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spog posted:Don't underestimate the value of getting something done correctly by a good company. Pretty much this, everyone pays for it in the end. Its either up front and known or sometime later and unknown
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scuz posted:(sadbrains post ahead) straight up if your gf is mad at you that you have to cancel your satellite tv because you made the right call and went with the well known company that, while expensive, obviously does good work in order for you and your household to not die in your sleep, then maybe you should either a) talk to her about why it wasnt as bad of an idea since quality expensive work > cheap potentially poo poo work or b) dump her rear end also if she dumps you over this then this should be you rn 
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Nov 4, 2016 17:04
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slidebite posted:Yeah, there is real value to using a reputable company and it's worth extra for some piece of mind. That said, 2x sounds fishy though if they are literally the exact same thing. Is the other company quoting the exact same brand/model of furnace? Any accessories? Oh yeah, this too. Reputable companies don't charge 2x the market price. they quote the market price (plus maybe a little bit more) poo poo companies quote half the market price and then either find lots of extra charges to stick on you, or install the whole thing with string and glue.
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Nov 4, 2016 17:13
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Ya scuz you made the right call even if it was admittedly hastily done. I've never seen a cut rate contractor do a decent job and in my opinion the worst thing you could've done is go with the option that is half what everyone else is asking.
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Nov 4, 2016 17:18
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What if everyone else charges half what they charge because everyone else is garbage? They can't be reputable and also charge that price so idk
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Thanks, guys. I know the work is solid and stuff, but I still feel had and bad. I'm not good at the negotiating table and trust people from the get-go for no reason apart from I wish that everyone were trustworthy, even when they aren't. slidebite posted:Yeah, there is real value to using a reputable company and it's worth extra for some piece of mind. That said, 2x sounds fishy though if they are literally the exact same thing. Is the other company quoting the exact same brand/model of furnace? Any accessories?
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Nov 4, 2016 17:29
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scuz posted:That's one of the problems is that I can't find a price on my exact furnace after doing google searches until I get sad and stop. They also didn't provide an itemized receipt for the work, so I'm calling them to get one. I should also point out that the install comes with a bumper-to-bumper 7 year warranty so anything that goes wrong or whatever is covered. The lowest price I could find wasn't a direct quote from a company, but it was the same brand and the price to buy the furnace and get it installed was about 2/3s of what I paid. You're just going to need to ride them like a pony on the warranty until you get that money back.
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Nov 4, 2016 17:32
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As an HVAC tech, I'll tell you b that the install is the most critical part of making sure the unit runs well and lasts a long time, so you want to make sure it's done right. Even if it costs extra, it's worth it to make sure you're getting quality work. BTW If you'd like I can call Carrier and get a quote for said furnace. Though that'll probably make you more sad.
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ExplodingSims posted:As an HVAC tech, I'll tell you b that the install is the most critical part of making sure the unit runs well and lasts a long time, so you want to make sure it's done right. Even if it costs extra, it's worth it to make sure you're getting quality work.  The brand appears to be keeping its price levels away from prying eyes, but its efficiency is 96%, which I guess is pretty good. For now, the price of DirecTV is about the same as the payments for the furnace, so it's swapping something I barely use (the TV) for something that will keep us and our cats warm and alive (furnace). That's making me freak out less, which is nice.
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scuz posted:Went to bed last night and when I woke up it was horrible since my lovely decisions still exist and she's still mad. If she seriously dumps you over this, good loving riddance.
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ExplodingSims posted:As an HVAC tech, I'll tell you b that the install is the most critical part of making sure the unit runs well and lasts a long time, so you want to make sure it's done right. Even if it costs extra, it's worth it to make sure you're getting quality work. I didn't know you were an HVAC tech in FL! I got a lot of questions for you but you don't have pm's 
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scuz posted:I should also point out that the install comes with a bumper-to-bumper 7 year warranty so anything that goes wrong or whatever is covered. The lowest price I could find wasn't a direct quote from a company, but it was the same brand and the price to buy the furnace and get it installed was about 2/3s of what I paid. Hang on: your lowest quote was 2/3rds of what you actually paid? i.e. you only paid 50% more than the cheapest price you could find, not double. And it wasn't even a real quote? I'll bet that if you got a real like-for-like quote, you have paid less than 20% more than any other quote from a real company and I'll bet they wouldn't have the same reputation for quality work or a 7 year warranty that they stand behind. I don't think you hosed up here.
