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boner confessor posted:and again, this doesn't make any logical sense. you may as well say the texts came from an angry and righteous god, Or someone who thinks of themselves like an angry and righteous God? Like say, some kind of psychotic vigilante(s)? EDIT: And yeah I don't really see where you can get the 'planted evidence' angle from... Even then, surely he could totally just lie and say that the hackers did put it there? I mean I can't imagine a jury, when faced with all the other events of that day (that they have the texts about) finding it hard to believe they wouldn't just put that on there. Even if they 'hoovered up the whole hard-drive' like Bron said, there's nothing stopping them from copying his hard drive and then adding kiddie porn to it, it's data after all not physical evidence. cosmically_cosmic fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Nov 2, 2016 |
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Nov 2, 2016 03:18
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cosmically_cosmic posted:Or someone who thinks of themselves like an angry and righteous God? Like say, some kind of psychotic vigilante(s)? sure, but then we have to wonder how psychotic vigilanties end up with the resources necessary to orchestrate this entire scheme
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Nov 2, 2016 03:22
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boner confessor posted:sure, but then we have to wonder how psychotic vigilanties end up with the resources necessary to orchestrate this entire scheme An empty gun, a drone, and a computer? Granted this is a genre episode so you can break it down endlessly until you end up saying 'why didn't they all stay at home and do nothing exciting' but really, this isn't so different from that real life bank robbery where the guy had like a bomb strapped to his chest, which for me gives it enough reality to enjoy as an hour long thriller.
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Nov 2, 2016 03:24
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Do you guys think people had these kind of arguments about the obvious twists in The Twilight Zone? "Sure, it says To Serve Man, but there's no way their language had the same idioms, so it couldn't possibly be a cookbook - she was just trying to get him scared before his long space flight, and there's nothing in the narrative to suggest otherwise."
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Nov 2, 2016 03:31
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cosmically_cosmic posted:Granted this is a genre episode so you can break it down endlessly until you end up saying 'why didn't they all stay at home and do nothing exciting' but really, this isn't so different from that real life bank robbery where the guy had like a bomb strapped to his chest, which for me gives it enough reality to enjoy as an hour long thriller. as i've said before this episode would make a lot more sense if the motive of the blackmailers were to force people to rob a bank to get the money rather than just putting people through an obstacle course for the hell of it. like it's weird to reconcile the amount of effort involved forcing the victims of blackmail to do stuff they normally wouldn't do just to doxx them in the end anyway. eventually the police caught the people who did the neck bomb bank robbery, and it turns out neck bomb guy was in on it - he wasn't coerced, it was just a dumb scheme that didn't work boner confessor fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Nov 2, 2016 |
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Nov 2, 2016 03:31
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Bicyclops posted:Do you guys think people had these kind of arguments about the obvious twists in The Twilight Zone? "Sure, it says To Serve Man, but there's no way their language had the same idioms, so it couldn't possibly be a cookbook - she was just trying to get him scared before his long space flight, and there's nothing in the narrative to suggest otherwise." I don't know about the Twilight Zone in particular, but these kinds of discussions are quite old.
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Nov 2, 2016 04:36
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boner confessor posted:...like it's weird to reconcile the amount of effort involved forcing the victims of blackmail to do stuff they normally wouldn't do just to doxx them in the end anyway. eventually the police caught the people who did the neck bomb bank robbery, and it turns out neck bomb guy was in on it - he wasn't coerced, it was just a dumb scheme that didn't work Actually from what I've seen it's a little more interesting than that. He was in on it until he found out it wasn't fake, then they forced it on him and made him do it anyway. And also, afterwards they analysed what he had to do before the device went off, and it was quite literally impossible to pull it off in the time they had given him. Which also sounds pretty Black Mirror-y if you ask me.
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Nov 2, 2016 05:35
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boner confessor posted:as i've said before this episode would make a lot more sense if the motive of the blackmailers were to force people to rob a bank to get the money rather than just putting people through an obstacle course for the hell of it. like it's weird to reconcile the amount of effort involved forcing the victims of blackmail to do stuff they normally wouldn't do just to doxx them in the end anyway. eventually the police caught the people who did the neck bomb bank robbery, and it turns out neck bomb guy was in on it - he wasn't coerced, it was just a dumb scheme that didn't work Yes but then it would be an entirely different story with a different message, and wouldn't say what Brooker wanted to say. Also Kenny's phone was able to have location services on all day, with a 100% accurate GPS and an open map tracking his every move (while texting) without his battery dying (or the possibility of it dying being a concern). If I can make my mind believe that in 2016 then I can believe that arseholes with a lot of time to kill would do bad things for nothing but the sense of moral crusader-ism.
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Nov 2, 2016 08:15
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Can you guys all please stop enabling this loving idiot? God drat, thread totally ruined.
