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tater_salad posted:What I don't understand is at a bridge like this they font hang a board on chain at 10'8".. If you hit this sign don't go. this is a great idea i don't know why people have not thought of this before. hey, maybe they could even raise the bridge or lower the road!
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FCKGW posted:this is a great idea i don't know why people have not thought of this before. hey, maybe they could even raise the bridge or lower the road! Instead of popping up a stop sign it should just pop up some tire shredders!
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FCKGW posted:this is a great idea i don't know why people have not thought of this before. hey, maybe they could even raise the bridge or lower the road! You're right sorry for wondering if there was a simple solution to cure stupidity, but there isnt.
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Nov 5, 2016 03:10
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Jerry Cotton posted:Going to tie a rope around my head and light it on fire so the top of my noggin' will fall off. His name was Jerry Cotton, Now it's Jerry Ring-burnt Noggin.
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FCKGW posted:this is a great idea i don't know why people have not thought of this before. hey, maybe they could even raise the bridge or lower the road! but then we wouldn't get these funny vids.
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Old but relevant https://youtu.be/Dk9DjO-_rT8
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Nov 5, 2016 05:47
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tater_salad posted:What I don't understand is at a bridge like this they font hang a board on chain at 10'8".. If you hit this sign don't go.
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Nov 5, 2016 06:49
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Tumblr of scotch posted:This particular bridge has actually had countermeasure after countermeasure added, and it still happens. The drivers are just inattentive idiots. Right. Which, to me, indicates that its less they are idiots to be villanized and that this bridge could get any of us when we are at its weakest.
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Nov 5, 2016 06:50
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Griz posted:there's a 12 foot tunnel in Alabama where they had chains hanging from the warning sign, and they got 5 trucks stuck in 2 months. so they put PVC pipe over the chains and wrapped it with reflective tape, and also added a height detector that sets off red flashing lights and a siren and changes the sign on the tunnel entrance to say STOP DO NOT ENTER, and trucks still ignore all that and get stuck. Tony Snark posted:My pops is glad to finally retire out of trucking because of bullshit like this and chucklefucks basically trying suicide by truck every day for ~45 years. Man the cognitive dissonance is strong on the road
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Tumblr of scotch posted:This particular bridge has actually had countermeasure after countermeasure added, and it still happens. The drivers are just inattentive idiots. If they were serious and it was costing the city enough money they'd do this  And a video of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk9DjO-_rT8
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Nov 5, 2016 12:33
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Captain Postal posted:If they were serious and it was costing the city enough money they'd do this It’s a revenue generator. There’s no damage to the bridge thanks to the detached shield beam, and they get to bill idiot truckers for the cost of clean‐up.
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Nov 5, 2016 13:01
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The 11'8 bridge is actually problematic for that, because trucks still need access to the side road immediately in front of it. You don't know for sure an approaching truck is going to be an idiot and try and drive under the bridge, so you have to do non-disruptive stuff like a stonking great TRUCKS MUST TURN sign that flashes when a truck is approaching.
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Nov 5, 2016 13:11
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Yeah at some point it's a situation where they clearly don't care that much (or it's making them more money in fines than it costs to repair) because, as shown, there are plenty of ways to fix it. They all cost money, but not a ridiculous amount of money.
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Encrypted posted:Haven't seen this last one before You can see that the oversized warning lights are activated in most of these.
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So turns out they actually installed new sensor and a big red light under the bridge that will immediately trigger for half a minute with panel on top telling the truck driver they are overheight and need to turn But you can probably guess what happens next https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQfSvIgIs_M It was actually present in the last few crashes of the previous clip and this one has a better view angle and explanation for it. Encrypted fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Nov 5, 2016 |
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Encrypted posted:So turns out they actually installed new sensor and a big red light under the bridge that will immediately trigger for half a minute with panel on top telling the truck driver they are overheight and need to turn That is pure gold.
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Nov 5, 2016 13:59
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xergm posted:Did you not watch the video? They were specifically pointing out how federal standards regulating those bars aren't strict enough. The problem is that the bars aren't braced in any way, so they just crumple at the welds. Thankfully, down here, we have Standards Australia which is an independent body which goes and tests best practice and design and they come up with Standards which can be adopted into legislation. This happened with rear underrun protection when they modified the Vehicle Standards Act to require bars which would, in fact, hold up under an impact. They will deform to absorb impact, but not enough to "eat" the car. Like this:  Also - the old style "big fukken metal tubes" are still legal, but they have to be shown to be able to stop a car driving a (I think) around 60kph.
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There's about 800 penske and budget trucks that get hosed up. That rental insurance... it doesn't cover driving under thigs.. RIP.
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tater_salad posted:There's about 800 penske and budget trucks that get hosed up. That rental insurance... it doesn't cover driving under thigs.. RIP. The van/truck rental place I go to sometimes has a wall of shame/warnings about clearance issue collisions. And they very explicitly state all over that the rental agreement and walls that the rental insurance doesn't cover those.
