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Rick posted:Blocking beat writers because you don't like what they say is bush league and the Lakers would have had an empty press room since like the 90s if they did it since both ESPN, Bleacher Report and the local news papers think people only want to read negative Lakers stories. Lol dude Ric Bucher was employed almost exclusively for the purpose of kissing Kobe's rear end constantly
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Bush Did Outer Heaven posted:yeah except Cuban banned the writers because he's upset that ESPN isn't covering his team enough lmao https://twitter.com/ChandlerParsons/status/795476017544568832
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Nov 7, 2016 07:21
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MourningView posted:Lol dude Though he isn't wrong that only negative news stories about the lakers are interesting.
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Nov 7, 2016 09:03
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MourningView posted:Lol dude One part time sideline reporter compared to literally thousands of negative stories doesn't exactly balance it out.
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Nov 7, 2016 09:22
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The Stein thing surprises me. I always thought he was a big Dirk/Mavs homer. Also, what's Parsons' deal? I guess he's not clubbing with Cuban anymore. Also, I'm glad Luke's Lakers are winning games. They've been fun to watch. edit: https://twitter.com/nikebasketball/status/793523775169933313 Jack's Flow fucked around with this message at 09:54 on Nov 7, 2016 |
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Nov 7, 2016 09:48
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Rick posted:One part time sideline reporter compared to literally thousands of negative stories doesn't exactly balance it out. He was one of their main web and studio guys for a long time and it was just the first and most obvious example I could think of. Also there have not exactly been a ton of positive things to say about the team for the last two or three years, but that doesn't mean The Media is out to get you. The persecution complex is annoying enough when it's, like, Blazer fans but come on, man
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Nov 7, 2016 11:28
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Week 2 Power Ratings 1. Cavs - Very good. 2. Clippers - Best one loss team. 3. Spurs - Best two loss team. 4. Hawks - They look pretty great, but have some horrible losses. 5. Thunder - The Warriors loss kind of broke the spell of this team for me but hey, Russ. 6. Hornets - Not sure how it's working but it is. 7. Raptors - The best Raptors team I'm going to mostly ignore. 8. Pistons - Best rating for a team I haven't watched 9. Warriors - Theoretically good. 10. Jazz - Some quality wins and losses to equal or better teams. 11. Lakers - Fun offense, funny defense. 12. Blazers - Anytime they aren't shooting the three or the ball is out of Lillard's hands they look pretty bad, but they keep those moments to a minimum. 13. Bucks - Well, the Pacers and Kings should be theoretically better than them but they beat them. 14. Three Alphas featuring Taj Gibson and Doug Bucket - Might be the last time I can rank them above the irrelevant line in good conscience. In fact it might already be too late for that. -----------------Irrelevant Line Here------------------------------ 28. Sixers - This is still a roster with many people who I'm not sure are better than members of the D-league. But they try really really hard. 29. Wizards - Currently legitimately worse than the team that won single digit games last year. 30. Pelicans - Basketball gods hate them.
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Nov 7, 2016 11:54
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MourningView posted:He was one of their main web and studio guys for a long time and it was just the first and most obvious example I could think of. Also there have not exactly been a ton of positive things to say about the team for the last two or three years, but that doesn't mean The Media is out to get you. The persecution complex is annoying enough when it's, like, Blazer fans but come on, man I don't feel persecuted by it because I understand why they do it, and don't think the media is out to get the Lakers (in fact my whole point was that the Mavs don't have a right to feel persecuted by this). It is a fact though that ESPN has spent nearly the entire history of their web presence using gossip about the Lakers to generate clicks. Are you really disputing that?
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Nov 7, 2016 12:02
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That lakers pick is going to be like 7-10 range. Meh oh well
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Nov 7, 2016 12:03
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The Lakers are the best team with the best coach and the best players. Championship incoming. 
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Nov 7, 2016 12:24
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Rick posted:Week 2 Power Ratings The Sixers managed to hit 10 last year.
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Nov 7, 2016 13:53
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Speaking of the sad, sad WizardsTed Leonsis, Owner posted:“We will have a fantastic training facility, we’ll have the best coaches, we’ll have great young players that we can retain, we’ll eventually be able to land a free agent, we will improve our performance and we’ll wake up and we’ll be a ‘have’ team,” he said. “We’ll be a team that is reflective of our value and our market. Today we’re not.” Great. Super. Right on.
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Nov 7, 2016 15:07
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There's been a lot of chatter about how George Hill and Jeff Teague are working out, but how are the Hawks doing with a point guard rotation of Schroder and something called Malcolm Delaney?