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Nov 2, 2016 08:45
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cosmically_cosmic posted:EDIT: And yeah I don't really see where you can get the 'planted evidence' angle from... Even then, surely he could totally just lie and say that the hackers did put it there? kenny says "it was just some pictures" so there's no support for a frame up. Bicyclops posted:Do you guys think people had these kind of arguments about the obvious twists in The Twilight Zone? "Sure, it says To Serve Man, but there's no way their language had the same idioms, so it couldn't possibly be a cookbook - she was just trying to get him scared before his long space flight, and there's nothing in the narrative to suggest otherwise." we have an entire subforum about movies that is like 3/4 this type of nonsense.
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Nov 2, 2016 10:18
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Did I just skip 5 pages of people arguing about whether a character who was revealed to have been masturbating over pictures of children, was masturbating over pictures of children? I made the thread for Tommy Wissaeu's The Neighbours, that is no longer the worst thread I've made. BSam fucked around with this message at 10:31 on Nov 2, 2016 |
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Nov 2, 2016 10:28
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Here thread have a video of Charlie Brooker, Joe Wright and Annabel Jones talking about the series after a showing of Nose Dive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVb2qxhDkrc Also here is a picture of Charlie and his wife Connie at Halloween this year. 10 points for guessing Charlie's costume (which he actually references in the talk) 
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Nov 2, 2016 10:47
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BSam posted:Did I just skip 5 pages of people arguing about whether a character who was revealed to have been masturbating over pictures of children, was masturbating over pictures of children? I kept skimming thinking surely they would move on????? But they NEVER DID. I know it's a genre show but does every genre show thread have to have irritating spergy derails because one or two people don't understand basic storytelling, or are so enamoured with their point of view they can't imagine differently?
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Nov 2, 2016 12:56
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Goons PBFing it up over basic details has a long and fine tradition. My personal favourite is Portal's upside-down invisible sky castle.
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Nov 2, 2016 13:01
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Escobarbarian posted:so enamoured with their point of view they can't imagine differently? 
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Nov 2, 2016 13:11
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Walter White used Mike's voice via magic.
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Nov 2, 2016 13:11
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Lt. Danger posted:Goons PBFing it up over basic details has a long and fine tradition. My personal favourite is Portal's upside-down invisible sky castle. i gotta hear this.
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Nov 2, 2016 14:09
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Escobarbarian posted:or are so enamoured with their point of view they can't imagine differently? lol
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Rondette posted:Here thread have a video of Charlie Brooker, Joe Wright and Annabel Jones talking about the series after a showing of Nose Dive. That's definitely Threads 
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Nov 2, 2016 23:56
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Groovelord Neato posted:i gotta hear this. I'm no expert because I only read about it later, but from what I recall it had to do with the ending of Portal 1. After you defeat GladOS you and everything else begins to get sucked upwards and you end up outside. Some people had to find a reason that everything goes upwards when the facility blows up, so they decided that everything was upside down so now you're falling down when the anti-gravity cuts out but it looks like you're going up. I don't think anyone literally believed it was an invisible sky castle, but once you're outside you don't actually see anything above you (except clear blue sky) so that's what it became.
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Nov 3, 2016 03:20
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Well, I just watched San Junipero after not caring much for the first two episodes, and I'm completely devastated. It's definitely my favorite of the whole series so far, and one of the best things I've ever seen on TV. The fact that the music in the arcade/dance hall is the soundtrack of my teen years just ramps the emotional WHAMMO factor up to a thousand. I did feel that the argument and conflict that arose between Kelly and Yorkie seemed a bit abrupt and contrived. If Kelly only married Yorkie out of pity that would be a poo poo thing to do, actually, as Yorkie already had things worked out with her marriage of convenience, and it would lead to an expectation that Kelly would join her there and be her companion. Of course she didn't really do it just out of pity, and the way things played out suggests that Kelly already had a lot of inner conflict about the time she was spending in San Junipero before Yorkie arrived on the scene. I guess her life was basically over after her family was gone and through something that was supposed to be therapeutic she was rediscovering adventure and romance and fun again and didn't really know how to fit that in against her old life. I did like the basic premise of Nosedive, the rating system, its implications in the hierarchy of society etc. but I just felt like having introduced a really clever thing, that they just didn't know how to conclude the story.