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Applebees Appetizer posted:I didn't know you were an HVAC tech in FL! I got a lot of questions for you but you don't have pm's I'll answer what I can for you. I try to stay active in the HVAC thread, but if you want direct answers email me at Explodingsims2@gmail.com
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ExplodingSims posted:I'll answer what I can for you. I try to stay active in the HVAC thread, but if you want direct answers email me at Why does my furnace sound like a quiet train whistle in half of my house? Oh, btw, I installed my own furnace and ductwork while knowing very little on the subject.
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Nov 4, 2016 17:54
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I'm sorry to tell you this but you've got ghost trains in your ductwork. You're gonna need to call a removal service for that. 
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keykey posted:If she seriously dumps you over this, good loving riddance.
 spog posted:Hang on: your lowest quote was 2/3rds of what you actually paid? i.e. you only paid 50% more than the cheapest price you could find, not double.  I hope you're right. I'm gonna see how the lady's feeling this afternoon when I get back from my second job and see what's up. That reminds me, I have a few updates to throw at my definition-of-unqualified-dude-working-at-a-flat-rate-garage thread...
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scuz posted:Yeah, I'm worried about finding out the price of the furnace wait you're making payments on the furnace? you need to resurrect your BFC thread
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BraveUlysses posted:wait you're making payments on the furnace? you need to resurrect your BFC thread
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No shame in overpaying some for quality parts and labor, especially when in a bind. Not to be overly dramatic but a safe working furnace can be a matter of life or death. The old saying goes Good, Cheap, Fast, pick two
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Sorry scuz, I can't blow rainbows up your rear end like a lot of others here. Just because it's more expensive and well-known doesn't mean that the product is good. When I bought a new HVAC unit for my old house, it wasn't done in a time of crisis, so I had time to shop and found prices ranging from $6k-9k for apples-to-apples spec (as much as possible). Please tell us that you at least bought a good brand name unit that will have value at resale? CharlesM posted:Huh, I guess a Chinese knock-off Jeep parts company that's cloning products had the gall to exhibit at SEMA where the original company was showing too. Is there any info out there about what the specific products shown were? It takes some serious balls to knock off a company's design and show it at SEMA! meatpimp fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Nov 4, 2016 |
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CharlesM posted:Huh, I guess a Chinese knock-off Jeep parts company that's cloning products had the gall to exhibit at SEMA where the original company was showing too. As the old tagline had it, "the quality remains long after the price is forgotten". If they really are a good company that does good work, sod it, spend the money. When I got a new boiler (water heater), it was 2-3x what I could have got one for (and that's after getting it for lower than wholesale price, because I knew a guy who worked in the same industrial group), but having spent the previous few years having to fix one thing or another with a cheap crap one... No. Get it done right.
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scuz posted:The whole story is that I've made some pretty questionable decisions over the course of our ~6 years of dating and this is just the latest. Well, don't take this the wrong way, but if she did leave because of this it's because the relationship in its current dating form has been stretched over 6 years. At some point you have to figure out if you're in or out. It takes different people different amounts of time, but she's a saint for sticking around for 6 years in the going out game.
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keykey posted:Well, don't take this the wrong way, but if she did leave because of this it's because the relationship in its current dating form has been stretched over 6 years. At some point you have to figure out if you're in or out. It takes different people different amounts of time, but she's a saint for sticking around for 6 years in the going out game.
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funny Star Wars parody posted:you should put a ring on it Perhaps wait for the furnace thing to blow over first.
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Well not everyone is good at finding deals. If she thinks you're doing a poor job at it, then she shouldn't expect you to keep on being the one to make those decisions. She can shop for a hvac contractor same as you can.
