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Henker posted:So a couple went missing in August, and they just found the girl alive literally chained by her neck in a shipping container. No sign of the boyfriend yet, but she's saying there are bodies buried on the property. The suspect's Facebook profile is public and this post in particular really sticks out: Aaah social media. All the dank memes serial killers were posting will now be analyzed by tv psychologists and "specialists". But seriously, that is loving creepy.
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pookel posted:This is a pro click. I love terrifying disasters where no one died, too. +1 Very pro click
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Cumslut1895 posted:the boyfriend is 100% dead Deleting stupid comment, I mixed up names
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Henker posted:So a couple went missing in August, and they just found the girl alive literally chained by her neck in a shipping container. No sign of the boyfriend yet, but she's saying there are bodies buried on the property. The suspect's Facebook profile is public and this post in particular really sticks out: Holy poo poo.  Either a full-blown serial killer, or working his way up to one.
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The IRA talk reminded me of an interview Conan O'Brien had with Colin Quinn sometime during the late 90s. Colin spent most of it trying to get Conan to put on some kind of IRA pin to show support. So yeah, there were Americans who were publicly for that ungodly mess.
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Re: the kidnapped lady in SC, one body has been found but not identified, and there's evidence that the kidnapper was using his victims' facebook accounts to gently caress with their families.
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whiteyfats posted:Holy poo poo. He used his job as a real-estate agent to set up a secret murder farm and first started committing violent sex crimes 30 years ago. He is very likely an accomplished serial killer.
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Jack Gladney posted:He used his job as a real-estate agent to set up a secret murder farm and first started committing violent sex crimes 30 years ago. He is very likely an accomplished serial killer. Maybe. Has there been reports of any other unsolved missing women in his area?
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Duke of Flies posted:Re: the kidnapped lady in SC, one body has been found but not identified, and there's evidence that the kidnapper was using his victims' facebook accounts to gently caress with their families.  It's like a mixture of Albert Fish and Robert Pickton.Edit: The bear traps all over the property isn't a good sign at all. Solice Kirsk has a new favorite as of 13:52 on Nov 5, 2016 |
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Has there ever been a sadistic sexual serial killer who targeted adult men? Jeffrey Dahmer killed men, but he was a genuine necrophile and didn't make his victims suffer (this isn't a defense, I'm just saying it's a different sort of interest). All the others I can think of targeted women or children/teens. I don't think it's just a practical consideration. I feel like there's a really hosed up predator-prey dynamic that goes on with these guys, and they get off on targeting victims they perceive as weak and helpless. For some reason, no one ever seems to be interested in chaining men up in sheds and sexually abusing them.
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What? You need to read this thread more. Remember, one of the most prolific serial killers is Dean Corll. Don't go down that wrong road, predators go after what they crave.
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pookel posted:Has there ever been a sadistic sexual serial killer who targeted adult men? Jeffrey Dahmer killed men, but he was a genuine necrophile and didn't make his victims suffer (this isn't a defense, I'm just saying it's a different sort of interest). All the others I can think of targeted women or children/teens. What? Dahmer's victims likely suffered horribly. Drilling holes in somebody's skull and pouring in acid/boiling water isn't funtimes.
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fizzymercy posted:What? You need to read this thread more. Remember, one of the most prolific serial killers is Dean Corll. Don't go down that wrong road, predators go after what they crave. Oh, man, and the Houston police managed to gently caress up every single thing about that investigation. Just stopped looking for bodies when they broke the-then current record, while the accomplices were telling them there were still more bodies.
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Oh god my man, Dean Corll gives me nightmares for how bungled the investigation was. We have no idea what his real victim numbers were, even now. That's just so depressing.
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America's first serial killer, H.H. Holmes went after both men and women.
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pookel posted:Has there ever been a sadistic sexual serial killer who targeted adult men? Jeffrey Dahmer killed men, but he was a genuine necrophile and didn't make his victims suffer (this isn't a defense, I'm just saying it's a different sort of interest). All the others I can think of targeted women or children/teens. Arguably Gacy.
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Pick posted:Panzram definitely fits the bill. Came here to post him. Also your admirers sure like spending money. e: Here's a list of serial killers who targeted men. Also, The Doodler isn't on there but he sticks out to me because his victims went home with him consentually and other people recall seeing him but he's never been identified. RNG has a new favorite as of 17:41 on Nov 5, 2016 |
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whiteyfats posted:What? Dahmer's victims likely suffered horribly. Drilling holes in somebody's skull and pouring in acid/boiling water isn't funtimes.
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pookel posted:poo poo, you're right, I was remembering that he drugged them. Either I'm mixing up killers or that was only some of his victims. You might be thinking of Dennis Nilsen.
