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EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

Wait are they adding hero limits to QP?

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AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Thor-Stryker posted:

loving moba people.

Disgusting stuff.

strong bird
May 12, 2009

Thor-Stryker posted:

There was life before mobas, all of these skills have existed before then.








loving moba people.

Prove it

KoB
May 1, 2009

Dota took blink from Warcraft 3 you dingus

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007

KoB posted:

Dota took blink from Warcraft 3 you dingus

Warcraft stole Blink from D&D's Dimension Door

Dr Cheeto
Mar 2, 2013
Wretched Harp
Actually the first people who implemented a global silence were librarians

strong bird
May 12, 2009

KoB posted:

Dota took blink from Warcraft 3 you dingus

Two wrongs don't make a right, dude.

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005

The earliest recorded story of a "matter transmitter" was Edward Page Mitchell's "The Man Without a Body" in 1877.

One ancient source that attributes a special helmet [cap of invisibility] to the ruler of the underworld is the Bibliotheca (2nd/1st century BC), in which the Uranian Cyclops give Zeus the ligtningbolt, Poseidon the trident, and a helmet (kyneê) to Hades in their war against the Titans.

Laranda was famous for both beauty and loquacity (a trait her parents attempted to curb). She was incapable of keeping secrets, and so revealed to Jupiter's wife Juno his affair with Juturna (Larunda's fellow nymph, and the wife of Janus). For betraying his trust, Jupiter cut out Lara's tongue and ordered Mercury, the psychopomp, to conduct her to Avernus, the gateway to the Underworld and realm of Pluto.

Zanael
Jan 30, 2007

Finn 3:16 says I just licorice
whipped your peppermint ass

EmmyOk posted:

Wait are they adding hero limits to QP?
Looks like so, because the new arcade mode will feature a 6v6 no limit brawl for disgusting people who enjoy hero stacking.
All in all, I wouldn't mind a 2 stack limit in QP because it should still be the no tryhard mode, and it'd be easier for hero switching, but hey :shrug:

black.lion
Apr 1, 2004




For if he like a madman lived,
At least he like a wise one died.

Papercut posted:

Bibliotheca

you can't fool me this is a library

how does hack work? is it aoe/aimed/instant/range/cd?

Mo_Steel
Mar 7, 2008

Let's Clock Into The Sunset Together

Fun Shoe
I wonder if Sombra's hack locks a Bastion into whatever mode he's in for the duration, or does it kick him out of deployed turret mode into regular walking mode?

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
"good riddance?"

are they actually doing it, i thought people were just speculating and whining

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Mo_Steel posted:

I wonder if Sombra's hack locks a Bastion into whatever mode he's in, or does it kick him our of deployed turret mode?

It locks Lucio into whatever song he's currently blasting until it wears off, so my educated guess is that it would lock Bastion into whatever mode he's in when he gets his megabits hacks.

edit: awww yiss.

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005

black.lion posted:

you can't fool me this is a library

how does hack work? is it aoe/aimed/instant/range/cd?

Her regular hack is a relatively short range timed thing. Range looks similar to Symmetra's M1, and hacks things in maybe 2 seconds? It's not instant but not super long.

Her ult is a big AoE hack, it's line of sight I think, around her.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Mo_Steel posted:

I wonder if Sombra's hack locks a Bastion into whatever mode he's in for the duration, or does it kick him out of deployed turret mode into regular walking mode?

Streamer I was watching says it locks him into the mode he's in.

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




I just realized: that clincher at the end with Zarya seemingly being ordered to hunt down Sombra is probably gonna end badly, since Sombra looks like she'll be a real hard counter to our favorite Russian.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Papercut posted:

Hero stacking was a huge mistake and QP would be hugely improved by eliminating it.

The fact that Sombra gets wall hacks for anyone under 50% HP seems like a totally unnecessary passive.

I probably won't play ranked again once QP gets 1HL. All it'll have going for it are longer matches with less downtime, which is nice, but doesn't make up for the unchill chat.