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I'm gonna wait to see how the furnace thing shakes out. Besides, she hates jewelry. e: f, b. This turned out to be quite the expansive topic...
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1500quidporsche posted:Perhaps wait for the furnace thing to blow over first. sometimes u need to hail mary or in this case hail wifey
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ExplodingSims posted:I'll answer what I can for you. I try to stay active in the HVAC thread, but if you want direct answers email me at Email sent. Will appreciate all the info I can get.
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It's a rare occasion and I wanna order junk food. But Domino's doesn't recognise my address. One door to the left and two doors to the right are fine, but me and my neighbour are screwed I guess.
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at a bare minimum you should always get 2-3 quotes for contractor work, especially when quotes are FREE.
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scuz posted:Yeah, I'm worried about finding out the price of the furnace Ugh I need a new furnace. I'm hoping I can limp it along until next year. I don't want to spend like 6 grand immediately. I also need a new roof, its starting to leak. The quotes I got were for about 12 grand. And the leech field in my septic system has failed, the county won't issue permits to repair it anymore, only to hook up to city sewage, which is gonna be like 15 grand. Its gonna have to a home equity loan, I just don't have like 30 grand sitting around. Thanks Dad for this loving house. BraveUlysses posted:at a bare minimum you should always get 2-3 quotes for contractor work, especially when quotes are FREE. I've only gotten 1 quote so far for each, but I've been calling other companies to get more. Edit: This is why I haven't done anything on my project cars. Oh yeah, forgot in addition to all this my washing machine is being recalled too. alternate.eago fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Nov 4, 2016 |
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Just got an update on this guy's legal problems: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8HZDm8BmbE As of 1 hour ago "The honorable Judge Sam Glasscock just issued his opinion denying all further claims against Williams." The good guys won!
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wallaka posted:The good guys won! Does the US have the thing that the UK has, where perpetual troublemakers can actually be barred from raising legal proceedings against anyone without initial review/permission to say they may?
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InitialDave posted:Good news! I don't know that that would pass muster here, but you can be cited for contempt of court if you piss the judge off enough by wasting the court's time, certainly. Also, I know I'm apparently 12 but... Judge Glasscock? Seriously? 
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keykey posted:... she's a saint for sticking around for 6 years in the going out game. I think that's a hilarious and rather old-fashioned stance to take. Other than tax benefits, marriage is positive in what way (over simply being "together for a long period of time")? EDIT; Actually, naw. I usually just slap some poo poo out there like that to throw my opinion into the ring so to speak, but this time I'm just gonna let it flow. What the gently caress do you mean "she's a saint"? Marriage isn't a reward women get because they're putting up with a man's poo poo for a long period of time. It's not a prize at the end of the trial, not a guarantee they'll be "together forever". It's also NOT REQUIRED in LTRs. Marriage is (supposed to be) an announced commitment between to people that they have a long-term relationship they don't plan on ending. And if Scuz hasn't married his girlfriend yet, she's not a "saint". You don't know her, you don't know him. COULD BE she doesn't want to get married - could be, HE doesn't want to get married. It's not really any of your business. She's not a better person for not pressuring him into it yet (assuming he doesn't want to); that would actually make her an overbearing nag and generally not someone to marry. He's not a worse person for not having done it yet (assuming she wants to); that would make him a weak-willed pushover with no other goals in life. The Prong Song fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Nov 4, 2016 |
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InitialDave posted:Good news! They can't raise any more trouble against this one guy, that's as far as it goes.
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Magnus Praeda posted:I don't know that that would pass muster here, but you can be cited for contempt of court if you piss the judge off enough by wasting the court's time, certainly. http://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/vexlit.pdf
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funny Star Wars parody posted:sometimes u need to hail mary or in this case hail wifey Magnus Praeda posted:Also, I know I'm apparently 12 but... Judge Glasscock? Seriously? scuz don't overthink it too much man. At worst you just simply paid tuition to the university of life. At best you got a quality job done that will no longer represent a problem. Just be glad that if you did make an error there weren't too many 0's stuck on the end of it. Above all it beats being dead from carbon monoxide.
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