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fizzymercy posted:Oh god my man, Dean Corll gives me nightmares for how bungled the investigation was. We have no idea what his real victim numbers were, even now. That's just so depressing. Yes.  Especially since one of the islands the accomplices said more bodies were at was washed away by a hurricane. They also said there were still bodies at the boathouse storage place.
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RNG posted:Came here to post him. Also your admirers sure like spending money. Didn't the police have a pretty good idea who the Doodler was, but none of the people who escaped would testify, because they were in the closet? Or am I thinking of somebody else?
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pookel posted:Has there ever been a sadistic sexual serial killer who targeted adult men? Jeffrey Dahmer killed men, but he was a genuine necrophile and didn't make his victims suffer (this isn't a defense, I'm just saying it's a different sort of interest). All the others I can think of targeted women or children/teens. This guy killed at least 11 men between 1980 and 1996 and buried them in his backyard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herb_Baumeister
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MightyJoe36 posted:This guy killed at least 11 men between 1980 and 1996 and buried them in his backyard. There's another guy, American, but I'm blanking on the name. He would chain them up and torture them for days. He was finally caught after a victim managed to to escape and find his way to the police. EDIT: This fucker: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Berdella EDIT 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Eyler This guy killed both boys and young men. Another reason sadists targeting grown men are rarer is the fact grown men are usually much harder to control by (mostly) one person, unlike a woman or a child. So even if they'd really prefer grown men, they might not won't to risk biting off more than they can chew. Randaconda has a new favorite as of 18:52 on Nov 5, 2016 |
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whiteyfats posted:EDIT: This fucker: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Berdella This guy sold stuff at the Westport Flea Market, which I walked past today, lived in Hyde Park, near where I used to live, and attended the Kansas City Art Institute, where I used to work...he got all his murdering done by the time I was an infant, but that is pretty close to home for me. Ugh.
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:This guy sold stuff at the Westport Flea Market, which I walked past today, lived in Hyde Park, near where I used to live, and attended the Kansas City Art Institute, where I used to work...he got all his murdering done by the time I was an infant, but that is pretty close to home for me. Ugh. I shopped in his store several times, Bob's Bizzare Bazzar, and bought a Xmas present for my wife from him. The Westport Flea Market is essentially stalls and rooms, Bob had a room - he didnt have employees so you always bought and haggled with him. It was creepy for a lot of us when he got caught. He had 4 skulls above the door which everyone assumed were fake. Jokes on them. Oh and a local weirdo millionaire bought the stores inventory and moved it south to Harrisonville, Del Dunmire iirc.
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RNG posted:Came here to post him. Also your admirers sure like spending money. Yeah, I've been through I think 5 custom avs in the last 3 days? You're welcome, Lowtax. Anyway. Panzram is fascinating, because he wrote down his rationale for everything he did. He's one of those infamous crazy nihilists but his reasoning is a lot more nuanced than that, and overall extremely sad. That said, he apparently could make friends and have relationships. One of the weirdest things he mentions in his letters to the guard who was nice to him (who put $1 in his prison account so he could buy stuff and made him cry) is just this passing aside that he was seeing some dude, and that guy guy weirded out by him, so Panzram just let him off at the next harbor and they parted ways. Like, in this story of a guy who raped and murdered absolutely poo poo tons of men, there's "Oh and I was dating some guy but it didn't work out  ."Anyway, worth getting the book of his letters if you are interested in that kind of thing. quote:I am 36 years old and I have been a criminal all of my life. I have 11 felony convictions against me. I have served 20 years of my life in Jails, Reform Schools and prisons. I know why I am a criminal. Others may have different theories as to my life but I have no theory about it. I know the facts. If any man ever was a habitual criminal. I am one. In my lifetime I have broken every law that was ever made by both Man and God. If either had made more, I should cheerfully have broken them also. The mere fact that I have done these things is quite sufficient for the average person. Very few peopel ever consider it worth while to wonder why I am what I am and do what I do. All that they think it is necessary to do is to catch me, try me convict me and send me to prison for a few years, make life miserable for me while in prison and then turn me loose again. That is the system that is in practice today in this country. The consequences are that such that any one and every one can see. crime and lots of it. Those who are sincere in thier desire to put down crime, are to be pitied for all of thier efforts which accomplish so little in the desired direction. They are the ones who are decieved by thier own ignorance and by the trickery and greed of others who profit the most by crime. Pick has a new favorite as of 03:03 on Nov 6, 2016 |
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I followed one of the serial killer links through to the Original Night Stalker page, and I was wondering if anybody had any insight into the whole psychological profile of serial killer thing? The very specific items on those lists always throw me for a loop. For the Original Night Stalker, for example, there's some things that make sense:quote:White male I assume you could puzzle out most of this stuff from when and where and how the guy was committing his crimes. But there's some stuff that sounds either reaching or just total speculation. quote:Had some knowledge of police investigative methods and evidence-gathering techniques Some of this I suppose are traits common to serial killers, but "knowledge of police tactics" seems pretty specific, same thing with cat burglar. Is there a degree of art to a profile, or is it total science? All I know about psychological profiles is Hannibal, so.
