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Thor-Stryker
Nov 11, 2005

Captain Invictus posted:

unbelievable

five YEARS on my main guy trying to get a Palm Fossil

make a new character and find one in the very first worm tile I dig up



:suicide:

The RNG does suck.
My first game I only had one rainy day in spring and found an ancient seed in fall.
My second game I had over seven rainy days and found my first ancient seed in spring followed by another four throughout the year.

However, I've still yet to see a meteorite.

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Poque
Sep 11, 2003

=^-^=
First file, I didn't see a void egg until 1.1 put them in Krobus' inventory. New file, the traveler's cart had one the first Friday of the game.

TurnipFritter
Apr 21, 2010
10,000 POSTS ON TALKING TIME

It took me four years to find an Ancient Seed in one file, but I had two (as drops) by the first summer in another.

MrSlam
Apr 25, 2014

And there you sat, eating hamburgers while the world cried.
I've been befriending everybody like crazy in this playthrough and I don't know who I should rescue marry.

The isolated woman who's dad left their family and the mom became an alcoholic and they've been struggling ever since.
The alcoholic who's slowly killing himself and doesn't care and is welcoming the sweet release of death.
The doctor who gave up on his dreams without any patients with a mustache so tragic that he fills his life with model airplanes.
The woman who's so lonely she dances by herself in her house every night and she's losing her grip on sanity.
The woman who's trying so hard to be a better less horrible person.

I realized I've never chosen a marriage candidate who's gotten their poo poo together before. I'm sure that doesn't say anything weird and upsetting about me.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Haley's a surprisingly good choice.

Penny's good too.

My new character'll go with Emily I think, see what her finished path is since I hit 8 on another character and boy, she's got some crazy cutscenes. I can see why people say she's the wizard's kid now.

Poque
Sep 11, 2003

=^-^=
Sam is the best spouse, you literally get to gently caress him in his childhood bedroom while his mom listens outside the door

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
that's weird

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus
I got a meteorite very early in my first game. It landed just outside the house and ruined an area I was going to grow and build in. It took something like two in game years before I had a pick to remove the meteor.

Five playthroughs later I have yet to see another meteor.

TurnipFritter
Apr 21, 2010
10,000 POSTS ON TALKING TIME

Captain Invictus posted:

Haley's a surprisingly good choice.

Penny's good too.

My new character'll go with Emily I think, see what her finished path is since I hit 8 on another character and boy, she's got some crazy cutscenes. I can see why people say she's the wizard's kid now.

Haley has some early game dialogue where she's like "My sister is so weird, I wonder if we're actually related"

Anyway, does anyone actually know what causes your spouse to have a bad mood day? I've only seen it happen once, and it was the day after we decided to adopt another kid, and it's like, yo, if you didn't want another kid you shouldn't have asked.

TurnipFritter fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Nov 8, 2016

Guigui
Jan 19, 2010
Winner of January '10 Lux Aeterna "Best 2010 Poster" Award
I'm thinking of doing an "anti-pierre" and "anti-Joja" run, where I do not buy anything from either of the two, (perhpas with exception to the backpack) and try for the 21 star ending with grandpa.

I can still buy from all the other vendors (Sandy, Alex, Clint, Willie, Travelling merchant, etc...) and see how long it would take me to complete the comunity centre (since I can't go warehouse for my anti-pierre, anti-Joja stance).

That being said, I wonder:
- What would be the best starting farm for this route? Forest would be nice for the wild seeds, but would Riverlands be a better fit?

- CCan it Even be done? (IE completing the community bundles)... I am thinking of the quality produce bundle, which would require me to acquire gold star parsnips, melons and corn or pumpkins...) The only way I THINK it could work, would be to marry a spouse who would have one of these in their gift-giving list: IE: a parsnip, then use that in a seed-maker to then cultivate the seeds.

It would probably be a very long and tedious challenge, but it I the closest to the "third way ending-Sandy and lewis partner up and turn the community centre-into a casino" ending" I can wish for...

Any thoughts if this can be done?