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Nov 7, 2016 15:22
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The Pelicans released Lance Stephenson because they literally have 1 guy who can dribble a basketball up the court.
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Henchman of Santa posted:There's been a lot of chatter about how George Hill and Jeff Teague are working out, but how are the Hawks doing with a point guard rotation of Schroder and something called Malcolm Delaney? Schroeder is decent. 15/7 on okayish shooting numbers please ignore three pointers. ORTG of 106. Not as good as Teague but five years younger and honestly about equal on D
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Nov 7, 2016 15:37
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Rick posted:Week 2 Power Ratings I think you have GS and the Raptors way too low. Hawks and Thunder too high. Pistons being that high is kinda surprising (even though they're my fav team) but I'm assuming that's more due to you not wanting to put a 3 loss team above a 2 loss team. Marcus Morris probably has one of the 10 best contracts in the NBA, especially for it not being a rookie deal. Fun fact-Josh Smith is getting paid more, and for longer, than Morris is!
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Nov 7, 2016 15:54
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Rick posted:It is a fact though that ESPN has spent nearly the entire history of their web presence using gossip about the Lakers to generate clicks. Are you really disputing that? This is true, but its hardly always negative. I guess I can see it being annoying always having the spotlight, but it seems easier to block that out than trying to follow a team that doesn't get any attention whatsoever. Declan MacManus posted:Schroeder is decent. 15/7 on okayish shooting numbers please ignore three pointers. ORTG of 106. Not as good as Teague but five years younger and honestly about equal on D My problem with Teague is that if he isn't able to penetrate, the rest of his game tends to stagnate really quickly. I don't know if Schroeder is better than Teague, but at least he's keeping more options open (even if his shooting isn't one of them).
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Nov 7, 2016 15:56
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Carlosologist posted:hot take: the Warriors should have kept Barnes and the possibility of bench depth instead of going for broke with KD This is what I said when it happened  WELL actually I probably said something about shook and up 3-1 but then this.
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Nov 7, 2016 16:02
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Rick posted:I don't feel persecuted by it because I understand why they do it, and don't think the media is out to get the Lakers (in fact my whole point was that the Mavs don't have a right to feel persecuted by this). It is a fact though that ESPN has spent nearly the entire history of their web presence using gossip about the Lakers to generate clicks. Are you really disputing that? reading about how they're gonna sign every other teams best player as a free agent must truly be a burden I don't dispute they get a ton of coverage. I dispute that it is all or disproportionately negative Carlosologist posted:hot take: the Warriors should have kept Barnes and the possibility of bench depth instead of going for broke with KD were you also a huge Barnes fan when he was going 2-800 in the finals last year? MourningView fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Nov 7, 2016 |
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Nov 7, 2016 16:07
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Lockback posted:This is true, but its hardly always negative. I guess I can see it being annoying always having the spotlight, but it seems easier to block that out than trying to follow a team that doesn't get any attention whatsoever. Try following a team where all national coverage is like "This guy rules but needs to get off his team immediately! What if <x> team can trade for him with <y> and <z> scrubs?! Maybe throw in <garbage> pick to sweeten the deal, although it's already a much better return for him than anyone else can give, imo.". e: not hearing this constantly is why I follow this thread
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Kibner posted:Try following a team where all national coverage is like "This guy rules but needs to get off his team immediately! What if <x> team can trade for him with <y> and <z> scrubs?! Maybe throw in <garbage> pick to sweeten the deal, although it's already a much better return for him than anyone else can give, imo.". You're responding to a Timberwolves fan...
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Kibner posted:Try following a team where all national coverage is like "This guy rules but needs to get off his team immediately! What if <x> team can trade for him with <y> and <z> scrubs?! Maybe throw in <garbage> pick to sweeten the deal, although it's already a much better return for him than anyone else can give, imo.". I had season tickets for the Timberwolves when Kevin Love became a superstar. It was excruciating having to hear my team talked about like a AA farm team. My condolences to fans of Anthony Davis and Cousins. MourningView posted:were you also a huge Barnes fan when he was going 2-800 in the finals last year? I think a bunch of people warned that losing Bogut/Ezeli/Barnes is going to affect the Warriors, even with adding KD. Also remember its November, and people write off really, really good teams way too early (see, Cavaliers twice in the last two years). The Warriors will eventually go on a tear where they win 29 out of 30 or something. They'll be fine.
