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I guess I'm in the minority of people that actually enjoy pickup groups in this game. I know a lot of people don't like dealing with  goony people at random, but on the other end of it things are absolutely magical when you are on a team that's losing, and someone is like , "Hey [player], can you maybe try switching to X character?" they do, and not only does it turn things around, but that player gets a lot of praise. It is easy in theory to do well with a coordinated group, where everybody understands the expectations of them. It is a lot more exceptional when you get 5 other random players on board with it, and I enjoy that.
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there is actually literally no situation where I would prefer to have team stacking allowed also I'm pretty positive that hack does not prevent right clicks? I have heard multiple times now that hack(and EMP) do not prevent defense matrix.
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Nov 6, 2016 05:37
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KyloWinter posted:roadhog is literally pudge and also my wife
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Nov 6, 2016 05:44
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The best part is that there's literally a give-no-fucks arcade mode right there so that's going to become the new weedplay mode.
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Nov 6, 2016 06:22
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Do you move at the same speed horizontally when going up stairs as when you walk on a flat surface?
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FAUXTON posted:The best part is that there's literally a give-no-fucks arcade mode right there so that's going to become the new weedplay mode. The true weedplay mode is already in the game, it's called 'Custom game -> All Lucio AI -> Sit back with Ana and practice sniping while they dance and doot'
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Nov 6, 2016 07:06
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Raskolnikov posted:I'm pretty pissed about Sombra having stealth. Okay, I am mad about videogames pissed. Is there any chance in hell they are going to rework it into something not nearly as broken? Wow a wailing baby is already gearing up to try to screech Blizzard into nerfing something that's going to be probably perfectly fine? This definitely isn't something I've seen before in multiple other Blizzard properties
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Have to say I'm really happy QP is finally getting hero limits. Not only was stacks annoying to play with, but the game was just never balanced to have multiples of the same hero. Some stacks were a nightmare to play against, like multiple Meis for instance.
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Nov 6, 2016 07:33
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Maybe that image of sombra was leaked to allow cosplayers to make costumes ready for blizzcon
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people say this is fake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RagwXwff_90 however..... look where she is running here.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVKR5PnBp7I coincidence - i think not!
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What's the range on Sombra's hacking ability? Because if it's any farther than point-blank then Winston's got yet another hard counter.
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Main Paineframe posted:What's the range on Sombra's hacking ability? Because if it's any farther than point-blank then Winston's got yet another hard counter. About 9-10 meters or so according to various vague sources on Reddit. I'm not sure that alone really makes her a "hard counter" to Winston considering that's barely longer than the range on his own weapon (8 meters) and any damage whatsoever interrupts both her hacking ability and disrupts her cloak. Unless she's camped on a hacked health pack I think it's going to be the other way around, Winston will probably be sufficient to either force Sombra to translocate out of danger or he'll be in a good position to kill her since outside of her abilities she's basically a slower, less powerful Tracer with slightly more health. Also according to Reddit, so grain of salt and all, her gun does about 160 DPS, 8 damage per round at optimal range before falloff and 20 rounds per second, with a spread that works similar to Widowmaker's assault rifle or Tracer's pistols in that it instantly blooms to max spread so you can't feather-burst accurate headshots. So that's 480 damage off an entire 60 rounds assuming every single round hits over 3 seconds. For comparison's sake, Tracer also does 480 damage over 3 seconds, she does 240 damage by emptying all 40 pulse pistol rounds in a single second but takes a second to reload, so in 3 seconds she can dump two mags into someone. However Tracer does more burst damage over the course of a single second than Sombra does...240 as opposed to 160, which means that a Tracer that gets the drop on a 200 hitpoint support can kill them quicker than a similarly skilled Sombra, and with a quick melee afterwards can even finish off someone like a Reaper or Mei. Like all autofire weapons, armor affects each of Sombra's bullets separately which means she's going to do less damage against heroes whose health is mostly armor, like Reinhardt or D.Va (barring headshots, of course).
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Got invited to a group playing QP and everyone went attack Genji on Volskya Industries. I found myself not enjoying being on one of those teams at all. Maybe I'm too old for this poo poo.
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AndyElusive posted:Got invited to a group playing QP and everyone went attack Genji on Volskya Industries. If the enemy team isn't smart enough to switch to 4 Winstons then they deserve it
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Its QP. The collective intelligence of your entire team is barely enough to keep them breathing.