Thor-Stryker
Nov 11, 2005

Guigui posted:

I'm thinking of doing an "anti-pierre" and "anti-Joja" run, where I do not buy anything from either of the two, (perhpas with exception to the backpack) and try for the 21 star ending with grandpa.

I can still buy from all the other vendors (Sandy, Alex, Clint, Willie, Travelling merchant, etc...) and see how long it would take me to complete the comunity centre (since I can't go warehouse for my anti-pierre, anti-Joja stance).

That being said, I wonder:
- What would be the best starting farm for this route? Forest would be nice for the wild seeds, but would Riverlands be a better fit?

- CCan it Even be done? (IE completing the community bundles)... I am thinking of the quality produce bundle, which would require me to acquire gold star parsnips, melons and corn or pumpkins...) The only way I THINK it could work, would be to marry a spouse who would have one of these in their gift-giving list: IE: a parsnip, then use that in a seed-maker to then cultivate the seeds.

It would probably be a very long and tedious challenge, but it I the closest to the "third way ending-Sandy and lewis partner up and turn the community centre-into a casino" ending" I can wish for...

Any thoughts if this can be done?

You'd be stuck with mixed seeds until you farmed enough to get the seed maker or you pay out the rear end to unlock the desert. Cattle + Foraging could possibly be more efficient in the end as you would still have to buy seeds from Sandy after spending the 50K + 500 to get there.

Edit: And of course fishing would be your main income, with the perks you could make 1000-2000 a day,. More if you do the time exploit. Super Cucumbers are a prime source of income once you get to summer.

Thor-Stryker fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Nov 8, 2016

Guigui
Jan 19, 2010
Winner of January '10 Lux Aeterna "Best 2010 Poster" Award
That was my thought - save up enough to unlock the bus, and then buy a crapload of seeds from Sandy...

I thought about it again, and I think it cannot be done. Even if I forgo the backpack, I still have to buy the bouquet from Pierre if I want to marry someone. Crud. Pierre really has a monopoly on this town. That means I won't be able to rely on random gifts from husband or wife to help fulfill the harvesting and quality bundles...

Unless Krobus or the travelling merchant sell the bouquet?

Basically, I want to see if I cancommuni complete the communit

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus
Over a long enough period of time you should be able to get one of each crop from the wandering merchant. Then run those through the seed maker + green house to get as many seeds as you need right?

Poque
Sep 11, 2003

=^-^=

Guigui posted:

That was my thought - save up enough to unlock the bus, and then buy a crapload of seeds from Sandy...

I thought about it again, and I think it cannot be done. Even if I forgo the backpack, I still have to buy the bouquet from Pierre if I want to marry someone. Crud. Pierre really has a monopoly on this town. That means I won't be able to rely on random gifts from husband or wife to help fulfill the harvesting and quality bundles...

Unless Krobus or the travelling merchant sell the bouquet?

Basically, I want to see if I cancommuni complete the communit

I think it's pretty doable and you can probably allow yourself the backpack and bouquets from Pierre just for the sake of your own sanity. The bus is just money and the greenhouse is just foraging + construction, and there's a possibility you get lucky with the travelling merchant and get an early Crocus + Snow Yam for the winter bundle (Winter Root and Crystal Fruit are easy in the mines) to get the Greenhouse up before Winter even hits.

The only thing I can think of that might be trouble is unlocking the ability to pay for the bus - you have to complete four bundles to do that so you'll want to be early active with foraging and fishing, which shouldn't be uncommon especially since fishing can be incredibly lucrative early-game. I'd say take the Forest farm for mixed seeds, since Riverlands farm is nice but you don't have to travel all that far to get to the actual fishing destinations (aside from woodskip but you're probably not completing that bundle early without access to the desert for the Sandfish).

This actually sounds super fun.

Mzbundifund
Nov 5, 2011

I'm afraid so.
You won't need the wandering merchant for seeds - you can just plant a mess of mixed seeds at the beginning of the season and work your way up to a collection of seeds with the seed maker. Mixed seeds are pretty easy to get on the forest farm - there's a unique type of weed that only grows on the forest farm that always drops mixed seeds.

