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It's really weird, because it's structured so Banner 1 is Aphinaud/Y'shtola/Minfilia, and Banner 2 is Yda/Papalymo/Thancred, but they still stick Papalymo's new SSB on Banner 1. I mean, I'm all for a stacked banner so I don't mind, but it's still a little odd. Banner 2 has some good stuff; Papalymo's BSB is the Fire version of Maria's BSB, Yda gets a Full Break with Greased Lightning/Self Stoneskin Commands, and Thancred gets an Imperil Fire with either has a spammable Physical Blink in physical heavy fights or a 6 hit burst command for magical fights. It's also well structured if you want to make or already have a Fire team as all three bursts (+Yda's new Wall Break self buff SSB) are Fire. It'd be a pretty amazing banner on any other event.
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Note that on the base level, Shout does provide a stronger offensive boost compared to Vessel of Fate, so on a purely physical team with no other Boostgas, Shout will still be better for straight up damage boosting. Where Vessel of Fate's other advantage is its strong commands as well; almost any (non-healer) character can RW it and then go on to do some damage with the commands, no matter how barren their skillset is otherwise.
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Attestant posted:For starters, you're mitigating the wrong damage type. Daedalus has only one magica attack (Piercing Darkra), which you can take care of with that Magic Lure + a Dark resist item. So change to Power Breakdown + Protectga instead. Then, is it possible to have a setup where the Saint Cross and Banishing Strike are on your Bow and Sword users? Daedalus is stupid tanky, and you want to hit the weakness when you can. All of that was taken into account! With some pushing, I managed to get him. Thanks you!
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FF12 event ends tommorow...and I think its finnally gonna happen. Im finally not going to be able to finish an event. Figures it'd be based around a game I dont like and a character I hate. Daedalus is unadulterated horseshit.
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Shoenin posted:FF12 event ends tommorow...and I think its finnally gonna happen. Im finally not going to be able to finish an event. I basically had to Hit and Run him for a while, honestly, and stack in more Debuffs. Bartz had 5* Bow with Lifesiphon/Dismissal(didnt help), spammed BSB and SSB Faris had Thief's Revenge and Power Breakdown, also spammed her BSB(and burst actions) Leon had Magic Lure and Banishing Strike(and slapped Hand of the Emperor) Tyro did SG, Full Break and Saint's Cross(and Keeper's Tome) Eiko did Rebirth and her other Hastega, while healing with Curaja and Protectga. RW was Shout. Everyone else had some 4+++ synergy weapons. I basically slammed everything I could in the first few rounds, smacked him until RIGHT before half way health, refreshed everything then and kept going. I kept Medicas charges ready just in case he decided it was swell to start spamming AoEs.
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Its not even the AOE's that get me, that's manageable. Its the fact he has an insanely retarded "why would you put something like this as a regular attack" Proc Stop, in a game that has no defense or even way to cure it. Can't even direct it either so if it hits and proc's the healer, GG. His Piercing Darka also completely obliterates someone despite SG/Shellga and Fullbreak/down. I guess I can try to mitigate the latter with Draw Magic. The former is possibly the most sheer form of retarded bullshit FFRK has done in global.
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Lure Magic + Shadow resistance takes care of Piercing Darkra. Stop is more troublesome, but it is possible to overwrite it with a Stop from a low MND character, like Celes or Quina. If not, you can just S/L til it doesn't Stop and burst him down before he uses it again. Physical blink also prevents the attack from even connecting in the first place. And really, Daedalus isn't even close to the worst FFRK has in store for us. Now that U+++s are no longer Cid's Mission, they have to be a step above U++s. ApplesandOranges fucked around with this message at 07:25 on Nov 6, 2016 |
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I give up on the U++ for FF12. At first the Darkra was the issue, hitting my guys without dark resist equipment for insane amounts of damage. I changed my strategy up to include some magic blink which dealt with that - then I got him to 50% HP for the first time and just, no thanks. Stopping people at will for a ridiculously long time, spamming physical and magical damage everywhere. I'm sure I could beat it with time and effort and hones but those 2 crystals are not worth it. Shame too because I have decent FF12 synergy - Balthier + SSB (which everything resists in this event lol), Ashe's first ever SB but at 8* but with Synergy is a good physical attacking sword, and Gabranth's armor which has good stats and resists dark (but the boss himself absorbs dark so can't use Gabranth). I dunno maybe I'll give it another try at some point now that I read about Magic Lure/Dark Resist. I have P Cecils first ever SB for magic lure, maybe I can have him use that, Banishing Blade and Saint's Cross. Honestly I think having no damage dealing BSBs/OSBs is starting to become an issue as well, I was coasting by on having an entirely SSB party setup for some time and it looks like resists and such are becoming really common.
