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Does anybody else think this girl is just playing good cop/ bad cop mind games with Daryl?
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Nov 7, 2016 19:48
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Has anyone commented how they have used the same exact preview of Negan banging on the gate like 3 times now?
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Nov 7, 2016 20:03
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They used sad puppy lip quiver Rick as well, which they aways do. Upcoming and next week are used interchangeably to sucker you in
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Nov 7, 2016 20:29
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JustinMorgan posted:Does anybody else think this girl is just playing good cop/ bad cop mind games with Daryl? I think she wants the D
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Nov 7, 2016 21:03
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JustinMorgan posted:Does anybody else think this girl is just playing good cop/ bad cop mind games with Daryl? I think that's what they're trying to do with her as well, or at least, give us the impression that's what they're doing. I was waiting for Daryl to respond to the name question with "Daryl, but you can call me Neegan". They keep toying with the idea that they're going to kill him off and it's super boring because we know that they know that they're not going to do that any time soon for fear of viewers switching off.
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Nov 7, 2016 21:17
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Nutsak posted:viewers switching off I legit forgot this was even on last night after not missing an episode since season 1 premiere. Had to catch the 11 o clock recast Thats how bad this season is
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Nov 7, 2016 21:30
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Good, they should kill Daryl off so this show can get canceled within our lifetimes. I can just imagine it now, a world without The Walking Dead ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ugq1Mgofr4 
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Nov 7, 2016 22:03
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Nutsak posted:I think that's what they're trying to do with her as well, or at least, give us the impression that's what they're doing. Yeah I assumed Negan had her earmarked to become Daryl's "wife" for when/if he comes over to Team Negan or to use her as a potential victim if Daryl tries to leave. I actually liked this episode.
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Nov 7, 2016 22:03
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The episode was alright. I actually really enjoyed last week's episode with The Kingdom, but I already knew from the previews that this would be a Daryl episode. Getting some insight on Dwight was interesting, and watching Daryl get dragged around and degraded for an hour was somewhat satisfying. Next week they're supposed to show Negan in Alexandria and Rick supposedly renounces his leadership to all the Alexandrians. Wonder how that will go over with everyone. So far I like this season better than last season.
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Nov 8, 2016 00:06
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screamin and creamin posted:So this Negan guy surrounds himself by desperate armed guys that he did terrible things to and who have nothing whatsoever to lose by shooting him while he's essentially defenseless against them, got it. Negan has gone full 1984 and successfully politicised the orgasm. But actually the armed guys he keeps around have loads to lose. Right now the people working for points, the 'proletariat' if you will, are providing the labour that keeps Negan's hand-picked army in cold beers, warm beds and like, they can have wives and families too. If all that costs is kneeling and saying "Negan" then gently caress it, no different to humouring King Ezekial really. Honestly Daryl was an idiot not to join up. Happy Noodle Boy posted:As long as she says yes. Yeah Negans "no rape (unless it's systemic coercion then it totally doesn't count lol)" rule was a nice little bit of characterisation. But a distressing number of comic fans still took it as 'see he's not that bad really!' instead of picking up on the hypocrisy/megalomania/social control of it.
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Nov 8, 2016 00:15
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Luvcow posted:Yeah I assumed Negan had her earmarked to become Daryl's "wife" for when/if he comes over to Team Negan or to use her as a potential victim if Daryl tries to leave. Isn't she Negans Wife/Concubine now? He's trying to get her pregnant too so I can't imagine he'd hand her off to Daryl plus he can use the Alexandrians to keep Daryl in line. I thought the episode was ok. There wasn't a lot of follow through with all the threats; the lady said Daryl would be better off going back to his cell with an onimous 'it will be MUCH worse if you get caught' but all he got was a beating. Negan gave him three options (with no 'door number 4'), join him fully, join him and work for points or end up as a walker on the fence, Daryl defied him and ends up....back in his cell? Negan is doing way too many fakeouts. Every sentence Negan speaks seems to be some sort of threat so the more he talks and doesn't deliver the less menacing he gets. 'Lucille feels disrespected...but she's not thirsty....BUT IM THIRSTY....so I'll get a drink!'. Aye very good Negan. What was the '39' thing written down in the notepad in the opening?
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Nov 8, 2016 01:34
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I liked the Kingdom episode the best so far, because it's been the only episode this season that didn't feel like they just padded out 25 minutes to somehow fill an hour
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Nov 8, 2016 01:34
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magpie posted:Isn't she Negans Wife/Concubine now? He's trying to get her pregnant too so I can't imagine he'd hand her off to Daryl plus he can use the Alexandrians to keep Daryl in line. i just assumed Negan had tons of wives and that she had access to Darryl only because Negan allowed it and wanted it. It seems they're trying to make Negan into some master behavior specialist but like other people have said it makes no sense that no one has just shot him at this point.