You can supplement your farming xp by petting and milking animals - the bigger issue is going to be getting enough money to get the animals going.

Fishing gets you good money early on, but a really good moneymaker is picking mushrooms in the mine. Every day one level in the mines from 81 - 119 is the "mushroom level", where mushrooms spawn in large numbers. That level is the mushroom level all day, so if you find the mushroom level on a given day, you can go to it over and over on that day to get lots of mushrooms. If you get the mushroom level on floor 81 or 91 or something, you can ride the elevator to floor 80, (which is one of those empty break levels with nothing in it but a chest and a down ladder) then go straight to floor 81, pick all the mushrooms, return to the surface and reset. you can easily get 30,000 to 50,000 money in a single day off this, depending on your foraging skill (higher skill = higher quality mushrooms).

Exactly which mine level is the mushroom level is kind of interesting. The mushroom level moves one floor closer to the surface each day, so if it's on floor 84 today, it'll be 83 tomorrow, and so you'll know in 3 days it will be on 81, so that's your money day. Once the mushroom level hits 81 it resets to a random floor and you'll need to find it again.

I'm still working on the details, I'm not sure yet if the mushroom level skips elevator floors or not, but it's a monstrously powerful way to get money in year 1 if you can find and monitor the thing.

Edit: Looks like mixed seeds only have a small number of possible crops they can grow each season - so yeah you will need to get the others from the wandering merchant.

Mzbundifund fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Nov 8, 2016

Thor-Stryker
Nov 11, 2005

Zephyrine posted:

Over a long enough period of time you should be able to get one of each crop from the wandering merchant. Then run those through the seed maker + green house to get as many seeds as you need right?

Its possible but Seed Maker doesn't unlock until LVL 9 farming. Which takes a season and a half of regular farming to do.

You could also unlock a single Seed Maker by completing the Dye bundle, but you'll need to luck out and get a red cabbage from the traveling Merc.

Poque
Sep 11, 2003

=^-^=
in terms of skills for this run....

Farming: Who cares. Probably animals if you want early-game help and are looking at animals, but neither crops nor animals are going to be your big moneymakers there
Mining: Also probably a personal preference, I love having crazy ore early myself
Foraging: Botanist unless you want to try making wood profitable for early money???
Fishing: absolutely money increase
Combat: Anything but Acrobat or Defender

MrSlam
Apr 25, 2014

And there you sat, eating hamburgers while the world cried.
Wow I've never even heard of the mushroom level. I'll definitely be doing that all winter.

I'm just finishing up my first year on my new run but you guys are making this I Can Do It On My Own thing sound appealing

I Said No
May 21, 2007

jesus dude ur gonna kill someone with that av
You know I just thought, most profession perks affect stuff outside their profession, like foraging perks help out with farming, the trapper fishing perks can get you tons of cheap fertilizer, but Combat perks just don't really do gently caress all for you outside of combat. Would be neat if they did.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

I Said No posted:

You know I just thought, most profession perks affect stuff outside their profession, like foraging perks help out with farming, the trapper fishing perks can get you tons of cheap fertilizer, but Combat perks just don't really do gently caress all for you outside of combat. Would be neat if they did.

Combat = Loot. There are all sorts of resources that are good to farm in the mines/cavern.

Thor-Stryker
Nov 11, 2005
-Botanist is by far the most broken perk in the game with the 1.1 update. Truffles, Beach Coral/Urchins/Clams are all Iridium quality and you can also turn a massive profit off Winter Seeds by using all your farmspace for them.
-Artisan is still godlike for any Keg/Jam-work.

Everything else is just conveniences that don't profit massively but may save you a bit of time/money. Concerned Ape is really bad at balancing, if he's even bothering at all.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Naw, weird would be if she was wearing a superman costume while it happened.

Sono
Apr 9, 2008




Welcome to Sono's Taquiera.



Salsa and sour cream, I swear.