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Nov 5, 2016 03:53
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Finished this a few days ago, gonna summarize my thoughts for each episode: Nosedive I started out kinda feeling the cliche a lot, but I ended up really liking this one. It was very Rashida Jones-y, to the point where I wondered if she herself was initially supposed to play Lacey. But BDH did a great job too. And a rare happy ending! Playtest Holy poo poo. Awesome. It managed to keep me on edge the entire time. The actor, though a little annoying at times, really conveyed the anxiety of the situation. The ending was corny as hell, but I liked the ambiguity of whether or not he's still in it (fear of death). This might be tied for my favorite of the new season with... Shut Up and Dance  What a rollercoaster. I thought for sure that Bronn would turn out to be in on it. And the twist that Kenny was a pedo was great. Oh were you just sympathizing with this poor kid the entire time? Haha gently caress you. People were arguing about this, though?  The guy asks "How young?" and Kenny makes what might be the guiltiest face I've ever seen outside of dogs in trouble.San Junipero This was a good one. I don't really understand why it seems to be everyone's favorite though. You figure out what's going on halfway through, and the rest is pretty much just relationship drama. Is it because ~80s~ or what? I'm glad this show took on the concept of digital immortality though, and it did it very well. It raises so many questions, like are the "dead" Juniperans even the same people, or just copies? And what if the facility has a hiccup? If you ask me, digital immortality like this is only possible if the soul actually exists. Men Against Fire Pretty cool! I actually didn't see the twist coming. What do you all think is the deal with the "roaches"? Ethnic group being "cleansed", actual mutants due to exposure to something (might explain the state of the world we see), or "invalids" like in GATTACA? Also, Michael Kelly killed it. Hated in the Nation I did not think this one was very good, and I guess I'm in the minority again on that. It felt to me like one of Shyamalan's worse movies. The bees target people through a specific hashtag on Twitter? Oh I dunno, maybe have Twitter ban that hashtag?? If that doesn't work, just loving shut down Twitter and any other sites it uses. Oh and Margaret Shroeder and the other ladies don't even try to cover their faces. I know that wouldn't work since the bees can wreck poo poo, but why wouldn't you try?! The episode was still pretty thrilling, however, and I did enjoy it. Overall, another great season of the most hosed up show! I was worried it wouldn't be good after I saw that review about the quality not surviving the transition to Netflix, so I was pleasantly surprised. Just like the other seasons, it has the odd one out that isn't up to par with the rest (National Anthem, Waldo Moment, Hated in the Nation; just IMO). Good job Charlie, you continue to disgust and disturb me, and generally make me feel things I don't want to feel. And that's exactly why I watch. 
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El Jeffe posted:If you ask me, digital immortality like this is only possible if the soul actually exists. If the torture in White Christmas was real, this happiness is real too.
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Nov 5, 2016 04:41
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Elman posted:If the torture in White Christmas was real, this happiness is real too. Yeah it was almost definitely supposed to be real in the show, I guess I was more wondering about if it were to be done in reality.
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Nov 5, 2016 05:33
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El Jeffe posted:
You're not, at least in this thread. I really, really liked it, but most people didn't. The complaints are a bit different from yours - I'd say the bulk of people have complaints with the bees as a concept, a bit too much exposition as to how the bees worked, or else they didn't like the characters, who felt a bit too stock procedural. It hit every note for me, but don't feel like you're alone if it wasn't your favorite. 
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Nov 5, 2016 05:34
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Name one personality trait for the lead in Hated in the Nation. Other than "skeptic about the internet".
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Escobarbarian posted:Name one personality trait for the lead in Hated in the Nation. Other than "skeptic about the internet". Bored
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Nov 5, 2016 10:09
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I didn't say a personality trait of me while watching the character, silly!
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Incredibly dry sense of humour.
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World weary Married to the job An archetypal lead to this sort of crime procedural with all the easily observable personality traits that go with that
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Nov 5, 2016 11:11
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Daius posted:An archetypal lead to this sort of crime procedural exactly
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Nov 5, 2016 11:31
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Would you have enjoyed it more if she was a paedophile
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Nov 5, 2016 11:37
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Bicyclops posted:You're not, at least in this thread. I really, really liked it, but most people didn't. The complaints are a bit different from yours - I'd say the bulk of people have complaints with the bees as a concept, a bit too much exposition as to how the bees worked, or else they didn't like the characters, who felt a bit too stock procedural. It hit every note for me, but don't feel like you're alone if it wasn't your favorite. it was also a lame way to go about the internet hate mob thing which is a cool jumping off point.
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Escobarbarian posted:Name one personality trait for the lead in Hated in the Nation. Other than "skeptic about the internet". Bad At Acting Can't Talk Normally
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Nov 5, 2016 16:03
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My wife is waiting to watch these so she has something good to watch when home with a newborn. I already know the endings of Playtest, Shut Up and Dance and San J. are going to wreak her! I have never liked twist endings that screw over the characters (Outer Limits), but in this show I am fine with how they end. The writing makes things seem fair, I guess. Even if the characters don't always deserve their fate, I can understand how it came to happen.
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Nov 5, 2016 17:51
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Disgusting Coward posted:Can't Talk Normally she's just scottish okay they can't help it I don't mind the world-weary, logical and stoic lead, and I think she did a fine job at that character, but it's just something I've seen a thousand times in media.
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Nov 5, 2016 18:19
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Carwash oval office posted:My wife is waiting to watch these so she has something good to watch when home with a newborn. I already know the endings of Playtest, Shut Up and Dance and San J. are going to wreak her! the problem with outer limits is usually it just comes out of nowhere.
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Nov 5, 2016 18:24
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Dias posted:she's just scottish okay they can't help it Yeah to clarify I'm not insulting the performance, just the character as written.
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Was San Junipero put after Shut Up and Dance on purpose? Make viewers suicidal, then fill them with unrelenting beautiful optimism. Literally saving lives.
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