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PJOmega
May 5, 2009

Manatee Cannon posted:

think of all the symmetra mains tho

those poor, useless baby sentries

In the 2500s Torbs & Symms still do work. Teams flail when taking steady damage from fragile, immobile sources. It's weird.

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fishing with the fam
Feb 29, 2008

Durr

Papercut posted:

Her left-click also does too much damage for how useful her entire kit is. She's like Tracer with more mobility, more utility, and a better ult.

How do you know how much damage M1 does?

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007

Fenarisk posted:

I didn't see anywhere when she hits live. Do we have to wait for Tuesday?

It sounds like Tuesday she'll be on the PTR but that's not 100% certain, they've just said "as soon as possible after blizzcon"

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



Fenarisk posted:

I didn't see anywhere when she hits live. Do we have to wait for Tuesday?

ptr on tuesday, live ???

If it's a similar time frame to Ana I think it'd be a week from ptr deployment

Thor-Stryker
Nov 11, 2005

Manatee Cannon posted:

think of all the symmetra mains tho

those poor, useless baby sentries

Heres hoping Symmetra shields will give EMP shielding and her turrets will have infrared.

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005

fishing with the fam posted:

How do you know how much damage M1 does?

Watching the stream. Looks pretty easy to one-clip 200 health heroes.

Her healthkit hack is ridiculous. Each one stays hacked for 1:00, which is actually a REALLY long time in game.

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

dangerdoom volvo posted:

"time 2 ruin the game guys" - blizzard

Hack the planet.

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

Papercut posted:

Watching the stream. Looks pretty easy to one-clip 200 health heroes.

Her healthkit hack is ridiculous. Each one stays hacked for 1:00, which is actually a REALLY long time in game.

if a healthkit is hacked, can sombra still use it?

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



Papercut posted:

Watching the stream. Looks pretty easy to one-clip 200 health heroes.

Her healthkit hack is ridiculous. Each one stays hacked for 1:00, which is actually a REALLY long time in game.

What's the respawn time on medkits anyway? 20 seconds? So yeah, a hacked medkit is unusable for enemies up to three times if teammates are grabbing them right as they pop in. That seems a little broken.

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005

Away all Goats posted:

if a healthkit is hacked, can sombra still use it?

Yes, and her hack actually makes them regenerate faster for her team.

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

Papercut posted:

Yes, and her hack actually makes them regenerate faster for her team.
lmao blizzard

Zoness
Jul 24, 2011

Talk to the hand.
Grimey Drawer
does her hack disable passives like double jump too

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



Papercut posted:

Yes, and her hack actually makes them regenerate faster for her team.

wow

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

my mum says im cool

Toilet Rascal
I'm going to hack the very concept of being a good cowboy

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



aside from the medkit brokenness how long does hack disable abilities?

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005
You can see how fast hacked packs regenerate, it's stupid:

https://clips.twitch.tv/unitlost/HelplessSalamanderShibeZ

Knyteguy
Jul 6, 2005

YES to love
NO to shirts


Toilet Rascal

Cowcaster posted:

aside from the medkit brokenness how long does hack disable abilities?

6 seconds I think they said. But you can see ult status and see them through walls for 30 seconds (or around there).

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007

Zoness posted:

does her hack disable passives like double jump too

From what I can tell, no. I saw on stream a guy hack an oblivious Pharah who was still able to use her hover jets while hacked

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



Papercut posted:

You can see how fast hacked packs regenerate, it's stupid:

https://clips.twitch.tv/unitlost/HelplessSalamanderShibeZ

:zenpop:

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Papercut posted:

You can see how fast hacked packs regenerate, it's stupid:

https://clips.twitch.tv/unitlost/HelplessSalamanderShibeZ

How could anyone have thought that was a good idea?

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Hmm. She keeps her momentum in the air when teleporting. Nice.

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005

Andrast posted:

How could anyone have thought that was a good idea?

I think it's illustrative of how little in-house balance testing Blizzard does. Like I try to let these things play out for a bit to see how characters really function in-game, but her overall kit is just absurd.

Help Im Alive
Nov 8, 2009

Maybe the arg went on for 4 months because they had no idea how to balance her

fishing with the fam
Feb 29, 2008

Durr

Papercut posted:

Watching the stream. Looks pretty easy to one-clip 200 health heroes.

Her healthkit hack is ridiculous. Each one stays hacked for 1:00, which is actually a REALLY long time in game.

Gotcha. Can't watch the stream, so I thought there were solid DPS numbers I had not seen.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

my mum says im cool

Toilet Rascal
Help, Sombra just hacked this giant hook I throw at people, and the petrol I drink. Worst of all is my cowboy friend can't do forward rolls anymore.

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012

I feel like trying to hack any of Junkrat's tech should just leave Sombra very confused.

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011
Literally every comp team is going to be Sombra, Zarya, and whatever everyone agrees the counters to Sombra are

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

Civilized Fishbot posted:

Literally every comp team is going to be Sombra, Zarya, and whatever everyone agrees the counters to Sombra are

More Sombras

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



as disgustingly great as she seems i think winston and roadhog, maybe even d.va could still lock her poo poo down pretty quick.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!
It looks like Pharah will be just as useful against Sombra as against Tracer too.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 5 days!
If she hacks Bastion, does it revert him out of turret/tank mode? Stealth will be pretty fun to krump him over and over.

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

There's no way hacking goes live like that.

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007

Panfilo posted:

If she hacks Bastion, does it revert him out of turret/tank mode? Stealth will be pretty fun to krump him over and over.

Yes to turret, no to tank

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Cowcaster posted:

as disgustingly great as she seems i think winston and roadhog, maybe even d.va could still lock her poo poo down pretty quick.

Hmm you're right, probably best to team Sombra up with dudes who can outmaneuver and take out those tanks like Reaper and Widowmaker

oh my god

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005

Panfilo posted:

If she hacks Bastion, does it revert him out of turret/tank mode? Stealth will be pretty fun to krump him over and over.

It seems to lock them into whatever their current state is. So like Lucio can't switch between speed and heal once he's hacked. Assume Bastion would be the same.

Enjoy trying to kill a Sombra who's hacked a big health pack:
https://clips.twitch.tv/unitlost/FunnyHerdBloodTrail

NoEyedSquareGuy
Mar 16, 2009

Just because Liquor's dead, doesn't mean you can just roll this bitch all over town with "The Freedoms."

Cowcaster posted:

as disgustingly great as she seems i think winston and roadhog, maybe even d.va could still lock her poo poo down pretty quick.

200 Health makes for an easy Roadhog instakill combo.

kung fu jive
Jul 2, 2014

SOPHISTICATED DOG SHIT
Sombra, destroying nerds' gaming experience from beyond the game, a bold step forward for emergent gameplay and the next level in the ARG. Bravo Blizzard :golfclap:

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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lol she can contest while invisible

Hughmoris
Apr 21, 2007
Let's go to the abyss!
Sombra can pound sand. Where are my Symmetra buffs? :mad:

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Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 5 days!
I can see the hacking health packs being seriously OP, agreed. I mean I had a lot of silly, overpowered ideas but I never thought "Lets totally screw over Hanzos/genjis/tracers/etc for the most meaningful amount of time in the game. They should just take a look at health pack cycles/map placement, and adjust how long she can shut them down for the enemy.

Thought it'll be interesting to see how it shifts the meta; if your opponents cant heal as much, and your own team can make use of health packs much more, then having 2 healers becomes less critical in a way.

*Boop!* is gonna be fun to spam at people.

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