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Splode posted:Yeah at some point it's a situation where they clearly don't care that much (or it's making them more money in fines than it costs to repair) because, as shown, there are plenty of ways to fix it. The only permanent ways to fix it are to lower the road or raise the bridge. They can't just raise the bridge because it's a heavily used railway and they'd need to steadily raise and lower the grade for miles because trains don't like speed bumps, and they can't just lower the road because there's a large sewer line underneath. Anything that would permanently fix the problem is not only expensive, it would involve shutting down either a section of a major railway line or a sewer line and a heavily trafficked local intersection for an extended period of time.
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Humphreys posted:His name was Jerry Cotton, Now it's Jerry Ring-burnt Noggin. Mods seem to be a bit tardy at the moment.
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Nov 5, 2016 17:07
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Televised public floggings for people who drive oversize vehicles under that bridge.
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Nov 5, 2016 17:10
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Stupid thought, but why don't they just lower the impact bar under the bridge to like 9' so there's no way a truck driver would look at it and go "eh, I'll squeak under, should be fine" The resulting decapitations, probably?
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XVIII posted:Stupid thought, but why don't they just lower the impact bar under the bridge to like 9' so there's no way a truck driver would look at it and go "eh, I'll squeak under, should be fine" Would make for great thread content though.
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XVIII posted:Stupid thought, but why don't they just lower the impact bar under the bridge to like 9' so there's no way a truck driver would look at it and go "eh, I'll squeak under, should be fine" I'd guess something like this.
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XVIII posted:Stupid thought, but why don't they just lower the impact bar under the bridge to like 9' so there's no way a truck driver would look at it and go "eh, I'll squeak under, should be fine" Because they want as many vehicles as possible to be able to pass under the bridge.
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XVIII posted:Stupid thought, but why don't they just lower the impact bar under the bridge to like 9' so there's no way a truck driver would look at it and go "eh, I'll squeak under, should be fine" You would then just end up with a whole new group of vehicles hitting the lowered bar. For any height (X) of bar you will have a non-zero number of vehicles exhibiting height X+Y that believe their height to be sub-X until the equation is resolved into a pile of wreckage with a remainder of shreds of dignity.
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Plus imagine how many people have been regularly driving under it and would now hit it. That would piss some people off.
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The bridge did nothing wrong and the impacts don't really hurt the bridge. So long as the fines more than cover the wear and tear from the impacts leave it be, hell turn it into a cash cow and a shaming device. jack the fines up, name and shame the drivers.
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Stupid thought, but why don't they install more cameras, so they get the drivers' reactions?
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Something just occured to me. Every video I've seen of that bridge has people hitting it from the same direction. Do they not bother to show them the other side because the angle isn't as good for the video? Surely people hit it from the other direction too.
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Master Twig posted:Something just occured to me. Every video I've seen of that bridge has people hitting it from the same direction. Do they not bother to show them the other side because the angle isn't as good for the video? Surely people hit it from the other direction too. Looking at the place in google maps, I think you're right. There aren't any buildings nearby on the other side that aren't obscured by trees or gets a good angle.
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Master Twig posted:Something just occured to me. Every video I've seen of that bridge has people hitting it from the same direction. Do they not bother to show them the other side because the angle isn't as good for the video? Surely people hit it from the other direction too. Those videos are from one guy's business right by the bridge, they aren't official city videos or anything.
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tater_salad posted:You're right sorry for wondering if there was a simple solution to cure stupidity, but there isnt. what i was getting at is that this bridge pops up every few weeks and every time someone asks about putting in a bar/raising/lowering the bridge, putting in water thing, closing the bridge, blah blah blah. the faq covers most of the issues. http://11foot8.com/faq/
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chitoryu12 posted:The only permanent ways to fix it are to lower the road or raise the bridge. They can't just raise the bridge because it's a heavily used railway and they'd need to steadily raise and lower the grade for miles because trains don't like speed bumps, and they can't just lower the road because there's a large sewer line underneath. Anything that would permanently fix the problem is not only expensive, it would involve shutting down either a section of a major railway line or a sewer line and a heavily trafficked local intersection for an extended period of time. A giant sawzall mounted in front of the bridge, you're welcome. E: Master Twig posted:Something just occured to me. Every video I've seen of that bridge has people hitting it from the same direction. Do they not bother to show them the other side because the angle isn't as good for the video? Surely people hit it from the other direction too. The camera is apparently in some dude's office, it's not an official DoT camera or anything. goatsestretchgoals fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Nov 5, 2016 |
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All bridges should be lower than 6 feet imo
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FCKGW posted:what i was getting at is that this bridge pops up every few weeks and every time someone asks about putting in a bar/raising/lowering the bridge, putting in water thing, closing the bridge, blah blah blah. Yeah, I think it's usually reasonable to assume that the people running the town are not stupid and they would do something about it if it were feasible. "What? We've got a bridge that only 11'8" high? Madness! Why didn't anyone tell me?"
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VectorSigma posted:it's a one-way street That just makes a crash on the other side even better.
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why don't they just lower the whole city a few feet? jeez
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