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Nov 7, 2016 16:30
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Can someone post that insider article on embiid
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Lockback posted:This is true, but its hardly always negative. I guess I can see it being annoying always having the spotlight, but it seems easier to block that out than trying to follow a team that doesn't get any attention whatsoever. Teague playbook: 1. Pick and Roll 2. Drive and Kick 3. Give and Go 4. Stand and Wait He hit some threes last year but otherwise reminds me of Devin Harris in his prime which isn't necessarily bad but really goes downhill quickly Schroder (which is pronounced Shroo-der; I thought it was Shray-der and everyone else pronounces it like the Peanuts dude) gives you about the same production but is still young enough to expand his skillset significantly, provided he is given enough burn to do so. It's still early but it looks like the Hawks made a really smart decision
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Lockback posted:I had season tickets for the Timberwolves when Kevin Love became a superstar. It was excruciating having to hear my team talked about like a AA farm team. My condolences to fans of Anthony Davis and Cousins. The Warriors have a lovely defense and unless Durant decides to devote himself to protecting the rim and pulling down boards I don't think there's a "groove" they can get into
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Nov 7, 2016 16:39
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IcePhoenix posted:You're responding to a Timberwolves fan... Yeah, but people aren't saying that about KAT, afaik. I did forget about those Garnett years, somehow. Point still stands!  e: And I forgot that Kevin Love was once an extremely highly valued player. Just derp'ing everywhere this morning.
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Nov 7, 2016 16:41
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In my defense, I've gone through this with AD, CP3, and NOLA having an NBA team, in general. Probably why I gravitated towards the Kings as my second team.
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Nov 7, 2016 16:43
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Kibner posted:Yeah, but people aren't saying that about KAT, afaik. They are 
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Kibner posted:In my defense, I've gone through this with AD, CP3, and NOLA having an NBA team, in general. And the Wolves have had KG, Love, Starbury, and pre draft Rubio
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Nov 7, 2016 16:48
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Declan MacManus posted:And the Wolves have had KG, Love, Starbury, and pre draft Rubio To be fair, I'm pretty sure Marbury demanded a trade before those hot takes ever started.
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IcePhoenix posted:They are Really? Already? He actually has some quality players next to him, though!
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The point of power rankings isn't to say which team you think will be the best, it's which teams are the best right now. As long as the Warriors have their dick in the dirt, their rating is going to reflect that
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Nov 7, 2016 16:56
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Declan MacManus posted:And the Wolves have had KG, Love, Starbury, and pre draft Rubio I honestly wasn't really following the NBA when they had KG or Starbury. I watched the '92 Olympics and the Barkley Rockets teams as a kid. Didn't pay attention again until the playoffs where CP3, West, and Chandler beat the Mavs. I actually didn't know NOLA had an NBA team until that moment, lol. They were literally never talked about where I lived, which was anywhere between 45-90 minutes away from the city.
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MourningView posted:were you also a huge Barnes fan when he was going 2-800 in the finals last year? I should have included a should of, haha 'm not a Warriors fan or anything, I was just providing a faux hot take for humor. I think if the Warriors believed they had no shot at KD, they would have looked to fill out the wing with someone else that fit the offense and load up on depth. but still, one really ice cold series doesn't break a player or anything
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straight up brolic posted:The point of power rankings isn't to say which team you think will be the best, it's which teams are the best right now. As long as the Warriors have their dick in the dirt, their rating is going to reflect that wikipedia posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_rating_system#Theory I did not realize how deep Rick and Marc Stein were getting into this.
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alansmithee posted:I think you have GS and the Raptors way too low. Hawks and Thunder too high. I'll have you know that the Thunder are the number one team in the West right now and are being disrespected by having that scrub clippers and overrated spurs team in front of them
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I guess watch the Hawks if you like defense? Dwight is a lot of things, but he is much more of a defensive help than Horford in both rim protection and shoring up their bad rebounding weakness.
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Declan MacManus posted:The Warriors have a lovely defense and unless Durant decides to devote himself to protecting the rim and pulling down boards I don't think there's a "groove" they can get into Steph and Klay aren't making shots at nearly the rate they historically do (Klay's actually a slightly negative player up to this point). If they get back to their norms (assuming Curry's somewhat between last year's GOAT performance and the previous couple "just really good" performance) they could easily have a "groove". Also by the numbers it can't be stated how horrible Klay is so far.
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Klay is not going to look as good this year. Everytime a star player gets moved to the 3rd wheel role it takes a long time to adjust and they never look as good as they were when they were a primary/secondary role. See: Bosh, Chris and Love, Kevin.
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Lockback posted:Klay is not going to look as good this year. Everytime a star player gets moved to the 3rd wheel role it takes a long time to adjust and they never look as good as they were when they were a primary/secondary role. See: Bosh, Chris and Love, Kevin. Ehh, Bosh's role just changed. And Love was/is more just underutilized. Like Klay's bricking everything now, dude's actually got negative WS.
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