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AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

If the complaining going on in this thread is indicative of the complaining going on in Reddit or the Blizzforums based on footage of a guy schooling a bunch of newbies then what are the chances of us seeing Sombroke getting a day 1 nerf?

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Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



Considering the hack description on the website makes no mention whatsoever of the fast respawn thing I wouldn't be surprised if that's the first thing into the woodchipper. Next on my wild theory list would probably be only one medkit hacked at a time.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Winston was really angry but then he got hacked and wasn't.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
Why does the teleport cooldown after just 6 seconds

Why is that ok

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012

Fojar38 posted:

Winston was really angry but then he got hacked and wasn't.

Genji got hacked and forgot how to use a sword.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬

Fojar38 posted:

Winston was really angry but then he got hacked and wasn't.

I can't wait to see the fanart comics for this.

"HEROES NEVER DIE"
"oh wait I guess they did that time"

Even better if there's some sort of game show Price is Right 'lose' jingle when you try to activate your ult, or some :smug: quote Sombra says based on the ult trying to get activated
:v: die! die! die!
:smug: nope! nope! nope!

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Let's make the Spy from TF2 but instead of disguising they get a machine gun and can teleport around while invisible and be invisible for like half the match

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

TheKingofSprings posted:

Why does the teleport cooldown after just 6 seconds

Why is that ok

Why would it not be? Good mobility options are good for the game.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Rhonne posted:

Genji got hacked and forgot how to use a sword.

Genji at least sort of makes sense because he's a cyborg but there isn't much excuse for Roadhog, Junkrat, and McCree

edit: Hanzo got hacked and can no longer control the dragons

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

Why would it not be? Good mobility options are good for the game.

Because she already looks to be a pushed character as it is and that compares favourably to most current attack classes

Like maybe her machine gun actually doesn't do great damage or there's a balance factor that isn't inherently obvious but she seems really strong as she is right now

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Soldier 76 got hacked and so he can't run anymore

Knyteguy
Jul 6, 2005

YES to love
NO to shirts


Toilet Rascal

Papercut posted:

It seems to lock them into whatever their current state is. So like Lucio can't switch between speed and heal once he's hacked. Assume Bastion would be the same.

Enjoy trying to kill a Sombra who's hacked a big health pack:
https://clips.twitch.tv/unitlost/FunnyHerdBloodTrail

This is a great idea. This will mean a lovely offensive hero that are always in games can actually function as a semi-healer.

Also it's probably not a good idea to try to kill Sombra with chip shot damage near a large health pack.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

TheKingofSprings posted:

Because she already looks to be a pushed character as it is and that compares favourably to most current attack classes

Goons are loving awful at determining if a character is actually "pushed." Wait six months and then see what kind of impact she's made.

Also, even if she is broken as a whole, a 6-second cooldown on a mobility skill is probably the least worrisome thing about her design.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Modest Mouse cover band posted:

This is a great idea. This will mean a lovely offensive hero that are always in games can actually function as a semi-healer.

Also it's probably not a good idea to try to kill Sombra with chip shot damage near a large health pack.

Play Junkrat and put traps down on healthpacks

Junkrat got hacked and can't put bear traps on the ground anymore

Zoness
Jul 24, 2011

Talk to the hand.
Grimey Drawer

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

Goons are loving awful at determining if a character is actually "pushed." Wait six months and then see what kind of impact she's made.

Also, even if she is broken as a whole, a 6-second cooldown on a mobility skill is probably the least worrisome thing about her design.

actually I think the mobility skill is probably the glue that holds her kit together

Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007

Cowcaster posted:

i'm playing the world's smallest violin for torbjorn mains

Oh poo poo another counter to my turret, so that's everyone besides Lucio.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬
*Roadhog staring at his hook with a baffled expression*

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


Everyone can get hacked because of nanomachines, son

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!
They just revealed Oasis. An in development KOTH map with jump pads. It's due for PTR some time in December. Release 2017.

Supercar Gautier
Jun 10, 2006

For some reason the website doesn't mention this so there hasn't been much hay made of it, but on top of everything else in her kit, Sombra also gets a passive wallhack on enemies under 50% health.

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

Duck and Cover posted:

Oh poo poo another counter to my turret, so that's everyone besides Lucio.