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For every 5 people on a team trying there's one who wants to gently caress around as attack Bastion, one who thinks Widow/Hanzo practice time is the reason QP exists, and one poor soul going Torbjorn not because the bugger is fun but because they're under the sincere impression he's the Engineer from Tf2 and must be deployed for defense.
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mind the walrus posted:For every 5 people on a team trying there's one who wants to gently caress around as attack Bastion, one who thinks Widow/Hanzo practice time is the reason QP exists, and one poor soul going Torbjorn not because the bugger is fun but because they're under the sincere impression he's the Engineer from Tf2 and must be deployed for defense. Wait so you're supposed to practice snipers in comp?
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junan_paalla posted:Wait so you're supposed to practice snipers in comp? Steps to practice snipers: 1) Turn off your PC.
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If you really want to play Widowmaker that badly there's always Counter-Strike
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Opposing Farce posted:If you really want to play Widowmaker that badly there's always Counter-Strike
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Is it kosher to get onto voice coms and start doing a bunch of puns in a fake french accent during a counterstrike match?
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Sniping Pharah out of her ult and hearing "like mother like daughter" is the sickest own in the game imho
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EmmyOk posted:Sniping Pharah out of her ult and hearing "like mother like daughter" is the sickest own in the game imho The first time I heard that I got killed because I stopped to laugh.
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WanderingKid posted:Its QP. The collective intelligence of your entire team is barely enough to keep them breathing. Comp players must be really smart
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Sancho posted:Comp players must be really smart Add an IQ requirement to each hero IMO
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Solo comp is a special hell if your rank dips below 2500 and I don't know why I ever do it E: Like I get being annoyed with a Genji that won't switch on defence but the appropriate response is not to switch to Hanzo to "teach them a lesson" and then say you'll switch back when you die after being actually makes them switch to a tank they can't play TheKingofSprings fucked around with this message at 16:52 on Nov 6, 2016 |
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Nov 6, 2016 16:45
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Main Paineframe posted:What's the range on Sombra's hacking ability? Because if it's any farther than point-blank then Winston's got yet another hard counter. meanwhile winston can chase sombra more easily than most characters and easily find her if she's invisible nearby.
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Yeah, Sombra's going to change the tank meta. The two Best Tanks (Rein and Zarya) are super vulnerable to being hacked and don't have great tools for dealing with her mobility or invisibility. D.Va and Winston, on the other hand, both have mobility to catch her with and keep up with her, they have weapons that cover a large area of effect so they're good for finding invisible Sombras, and they both have escape tools to avoid being hacked. Roadhog isn't particularly good against her but with how his cooldowns work also probably won't notice being hacked much, unless he really needed to ult or heal in the next 6 seconds. Her gun shreds him but she's as vulnerable to instant death via hook as any other non-Reaper Offense hero. He comes out kinda neutral.
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Sombra looks good but factoring in the opportunity cost of having a hero with more direct damage output I don't think she'll be particularly OP.
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gnome7 posted:Yeah, Sombra's going to change the tank meta. The two Best Tanks (Rein and Zarya) are super vulnerable to being hacked and don't have great tools for dealing with her mobility or invisibility. D.Va and Winston, on the other hand, both have mobility to catch her with and keep up with her, they have weapons that cover a large area of effect so they're good for finding invisible Sombras, and they both have escape tools to avoid being hacked. People have been saying Sombra counters Zarya but Zarya's bubble still interrupts her normal hacking attempt, so I dunno about that. As far as dealing with invisibility goes, Zarya's got a weapon that either tosses out splash damage bombs or gives her a continual damage beam, both of which seem useful for poking a Sombra attempting to cloak and disrupting it (plus remember damage interrupts hacking as well). The translocator remains her ace in the hole but forcing Sombra to port out isn't a terrible result. Now her ult absolutely shuts Zarya down for a bit yeah, it pops her bubbles, reduces her to 200 hitpoints, and locks her own ult, but just generally trying to hack Zarya seems like it's going to be a riskier proposition.
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gnome7 posted:Yeah, Sombra's going to change the tank meta. The two Best Tanks (Rein and Zarya) are super vulnerable to being hacked and don't have great tools for dealing with her mobility or invisibility. D.Va and Winston, on the other hand, both have mobility to catch her with and keep up with her, they have weapons that cover a large area of effect so they're good for finding invisible Sombras, and they both have escape tools to avoid being hacked. In addition, the new wombo-combo is looking to be Sombra's EMP into a D.Va ult. No shields, no problem! p. excited about D.Va becoming super relevant.