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Well after several attempts, 30 minutes of running away to fill meter, and having the luck of the loving gods (4 pulsar waves and none did a proc), Daedelus down. Goddamn Terrible fight, I was absurdly lucky none of the Pulsar waves stopped anyone. gently caress his poo poo.
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Well poo poo, my luck is good lately. On a single 11-pull I got clouds osb. I previously had razzmatazz, and after finally beating Daedalus I felt lucky and did a 11-pull on the FFX banner and got apocalypse, wakka's burst, and chaos rod. I now have two great OSBs. The cid missions will be a cakewalk, the first I could do since FFVI where I have insane synergy. Before this pull the only bursts I had were for Tidus and Ramza. Now I have 3 bursts and 2 osbs  Can't believe the luck..
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How does Celes' RM3 compare to Attunement II's elemental weakness buff (and how does that compare to air raid's wind buff, when applicable)?
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PhysicsFrenzy posted:How does Celes' RM3 compare to Attunement II's elemental weakness buff (and how does that compare to air raid's wind buff, when applicable)? +40% damage to Spellblades, compared to the +20% the other options provide.
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I think I'm getting spoiled by all the instant cast mitigation I have now, Daedelus was easy for me
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I thought the Daedalus fight was kicking my rear end until I realized Cecil was self sustaining with his first burst command while everyone else dropped. He soloed the final quarter of his health bar. Got mastery too, medal requirements are really lax these days.
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I beat Daedelus. Beatrix did work. My healer didn't get stopped. That's basically all it came down to. Looking forward to fighting tonight's ultimates tomorrow.
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I set my RW to OSB Tidus with 623 realm synergy attack, apocalypse equipped, and I record dived for the 3% bonus to water damage as well. I can also set to the BSB if preferred Code is rXuE
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ApplesandOranges posted:U+++s When do those start?
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Are the two Freelancer costumes the only new ones in the limited-time Gysahl Exchange that ends tonight? I'm probably not going to get the Lantern and Hat I wanted- still need 12000 Greens and not getting any drops 
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IllegallySober posted:Are the two Freelancer costumes the only new ones in the limited-time Gysahl Exchange that ends tonight? Yeah, everything else is a repeat.
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Attestant posted:Yeah, everything else is a repeat. Cool, thanks. Got those, anyway. Satisfies the completionist in me.
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PhysicsFrenzy posted:How does Celes' RM3 compare to Attunement II's elemental weakness buff (and how does that compare to air raid's wind buff, when applicable)? A good rule of thumb for the Lv99 RMs:
Considering you're comparing a Lv99 RM that boosts Jobclass actions to a Lv65 RM that boosts global damage on weakness hits and another that boosts global damage of a specific element, it's a +40% boost vs a +20% boost in both cases.
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Quick question about the XP bonus RMs - is it worth going after more than one of them, or does a single one apply to the entire party? It looks like at the end of battle there's total XP and that just gets divided between characters, but I can't tell if the bonus is applied to the total amount of xp (so everyone gets a share) or if the bonus procs when it gets divided. Dunno if I should keep just leveling Luneth or if I should go ahead and unlock the other ones from Cid, Relm, and Palom, too. I'm guessing it's per character since I can't think of any other RMs that affect anyone but the user, but I wanted to be sure.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Quick question about the XP bonus RMs - is it worth going after more than one of them, or does a single one apply to the entire party? It looks like at the end of battle there's total XP and that just gets divided between characters, but I can't tell if the bonus is applied to the total amount of xp (so everyone gets a share) or if the bonus procs when it gets divided. Dunno if I should keep just leveling Luneth or if I should go ahead and unlock the other ones from Cid, Relm, and Palom, too. Only the person with the RM gets the boost, yeah, and that boost overwrites synergy bonuses when applicable. (Meaning someone who procs Ace Pilot will only get the 2x EXP from the RM, instead of 3x from stacking the RM and Synergy bonuses.) Luneth's Lv99 version is a 40% proc, whereas the others are a 20% proc.
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KataraniSword posted:Only the person with the RM gets the boost, yeah, and that boost overwrites synergy bonuses when applicable. (Meaning someone who procs Ace Pilot will only get the 2x EXP from the RM, instead of 3x from stacking the RM and Synergy bonuses.) Luneth's Lv99 version is a 40% proc, whereas the others are a 20% proc. Nice, thanks! Guess I'll unlock 'em all and make the sundailies even better. Might as well go for them early since I've got like 90% of the characters left to level up.