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Nov 8, 2016 01:42
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Anyone get their heads bashed in episode 2 or 3?
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Nov 8, 2016 01:49
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Luvcow posted:i just assumed Negan had tons of wives and that she had access to Darryl only because Negan allowed it and wanted it. It seems they're trying to make Negan into some master behavior specialist but like other people have said it makes no sense that no one has just shot him at this point. Yeah that makes sense I suppose, she wouldn't be wondering about the prison wing if he didn't want her to. I dunno, people often fall in line behind some pretty reprehensible leaders. His top henchmen have every intensive to protect him, do his bidding and take out any malcontents.
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Nov 8, 2016 02:01
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Vanderdeath posted:The one reason I remembered the diabetic sister was because Negan was right; Sherry's sister was really, really attractive.  "Super-hot."screamin and creamin posted:So this Negan guy surrounds himself by desperate armed guys that he did terrible things to and who have nothing whatsoever to lose by shooting him while he's essentially defenseless against them, got it. Yeah I don't understand that part either. He has a bat. And everyone around him, even his most closest, personal lieutenants, are still guys he treats like poo poo, constantly tests, and plays mind games with. I could understand if he had some sort of inner circle of best bros who prop him up, but literally everyone would be better off personally if he was gone. 
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Nov 8, 2016 02:08
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But ultimately they have a decent quality of life at this point, where pre-Negan they were likely on the run and starving. The saviours are brutal and Negan is a dick, but who would take his place if they revolted? They know they need him to keep this quality of life going.
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Nov 8, 2016 02:15
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magpie posted:Yeah that makes sense I suppose, she wouldn't be wondering about the prison wing if he didn't want her to. Yeah and thats what i guess we have to assume Astroman posted:
but i keep coming back to this, I wish they'd shown us someone above Dwight who wasn't so obviously conflicted
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Nov 8, 2016 02:17
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Jerry is by far the best new character in quite a while.
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Nov 8, 2016 02:50
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Medullah posted:But ultimately they have a decent quality of life at this point, where pre-Negan they were likely on the run and starving. The saviours are brutal and Negan is a dick, but who would take his place if they revolted? They know they need him to keep this quality of life going. They'd be better off simply shooting him and joining the Kingdom.
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Nov 8, 2016 02:54
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Yeah they didn't sell the whole "warrior class" special privileges thing too well. At least have Dwight getting ingredients for him and some bros instead of it seeming like he's a brooding postmaster white gloving a new recruits bunk cuz his peener got nipped
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Nov 8, 2016 03:25
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magpie posted:What was the '39' thing written down in the notepad in the opening? The Bunk Number of the dude that was beaten in the lunch hall, so he could loot it.
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Nov 8, 2016 03:27
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Lady is just good cop come on it's walking ded
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Nov 8, 2016 03:27
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Being a dictator is hard work. You have to surround yourself with people that are strong enough to defeat your enemies for you, but at the same time not strong enough to challenge you.
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Nov 8, 2016 03:36
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Nthing the whole "having your most loyal armed guys be people you are essentially forcing to work for you one way or the other" is a really dumb way to be a dictator. Of course it is happening in other parts of the world atm, but they literally have nothing to lose aside from not having a designated leader for 4 seconds if they decide to overthrow his rear end. Hell, the Termites had a more believable structure than him, even the Wolves, because they all went through the same tragedy together. Negan just...knew how to kill zombies and fortify a place? We have also not really seen a truly loyal person under him. Like, someone who genuinely believes he is good and strong for the community, or at least as mustache-trilling. They have all been shown as bullied into his service either through intimidation or extortion or "hey, I'm a violent crazy rear end in a top hat but if you love me I won't do anything to you, I promise." I dunno, he's just not a compelling villain and I see no reason why someone shouldn't just off him and do things the way they saw him doing, minus the slavery.
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Nov 8, 2016 05:39
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I have EASY STREET stuck in my head. I watched the last episode somewhat drugfucked last night. It took about 3 hours 'cos I had to keep rewinding it. So I kept replaying Daryl's misery. And re-watched it again this morning. I went to sleep with Easy Street in my head, and woke up with it. I've been trying to flush it out with other tunes, but it's loving locked in.
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Nov 8, 2016 10:14
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Barbie Girl by Aqua You're welcome.
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Nov 8, 2016 10:15
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Also, who was that hot blonde Dwight was doing shots with at the start?
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Nov 8, 2016 10:16
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Blow posted:I have EASY STREET stuck in my head. What's your name?
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Nov 8, 2016 10:58
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Vanderdeath posted:The one reason I remembered the diabetic sister was because Negan was right; Sherry's sister was really, really attractive. Judging by this thread, Justin Bieber needs a restraining order.