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Hughmoris posted:Was there any mention of the upcoming Symmetra rework at Blizzcon? It'll be out by the end of the year, but not with the Sombra PTR release. Kai Tave posted:People have been saying Sombra counters Zarya but Zarya's bubble still interrupts her normal hacking attempt, so I dunno about that. As far as dealing with invisibility goes, Zarya's got a weapon that either tosses out splash damage bombs or gives her a continual damage beam, both of which seem useful for poking a Sombra attempting to cloak and disrupting it (plus remember damage interrupts hacking as well). The translocator remains her ace in the hole but forcing Sombra to port out isn't a terrible result. Now her ult absolutely shuts Zarya down for a bit yeah, it pops her bubbles, reduces her to 200 hitpoints, and locks her own ult, but just generally trying to hack Zarya seems like it's going to be a riskier proposition. Yeah the EMP vulnerability is the part of her kit that will make Zarya less auto-pick. I don't expect Sombra to be OP at all, but I do expect her to force tank lineups to mix it up a bit just to play around her. Her EMP completely shutting down both Zarya and Reinhardt in a huge way will give those characters something to actually be afraid of.
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gnome7 posted:It'll be out by the end of the year, but not with the Sombra PTR release. Eh, maybe. Zarya and Rein are still Just That Good barring any nerfs migrating from the PTR to live that I expect even the threat of an EMP might not be enough to dislodge them from consideration. Getting shut down by an ult is a lot different than getting shut down by regular abilities. If Sombra could do to Zarya what, say, Reaper can do to Winston then I'd entirely agree that she's poised to shake the meta up, but especially with ults getting adjusted to require an even longer charge time it seems like the game is actually going to be moving a bit further away from ults as a regular component of teamfights.
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Tender Bender posted:Sombra looks good but factoring in the opportunity cost of having a hero with more direct damage output I don't think she'll be particularly OP. it's entirely down to the ult. mei's a super popular pick for pro teams now after blizzard buffed her ult and nothing else. sombra does her one better by having an ult that removes enemy ults, abilities, and hard counters some of the best heroes in the game. it comes down to what the game looks like once the ptr patch hits and the ult charge rate change is live; if she gets ult fast enough, she'll be top tier off of that alone the funny thing is, emp helps rein and zarya as much s it hurts them because of how well it combos with graviton and earthshatter
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Supercar Gautier posted:I assumed it would mess up her beams, but even if not, it WILL mess up her escape option. And Mercy is the character least capable of stopping a hack, because her gun isn't usually equipped and it fires slow projectiles. Not if she's on the ball. If Sombra is in range to hack Mercy, and Mercy can see it, Sombra is going to die or retreat. Mercy's gun is projectile, but by no means slow, and assuming Mercy can aim, she can saw through 200 health like nobody's business. Unless you want to be SURE to stop the Res ult, I would think hacking Mercy would never be preferable to just filling her with bullets.* *If she insists on never dropping her beam to defend herself, hacking her so she doesn't retreat is still correct. For some reason, about 90% of Mercy players forget she has a more-than-serviceable gun.
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Manatee Cannon posted:it's entirely down to the ult. mei's a super popular pick for pro teams now after blizzard buffed her ult and nothing else. sombra does her one better by having an ult that removes enemy ults, abilities, and hard counters some of the best heroes in the game. it comes down to what the game looks like once the ptr patch hits and the ult charge rate change is live; if she gets ult fast enough, she'll be top tier off of that alone Yeah, I think the actual new wombo combo is going to be EMP into Earthshatter, which is a lot less avoidable than a D.Va bomb.
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Manatee Cannon posted:it's entirely down to the ult. mei's a super popular pick for pro teams now after blizzard buffed her ult and nothing else. sombra does her one better by having an ult that removes enemy ults, abilities, and hard counters some of the best heroes in the game. it comes down to what the game looks like once the ptr patch hits and the ult charge rate change is live; if she gets ult fast enough, she'll be top tier off of that alone To be fair I think Mei coming into the meta was on the back of people figuring out how devastating her wall can be as much as the Blizzard buff. The buff definitely helped, of course, but I think if Blizzard put Blizzard back where it was before people would still run Mei for her wall and the tankiness and stalling power of Ice Block.
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Somba seems insanely loving good. Basically you can camp healing packs by hacking them and dropping your translocator on them, then you go invisible and harass endlessly. And her ability hack enemy players and her ult basically destroys the "everyone just spams their ults all at once" defense/offensive strategies. Her translocator is going to be used for some insanely evil poo poo by people smarter than me.
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