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Maybe I'm weird but find the Lv99 RM system kinda annoying. I'd rather take them as random drops after breaking the Lv80 cap, because with the current system it's either boring because you just egg your guys to 99, or it takes forever if you try to get there normally. It's a bit  but I don't like running max level parties because I feel like the EXP is going to waste, and now that we finally get to break Lv80 the most efficient method is to just immediately get your guys to max level again. I know synergy and hones matter a lot more in this game than levels and stats, but I still like the illusion of gradually getting stronger when I level up.
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:Also note that +raw ATK or MAG will have a significantly higher effect than +% damage so long as you aren't ramming the softcap. Terra's level 99 RM (no frills +13% MAG) is probably the best of the bunch other than Luneth's for this reason. For some later, similar-to-that-one-options, if you're stingy with your MC3s(MC3s have never caught up to the unlock rate in JP); There's also Echo's L99 RM notably later, which gives +15% at the cost of... blinding the character. So you know, if they're only using magic, they care very little. There's also later a series of +15% Mag with X gear stuff, though only Krile's(+with Whip) and Hope's(+with Thrown) are really all that great for a spread of characters, and even those're limited. (On the other end of the spectrum, there's Lulu's +15% Magic with Dolls L99 RM, which sure exists alright.) Also, Serah gets a cutrate Devotion that only hits Defense but gives +15% Magic, as an L99 RM, which sure screams "Yeah we know we screwed up and made Devotion too good, oops". Of course, none of these get you an L99 Terra. 
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Nihilarian posted:The experience boost RMs don't stack with synergy? Nope. They override the 1.5x with their 2x when they trigger. It's still a net positive, but not as much of one.
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I'm so happy daylight savings is over. Finally the event times are accurate 
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  Luck held out rather well, in both my available Relics and Daedalus's actions. Firion's Weaponmaster was absolutely the star of the fight, and he was the lowest level member at 65 and forced to the front with the Sun Blade because I don't have it mastered (otherwise I'd have shoved him in the back with a fused Loxley Bow). Penelo had Multi-Break and was dealing ~8500 Diagas, Basch was there for Apocalypse Shield and to rock Banishing Strike, Fran actually had Stop equipped along with Power Breakdown-but not a single Stop occurred in the two times I tried the fight- plus Mist Overload, and Minwu was there for healing and instant Medica. The holy assault burned him down into half health quickly, and from there his favored AoE wasn't doing all that much comparatively- with all the breakdowns, my guys could tank two rounds and Minwu could top that back up. Without a single Stop, he was probably easier than the Ultimate for me. I'll definitely be burning an MC3 lode on Firion.
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 WARNING: The Guado Guardians in the Ultimate fight are not vulnerable to instant death, unlike literally every other time we've done this fight.Don't waste orbs and/or stamina trying cheeky Odin tactics.
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gently caress. I forgot to finish the ffxii event. I was doing the ultinat ++, and was wrecking him too.
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U-DO Burger posted:I'm so happy daylight savings is over. Finally the event times are accurate ... well poo poo, i was still working on the ults 
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All three fights in this event were pretty simple. Sapphire Shot melts everything, so if you have that honed these fights will probably go as smoothly for you as they did for me.
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KnoxZone posted:All three fights in this event were pretty simple. Sapphire Shot melts everything, so if you have that honed these fights will probably go as smoothly for you as they did for me. U+ Geosgaeno being weak to both Saint Cross and Sapphire Shot was basically what let me ace the CM on my first try, honestly. Hastega is really nice to have, and Jecht having Meteor Crush/Sapphire Shot (or Dark Bargain/Sapphire Shot, to taste) makes him a self-sufficient powerhouse against anything weak to Water.
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Okay, I've set Tidus OSB as my RW for this week. Code: KvTo. It's 490 ATK with Synergy, but it's still serviceable as a Nuclear Option for the X Event Ultimates.
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I'm gonna do this event's bonus battles tomorrow, still got sundaily to spend my stamina on and I'm not exactly worried about not finishing it, considering it's made to melt if Tidus's OSB looks at it. Speaking of which, is it worth it to spend a couple mythril on sundaily with double greens? I'd like the exp boost on some guys but I need to save my meager egg collection for OK. I'm at nearly max stamina (~167) so it would be stamina-efficient.
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This ultimate was woefully easy. If you have native shout, use an Abe's All Stars RW, win.
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:I'm gonna do this event's bonus battles tomorrow, still got sundaily to spend my stamina on and I'm not exactly worried about not finishing it, considering it's made to melt if Tidus's OSB looks at it. Yeah I don't understand why people are rushing to do the bonus battles within the first hour when we still have 7 hours of Sundaily with x2 Greens. They'll be there for another week!
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