice cooked pork and spicy meat dishes. Every time I've gone there with a friend, we've been the only white people there and get some confused stares.

They don't like any out of towners

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

Fauxtool posted:

For thailand myanmar is the worst even though they have really similar cultures and are genetically identical

They burned Ayuthaya! (In 1757)

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Pon de Bundy posted:

Yes this is all good but how was your *looks up further in thread* plunging? experiences in india

india doesn't strike me as Good for That

That was a great post and I'd honestly like a India.txt thread that probated lolrapegangescorpseturds poo poo.

Maybe 'Post your favorite personal experience in India' would stem the tide of hate?

Edit: Haier's post I mean. Yours is ok I guess.

Punk da Bundo
Dec 29, 2006

by FactsAreUseless

Outrail posted:

That was a great post and I'd honestly like a India.txt thread that probated lolrapegangescorpseturds poo poo.

Maybe 'Post your favorite personal experience in India' would stem the tide of hate?

Edit: Haier's post I mean. Yours is ok I guess.

you cause me to lose face.

Cumslut1895
Feb 18, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Falun Bong Refugee posted:

First worlders cannot resist the intrensic need to exploit countries poorer than their own for their benifit while lambasting them for the very problems their explotation caused in the first place. Most of them lack any self awareness whatsoever.

don't sign your posts

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



people making GBS threads in the street in a country run by communists for almost seventy years is due to western exploitation *nods sagely*

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Phlegmish posted:

people making GBS threads in the street in a country run by communists for almost seventy years is due to western exploitation *nods sagely*

*nods inscrutably

fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010

Phlegmish posted:

people making GBS threads in the street in a country run by communists for almost seventy years is due to western exploitation *nods sagely*

Mao was a puppet backed by the US and UK to destabilize China. After Deng bravely threw off the American shackles things were improving, until the CIA said "nope" and put Xi Jinping in charge.

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

Haier posted:

Bhai, plz dont bhabhi shame.

Infinitely more interesting than China.

Tupperwarez
Apr 4, 2004

"phphphphphphpht"? this is what you're going with?

you sure?

fish and chips and dip posted:

Mao was a puppet backed by the US and UK to destabilize China. After Deng bravely threw off the American shackles things were improving, until the CIA said "nope" and put Xi Jinping in charge.
I can't decide if a Chinese version of InfoWars would be terrible or incredible. I mean, the average Zhou believes some pretty loopy poo poo regarding China's place in the world. Can you even imagine what a Chinese Alex Jones (Ao Lei Jiang?) would crank out?

munce
Oct 23, 2010

Grand Fromage posted:

Korean has perfected fried chicken, yes. Usually Korea fucks up when they take foreign food and mess with it but what they did to fried chicken is beyond magical.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSh6VJYRV-g
korean chicken video

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Falun Bong Refugee posted:

That would be a A+ post in the weed thread and everyone would give you props for keeping it chill.

Nobody likes you.

Falun Bong Refugee
Dec 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

Nobody likes you.

Oh no, a bunch of losers don't like me. This is quite the blow to my self-esteem. I wonder if I will ever recover?

LentThem
Aug 31, 2004

90% Retractible

Falun Bong Refugee posted:

Oh no, a bunch of losers don't like me. This is quite the blow to my self-esteem. I wonder if I will ever recover?

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Falun Bong Refugee posted:

Oh no, a bunch of losers don't like me. This is quite the blow to my self-esteem. I wonder if I will ever recover?

I'm glad you're back, it hasn't been the same around here without you around to relentlessly own us

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Falun Bong Refugee posted:

Oh no, a bunch of losers don't like me. This is quite the blow to my self-esteem. I wonder if I will ever recover?

So why do you constantly associate yourself with said bunch of losers by posting at them in this thread?

Falun Bong Refugee
Dec 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Fojar38 posted:

I'm glad you're back, it hasn't been the same around here without you around to relentlessly own us

There's nothing I've said in this thread thet could humiliate you any further than the things you guys post with actual sincerity. I Just bring attention to them. It's pretty telling how vitroliclly defensive you get about it, as if i touched a nerve of deep seated insecurity.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Falun Bong Refugee posted:

a nerve of deep seated insecurity.

don't sign your posts

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Oh snap! Look at all the Face being lost.

Jimmy Little Balls
Aug 23, 2009
Today I watched a bunch of screaming girls bathe a raccoon.

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse
He's displaying his superiority. Can you guys please stop replying to the master puppeteer?

Let's talk about something pleasant, like enjoying tasty food while not physically being threatened by being in China.

Falun Bong Refugee
Dec 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

don't sign your posts

Your rapier wit cuts me deeply.

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Dec 22, 2004


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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

don't sign your posts

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