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Rochallor posted:I followed one of the serial killer links through to the Original Night Stalker page, and I was wondering if anybody had any insight into the whole psychological profile of serial killer thing? The very specific items on those lists always throw me for a loop. For the Original Night Stalker, for example, there's some things that make sense: Peter Vronsky gets into this a little bit in his book Serial Killers. Basically it's statistical analysis that correlates details of the crime with other similar details from other crimes, and it's not perfect and casts a wide net. I think he says it's debatable whether FBI profiles can be shown to help in specific or measurable ways.
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This was my favorite entry in that list because holy poo poo this guy must have been an absolute moron.quote:Carl Panzram was in prison for a burglary when he confessed to his best friend, a prison guard, that he had killed 22 men and raped at least 1,000. He was sentenced to 25 years for these crimes but received the death penalty when he killed a fellow inmate. He was hung in 1930. Honestly I should have bolded the whole thing.
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chernobyl kinsman posted:shipping container guy killed at least seven people Henker has a new favorite as of 06:07 on Nov 6, 2016 |
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Rochallor posted:Some of this I suppose are traits common to serial killers, but "knowledge of police tactics" seems pretty specific, same thing with cat burglar. Is there a degree of art to a profile, or is it total science? All I know about psychological profiles is Hannibal, so. I've always got the impression serial killer profiling is as much of a science as wine tasting.
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moonsour posted:This was my favorite entry in that list because holy poo poo this guy must have been an absolute moron. Not exactly, because he was openly advocating for his own death. quote:In June of 1929, Panzram bludgeoned a prison employee to death, and his autobiographical project was abruptly terminated. At his murder trial in 1930, Panzram told the judge that he didn't need a lawyer, he wanted to plead guilty and let the state prove its case unhindered. Upon due consideration, he was found guilty and sentenced to hang on September 5, 1930. Panzram was pleased, and admonished the Society for the Abolishment of Capital Punishment for trying to save his life: Also, when he beat the guard to death, he immediately turned himself in and said he had definitely killed that guard and was pleased to have done so. Carl Panzram posted:I look forward to a seat in the electric chair or dance at the end of a rope just like some folks do for their wedding night. Reading the collection of his letters is worth it. He is an extremely odd jumble. He definitely wanted to die, and he intended to take other people with him. Pick has a new favorite as of 07:35 on Nov 6, 2016 |
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He sounds like an edgy rear end in a top hat...OR....was he a quantum leaper ensuring he died so he couldn't give birth to someone who'd grow up to be worse than ten Hitlers???
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Carl Panzram is the kind of guy who 15-year-old Hot Topic shoppers fantasize about becoming before they grow up. Only Panzram's angst was from being beaten and raped as a kid and then cycling in and out of old-timey prison the rest of his existence. Not because his mom made him do his algebra.
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WickedHate posted:I've always got the impression serial killer profiling is as much of a science as wine tasting. It's not that bad. It's really useful at narrowing down the suspect pool, for instance. My favorite prediction that turned out true was John Douglas predicting the perp would have a speech impediment.
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Pick posted:He definitely wanted to die, and he intended to take other people with him. Like the Republican Party. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h1F93EJIds
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What was the name of the British paedofile (redundant, I know) who was a politician that looked like a character out of a GWAR video? I'm not talking about Jimmy Savile I remember this fat rear end had a more British sounding name and looked more rapey and gross. I remember looking at a picture of him and thinking "that overweight British man abuses the position of power he is in to do bad things to defenseless people". It was Cyril Smith all I had to do was GIS overweight british politician and he was the first picture. The sack of poo poo weighed a whopping 419lbs. 
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Pick posted:Carl Panzram is the kind of guy who 15-year-old Hot Topic shoppers fantasize about becoming before they grow up. Only Panzram's angst was from being beaten and raped as a kid and then cycling in and out of old-timey prison the rest of his existence. Not because his mom made him do his algebra. Panzram and Tommy Lynn Sells are really interesting because they actually talked openly about what drove them to kill and what they thought was wrong with them. Like they knew they were hosed up and once caught wanted to understand why. Kuklinski was sort of like that too, but I think he was way more full of poo poo in his interviews than Sells or Panzram.
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