MrSlam
Apr 25, 2014

And there you sat, eating hamburgers while the world cried.
I never realized how much of a luxury Iridium Sprinklers are. Why didn't I make Quality Sprinklers before this run?

MrSlam
Apr 25, 2014

And there you sat, eating hamburgers while the world cried.
Stardew Valley is a great game, and one of the things that makes it so great is that there's not really a right way to play it. Sure, there are things you can do to make it more efficient, to make more money, to make people like you, etc. But in the end you're the one choosing to do all those things. It's at your own pace, it's your own style, and you can choose how you want to play.

That being said and I know I'm about to sound like a total jackass

I bought the game for my dad and he's playing it wrong :cripes: You ever try explaining to your grandparents how to use a computer and you have to hold their hand every step of the way? It's like that

My dad's a smart man. I love him. He's kind and caring and thoughtful. He's always learning new things, he's worked with machines and precise measurements all his life, and he's smart enough to raise kids on his own while rolling with the punches and balancing a budget. Why is it when he sits in front of a computer that it becomes the most complicated machine in the world? He has trouble coordinating the W,A,S,D keys and the mouse at the same time. He seems afraid of the keyboard and keeps it at arm's length which makes his arms tired. He keeps mistaking left clicks for right clicks and has to call me over to the computer to find out what he's doing wrong. He clicks on the wrong things and when nothing happens he keeps clicking expecting it to fix itself. He somehow managed to lose his sword immediately after getting it (I think he thought he was putting it in a chest and moved it to the trash) and then uprooted a chest and left it on the ground overnight and lost that too. He can't seem to tell which plants he watered and which ones he didn't. Fishing is a complete wash. He didn't know that he could access the second line in his inventory. He keeps killing his crops by hitting them with the pickaxe. I asked him why he did that and he said, "I don't know" I explained that there were salmonberries in the bushes and he asked, "Is that good or bad?" :stare:

But I know none of that matters. He's just learning a new system he's never had to deal with before. Regardless he ended up playing til about 4 in the morning last night so I guess he's into it and he's just gotta play it his own way.

Poque
Sep 11, 2003

=^-^=
But what does he think of Pierre?

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
stardew don't have a tutorial, so I'm not surprised he's confused.

Or maybe he's loving with you.

MrSlam
Apr 25, 2014

And there you sat, eating hamburgers while the world cried.
So far the only opinion of the Villagers which he's actively avoiding seems to be that Abigail seems sad :(

When the Pierre / Joja cutscene ended I explained to him that he could go with Joja Corp instead of Pierre but the Community Center would get destroyed and he asked shocked, "Why would anybody do that?" He must care a little bit.

I'm sure he's going to foster a disliking towards Pierre but it's gotta be a slow burn. Gotta wait for that one cutscene where Pierre tells you to buy exclusively from him and he'll probably ask me if Pierre is a good guy or a bad guy.

Okuyasu Nijimura
May 31, 2015


The controls can be kind of maddening for me even though I'm used to that format; but then again I'm a goof using a macbook for gaming.

a7m2
Jul 9, 2012


i play with an xbox controller and it's really chill although probably not as efficient (i don't care)

Poque
Sep 11, 2003

=^-^=

a7m2 posted:

i play with an xbox controller and it's really chill although probably not as efficient (i don't care)

Same, the only things I wish I could do without the keyboard are buy items 5 at a time and grab half of a stack from inventory, and it's not like I'm far away from the keyboard to do just that.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

MrSlam posted:

Stardew Valley is a great game, and one of the things that makes it so great is that there's not really a right way to play it. Sure, there are things you can do to make it more efficient, to make more money, to make people like you, etc. But in the end you're the one choosing to do all those things. It's at your own pace, it's your own style, and you can choose how you want to play.