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Nov 8, 2016 14:09
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Blow posted:Also, who was that hot blonde Dwight was doing shots with at the start? Put there to make us realise what he's turning down when Negan offers it.
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Nov 8, 2016 15:37
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Astroman posted:What's your name? Negan.
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Nov 8, 2016 15:41
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Blow posted:I have EASY STREET stuck in my head. This is guaranteed to get any song out of your head
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Nov 8, 2016 15:43
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Blow posted:Also, who was that hot blonde Dwight was doing shots with at the start? Negan
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Nov 8, 2016 16:14
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Music is the worst kind of torture.
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Nov 8, 2016 16:53
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ApeHawk posted:Nthing the whole "having your most loyal armed guys be people you are essentially forcing to work for you one way or the other" is a really dumb way to be a dictator. Of course it is happening in other parts of the world atm, but they literally have nothing to lose aside from not having a designated leader for 4 seconds if they decide to overthrow his rear end. "This thing that happens in real life and 'works' is completely unbelievable and dumb." The show may not be presenting it well (that's a matter of opinion of course), but they've dropped all kinds of hints as to why Negan is able to hold them all together with him at the top: He keeps leverage on people and plays them against one another. They show this with Dwight and his wife as an example, but it's implied that everyone in Negan's inner circle is in a similar situation in some way. Ok, so why not just kill Negan, get your loved ones back or whatever, and elect someone else as leader? Because there are factions within this group that hate each other (presumably Negan has done this on purpose)--as soon as Negan is gone and there's a power vacuum, you've got a civil war for control. It's not going to be peaceful. During the sandwich montage we see a guy from that inner circle beat to death over some innocuous poo poo. You'd certainly have people taking revenge on each other for grievances of the past and present. Don't forget that Negan has been assembling this group by absorbing other factions--people in that compound have been responsible for inflicting the same kinds of violence on the friends and family of others in the compound as they did to Rick's group. There's the inertia of the status quo, the Stockholm Syndrome poo poo they're showing Daryl resisting, the perks of being a part of Negan's select group, and the tenuous and fraught nature of alliances within--but the other factor to consider is what happens to all of them when cracks start to show to those on the outside? They're quite literally surrounded by hostile societies with an interest in seeing them ALL dead; some of which are well armed and coordinated. Hilltop, Alexandria, The Kingdom, and however many other groups are being extorted would definitely be looking to pounce at the first signs of weakness.
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Nov 8, 2016 17:58
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Also, the most interesting thing from the last episode was in one small detail: When Dwight stuck that Polaroid of Glenn's smushed head up on the wall of Daryl's cell. Did anyone else get reminded of last season, when Rick's group raided that Savior outpost, and they found the photos of other Lucille victims hung on the walls? We all just kinda assumed it was meant to show that Rick's group was justified in murdering them in their sleep because they were monsters that reveled in violence...but what if they were unwilling peons working for "points" and those were photos of their friends and family that they were forced to leave up there by Negan's 'lieutenants'? I mean, it's been awhile since I watched that episode but weren't there a whole bunch of them living together in lovely bunk housing? Not nice furnished rooms like what Negan was offering Daryl to be a real member of the team.
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Nov 8, 2016 20:10
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You unbelievable bastard. I hate animes and now I have that stuck in my head. You should be tried at the Hague. now I can't stop watching... its been on repeat for an hour.... must...kill... animes edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE9xOAzsWn4 Who am I again? DogsInSpace! fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Nov 8, 2016 |
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Nov 8, 2016 20:55
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wuffles posted:Also, the most interesting thing from the last episode was in one small detail: When Dwight stuck that Polaroid of Glenn's smushed head up on the wall of Daryl's cell. Did anyone else get reminded of last season, when Rick's group raided that Savior outpost, and they found the photos of other Lucille victims hung on the walls? We all just kinda assumed it was meant to show that Rick's group was justified in murdering them in their sleep because they were monsters that reveled in violence...but what if they were unwilling peons working for "points" and those were photos of their friends and family that they were forced to leave up there by Negan's 'lieutenants'? I mean, it's been awhile since I watched that episode but weren't there a whole bunch of them living together in lovely bunk housing? Not nice furnished rooms like what Negan was offering Daryl to be a real member of the team. To be honest, that was kind of in the back of my mind from the beginning, but I just kept telling myself "No..." because I didn't want to believe it. I thought keeping pictures of dead bodies and busted heads over one's bed was a little too over-the-top evil even by TWD standards but decided in a world based on a comic book, it wouldn't be that far of a stretch. But now I'm starting to think that my initial theory was correct.
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Playing the Dead Kennedys -Too Drunk To gently caress on repeat seems to have vanquished that loving Easy Street song from my brain. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ7pgElCPXE
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Nov 8, 2016 22:29
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