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

You can't counter being hugged like big, fuzzy Siberian bear.

kung fu jive
Jul 2, 2014

SOPHISTICATED DOG SHIT
Sombra is OP. The changes to game modes are dumb. This game is in the shitter. I've already uninstalled. Time for the greener pastures of Team Fortress 2 - a hat simulator by Valve Software.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Regalingualius posted:

I just realized: that clincher at the end with Zarya seemingly being ordered to hunt down Sombra is probably gonna end badly, since Sombra looks like she'll be a real hard counter to our favorite Russian.
As a Zarya main I begrudgingly accept this inevitable turn of events.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

IS there a list of the game changes somewhere? I've been busy all day and missed it.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Mo_Steel posted:

I wonder if Sombra's hack locks a Bastion into whatever mode he's in for the duration, or does it kick him out of deployed turret mode into regular walking mode?

It half-kicks him out; he's locked into turret form but his legs still work

JackDarko
Sep 30, 2009

"Amala, I've got a chainsaw on my arm. I'll be fine."
I don't think her ultimate is line of sight. Stylosa used it and it didn't remove Lucio's barrier from a Reaper that was about 15M away.

Zanael
Jan 30, 2007

Finn 3:16 says I just licorice
whipped your peppermint ass
Praise our Korean Overlords who crushed NA in a really quick match.

zonar
Jan 4, 2012

That was a BAD business decision!

JackDarko posted:

I don't think her ultimate is line of sight. Stylosa used it and it didn't remove Lucio's barrier from a Reaper that was about 15M away.
I think it's line-of-sight in the same way that D.Va's ult is. It has a finite range for its effect, but if you're hiding behind anything, you won't get scraped. Hard to say if you'll be able to hide behind a telephone pole like you can against D.Va, but there'll definitely be some cool mind-games in ducking behind cover before she launches it so you can surprise her with your abilities.

Is it confirmed that it takes shields off? I know it said somewhere that it destroys shields, but the examples seem to be Reinhardt's shield and Zarya's bubbles, not shields (the HP units).

sterster
Jun 19, 2006
nothing
Fun Shoe
Going to have to keep these in the back pocket next time.
Zarya ult - https://clips.twitch.tv/blizzard/LovelyWombatANELE
Daed eye - https://clips.twitch.tv/blizzard/EnergeticReindeerBigBrother

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib
Re: quickplay and 1HL, here is a Kotaku article that outlines how the new Arcade mode is going to work. Quickplay will have 1HL by default but one of the Arcade gamemodes is "6v6 no hero limits" so if you really want to play old-style QP you can continue to do so.

LITERALLY MY FETISH
Nov 11, 2010


Raise Chris Coons' taxes so that we can have Medicare for All.

strong bird posted:

Alright lets break down the new girls spells and see where they stole them from wholesale.

Spell 1: The hack spell. Well folks this is just a silence. Pretty bargain basement stuff here. Cant really say they stole this spell from anywhere.

Spell 2: The cloak spell. Alright here we get into some risky territory. This is basically the item from Dota 2, Lothar's Edge. Makes you faster and deal damage on breaking cloak. Disgusting stuff.

Spell 3: The blink spell. This is Puck from Dota 2's Illusionary Orb, except it doesnt do damage. Despicable.

Spell 4: The big hack spell. This is Global Silence, Silencer's Ultimate Ability from Dota 2. Giving a character a silence is fine but when you wholesale copy Global Silence (Silencer globally silences every enemy hero on the map) then you begin to rub me the wrong way.

Spell 5: The passive spell. This is the most telling one of all, folks. This spell is 1 for 1 the spell 'Thirst', which may as well be Bloodseeker from Dota 2's signature ability. Blizzard really didn't try to hide this one.

I really hope this is pulled from reddit or something, because holy poo poo.

Also hero stacking in QP is dumb but who loving cares. It's QP. Get the gently caress over it and go play comp if it makes you that salty, and if someone in QP tells you you need to switch for their hero stack tell them to shove it.