That being said and I know I'm about to sound like a total jackass

I bought the game for my dad and he's playing it wrong :cripes: You ever try explaining to your grandparents how to use a computer and you have to hold their hand every step of the way? It's like that

My dad's a smart man. I love him. He's kind and caring and thoughtful. He's always learning new things, he's worked with machines and precise measurements all his life, and he's smart enough to raise kids on his own while rolling with the punches and balancing a budget. Why is it when he sits in front of a computer that it becomes the most complicated machine in the world? He has trouble coordinating the W,A,S,D keys and the mouse at the same time. He seems afraid of the keyboard and keeps it at arm's length which makes his arms tired. He keeps mistaking left clicks for right clicks and has to call me over to the computer to find out what he's doing wrong. He clicks on the wrong things and when nothing happens he keeps clicking expecting it to fix itself. He somehow managed to lose his sword immediately after getting it (I think he thought he was putting it in a chest and moved it to the trash) and then uprooted a chest and left it on the ground overnight and lost that too. He can't seem to tell which plants he watered and which ones he didn't. Fishing is a complete wash. He didn't know that he could access the second line in his inventory. He keeps killing his crops by hitting them with the pickaxe. I asked him why he did that and he said, "I don't know" I explained that there were salmonberries in the bushes and he asked, "Is that good or bad?" :stare:

But I know none of that matters. He's just learning a new system he's never had to deal with before. Regardless he ended up playing til about 4 in the morning last night so I guess he's into it and he's just gotta play it his own way.

I'm sorry, but I don't think your dad wants to play computer games. Maybe try real fishing?

Sono
Apr 9, 2008




Dad chat: We've had plenty of people in this thread who didn't know about mass watering/hoeing. It's not like the game gives you any help. Speaking of which,

Poque posted:

Same, the only things I wish I could do without the keyboard are buy items 5 at a time and grab half of a stack from inventory, and it's not like I'm far away from the keyboard to do just that.

Say what now? What's the key for these?

Poque
Sep 11, 2003

=^-^=

Sono posted:

Say what now? What's the key for these?

I think it's a combo of shifts and right clicks, I'm having trouble thinking about it for sure without being in front of the game. :)

I believe to buy five items at a time you hold shift and left click (or if you hold shift and hold right click it just keeps buying a ton of them until you let go). To grab half of a stack in a chest, you hold shift and right-click.

Poulpe
Nov 11, 2006
Canadian Santa Extraordinaire
it's just shift click, for both.

MrSlam
Apr 25, 2014

And there you sat, eating hamburgers while the world cried.

Rutibex posted:

I'm sorry, but I don't think your dad wants to play computer games. Maybe try real fishing?

I kept telling him, "You don't have to play if you don't want to, don't feel obliged" But he kept saying he liked it and thought it was addicting. He's not great with computers but there's a handful of games he plays every day like they were the last form of entertainment in the world. Spider Solitaire, Clash of Clans (but he'll never pay one cent to it), Trade Winds, Plants VS Zombies, and he used to play the SNES version of Civilization like it was crack. When he discovered flash games it was like he'd discovered a part of himself he never knew was there before. Oh, I have two hands? I bought him Silent Hunter III because he liked Silent Service on the NES when we were growing up but Silent Hunter III moves too quickly and is too complicated for him so he only plays the tutorial mission. Over and over. Forever.

And I did suggest we go actual fishing but my dad's the kind of guy who has to be dragged out of the house. I got him Stardew Valley and Bejeweled and between those two he's probably played games more over the past two days than he's been asleep.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
I just realized that Civilization is so old (25 years!) that your dad probably played it when he was younger than I am now.

:gonk:

E: Holy poo poo, MY dad was the same age the year it came out that I am now. Civilization came out closer to the moon landing than to today. Easily.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
My mom still plays vidya, I think she's done so since the days of Dungeon Keeper and Theme Hospital, nearly 20 years now.

Now she's asking me to make a rig that can play Obduction for Xmas. Eesh.

I Said No
May 21, 2007

jesus dude ur gonna kill someone with that av
You know, I had a thought. They put on these big meals at most of the festivals but you don't actually get to eat/drink any despite the locals inviting you to. It might be cool if you could go to Gus and get an option of what dinner you want, and it gives you a buff that lasts a few days.

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Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

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You get to eat some burgers in one of the events. I think the fair?

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