Maybe learn to play a different character then. I hear Symmetra's getting a rework soon.

Zanael
Jan 30, 2007

Finn 3:16 says I just licorice
whipped your peppermint ass
Having watched a lot of LoL over the last years it's really weird to see DOA and Montecristo on the casting table of an OW tournament at blizzcon.
Also, :france:

JackDarko
Sep 30, 2009

"Amala, I've got a chainsaw on my arm. I'll be fine."
Her hacking stops if she gets hit she can't hack turrets solo.

SHAOLIN FUCKFIEND
Jan 21, 2008

hmm i think shes gonna be pretty healthy for the game actually, which is amazing since shes a loving stealth offense character

Poopy Palpy
Jun 10, 2000

Im da fwiggin Poopy Palpy XD

Fried Watermelon posted:

Everyone can get hacked because of nanomachines, son

Nothing in Overwatch uses loving wheels, good luck finding anything that doesn't have a computer on it.

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



Kai Tave posted:

Maybe learn to play a different character then. I hear Symmetra's getting a rework soon.

he's pretty much got all his chips in the "play torbjorn and only torbjorn regardless of anything and bitch and moan about how awful it is all the time" pot he can't cash out now

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


I hope the next hero is the pyro

Zoness
Jul 24, 2011

Talk to the hand.
Grimey Drawer
I think we really need the demo man actually.

EMC
Aug 17, 2004

Sombra looks pretty awesome, her movement is actually the coolest looking thing to me - love the verticality of her teleport. For all her little abilities it looks balanced by the fact her weapon isn't overly powerful.

People are also real bad at picking what is OP or not, both Ana and Zarya were thought of as garbage tier and now both are getting nerfs

slydingdoor
Oct 26, 2010

Are you in or are you out?

Panfilo posted:

I can't wait to see the fanart comics for this.

"HEROES NEVER DIE"
"oh wait I guess they did that time"

Even better if there's some sort of game show Price is Right 'lose' jingle when you try to activate your ult, or some :smug: quote Sombra says based on the ult trying to get activated
:v: die! die! die!
:smug: nope! nope! nope!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfiQYRn7fBg

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
She can still be hurt while invis snd that breaks invis right?

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Sombra hacks the payload, either freezes it in place or makes it uncontestable

Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007

Kai Tave posted:

Maybe learn to play a different character then. I hear Symmetra's getting a rework soon.

Learn? You seem to have the mistaken belief that there is much to learn about any of the heroes. Shame the translocator has a cool down I really liked in in Unreal Tournament.

Cowcaster posted:

he's pretty much got all his chips in the "play torbjorn and only torbjorn regardless of anything and bitch and moan about how awful it is all the time" pot he can't cash out now

I enjoy the concept of splitting strength between my turret and myself. Blizzard's approach is heavily skewed towards Torb's rivet gun, while TF2s approach was more balanced (well it depended on your loadout could lean towards the turret). If you're going to have a turret class don't go through every effort to make the turret bad (it does do enough damage ... well sort of). It hardly even serves as area denial which is pretty ridiculous.

Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Nov 4, 2016

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007

Jastiger posted:

She can still be hurt while invis snd that breaks invis right?

yes, it does

Avalerion
Oct 19, 2012

Folks in the other thread are saying her hacking gets interrupted if she takes damage during the attempt.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Kenshin posted:

yes, it does

Soldier 76's ult also ignores it

Does Widow's ult go through it?

JackDarko
Sep 30, 2009

"Amala, I've got a chainsaw on my arm. I'll be fine."
I just said that and yes her hacking is not as good as you think it is. It breaks her invis and damage stops it. The health kit hack is the biggest game changer she has imo.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Papercut posted:

Her left-click also does too much damage for how useful her entire kit is. She's like Tracer with more mobility, more utility, and a better ult.

Yeah definitely seems like Tracer Prime.

Also someone instalocking Junkrat even though there was a brand new character available is about the most Overwatch thing ever.

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

Duck and Cover posted:

Learn? You seem to have the mistaken belief that there is much to learn about any of the heroes.

Well then you shouldn't have any problems at all then, glad we could clear that up.

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RC Cola
Aug 1, 2011

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
Any new skins or anything?

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