LITERALLY MY FETISH fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Nov 5, 2016

Constantine XI
Dec 21, 2003
omg turk rush

strong bird posted:

Alright lets break down the new girls spells and see where they stole them from wholesale.

Spell 1: The hack spell. Well folks this is just a silence. Pretty bargain basement stuff here. Cant really say they stole this spell from anywhere.

Spell 2: The cloak spell. Alright here we get into some risky territory. This is basically the item from Dota 2, Lothar's Edge. Makes you faster and deal damage on breaking cloak. Disgusting stuff.

Spell 3: The blink spell. This is Puck from Dota 2's Illusionary Orb, except it doesnt do damage. Despicable.

Spell 4: The big hack spell. This is Global Silence, Silencer's Ultimate Ability from Dota 2. Giving a character a silence is fine but when you wholesale copy Global Silence (Silencer globally silences every enemy hero on the map) then you begin to rub me the wrong way.

Spell 5: The passive spell. This is the most telling one of all, folks. This spell is 1 for 1 the spell 'Thirst', which may as well be Bloodseeker from Dota 2's signature ability. Blizzard really didn't try to hide this one.

Blizzard is ripping off mobas and no one seems to care. SAD.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



Zanael posted:

Praise our Korean Overlords who crushed NA in a really quick match.

na lost before the game ever started. that vote made for some weird, lopsided teams

korea'd win anyway tho

Zanael
Jan 30, 2007

Finn 3:16 says I just licorice
whipped your peppermint ass

Manatee Cannon posted:

na lost before the game ever started. that vote made for some weird, lopsided teams

korea'd win anyway tho

Yeah we apparently got twitch streamers for players for France too. As did China from the look of the game vs Sweden, they're getting spanked really hard.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



china had a full team but got 2 last minute replacements due to visa issues. sweden, finland, and south korea were all entirely pro players but south korea pretty clearly gels together better. like finland is lopsided and doesn't have great options for a lot of good heroes for example

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

China actually sent all pro players.

Their pros just aren't as good as the rest of the world's.

WanderingKid
Feb 27, 2005

lives here...
Did Esca get a 5k with that deadeye? I blinked and sort of missed it live (didn't think it could really happen). Then I missed it again on the replay while googling who Dyrus was and why he sucks the life out of live broadcast.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



he did and it was pretty funny

sterster
Jun 19, 2006
nothing
Fun Shoe

WanderingKid posted:

Did Esca get a 5k with that deadeye? I blinked and sort of missed it live (didn't think it could really happen). Then I missed it again on the replay while googling who Dyrus was and why he sucks the life out of live broadcast.
Here ya go
Daed eye - https://clips.twitch.tv/blizzard/EnergeticReindeerBigBrother

Foxhound
Sep 5, 2007
Are there any numbers for Sombra yet? Like invis duration/cooldown, hack cooldown/channeling time (if it can be interrupted like you guys said). Can hacked medkits be counter-hacked by an enemy sombra? Also what is the spread of her weapon like? I haven't been able to watch any streams. :(

From the looks of it it's another flanker, but with a bit more utility. Like most flankers people will either suck or dominate with her. I'm really not a fan of the invisibility, easily broken or not. Sneaking up on a 200HP support, unloading a clip in their head and instantly teleport to safety doesn't sound very fun tbh.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

my mum says im cool

Toilet Rascal


sombra has no idea who mcree is.

VoLaTiLe
Oct 21, 2010

He's Behind you
So has the Doomfist ARG started yet

Sombra looks pretty fun to play I've always loved playing spy in team fortress so an invisible hacky shootie girl looks like it may be my Jam.

However with her being DPS I'll probably never get to play her because she will get slam picked for the first month or so

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Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

Foxhound posted:

From the looks of it it's another flanker, but with a bit more utility. Like most flankers people will either suck or dominate with her. I'm really not a fan of the invisibility, easily broken or not. Sneaking up on a 200HP support, unloading a clip in their head and instantly teleport to safety doesn't sound very fun tbh.

You've just basically described Tracer.

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