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Looks like Lanni/Stark beat Targ Fealty to win worlds. I haven't had a chance to look at the stream to see the decks yet.
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:Looks like Lanni/Stark beat Targ Fealty to win worlds. I haven't had a chance to look at the stream to see the decks yet. My first thought was, "I'm glad I built a Targaryen Fealty deck yesterday before the cards shot up in price!" LCGs are a neat concept.
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Bottom Liner posted:Compared to most other competitive card games, it absolutely is. Most deck lists are so standardized that you will see zero variation in a lot of games. That's one of my favorite things about this game actually. The deck building space seems much wider than other games. I'm not sure that's true. I'd also say that other games aren't nearly as strict in their initial deckbuilding so there's more natural variety. Like in M:tG, I don't need to pick a certain agenda to have red and blue cards in my deck, nor does having red and blue cards in my deck exclude white/black/green cards. Also in M:tG, tons of well-known decks have huge variety in certain card choices that can be made based on how you want it to run, metagame concerns, or whatever else. That's why I don't really see agenda swapping as providing any variety if the actual factions that are competitive are limited-saying there's variety because there's 10 different lannister decks you can play isn't very indicative of a varied metagame. I don't think it's necessarily a huge problem, and I think Valar may fix a lot of things (or at least we need to wait until it's been out for a bit). I just think it's something that needs to be watched going forward. Also, it's good to be talking GoT again in any context. Feels like people have been waiting for the remaining chapter packs from the second set and the Lanni box for a year now... BJPaskoff posted:My first thought was, "I'm glad I built a Targaryen Fealty deck yesterday before the cards shot up in price!" That's a HUGE advantage, for sure. FFG has really done well with all their LCGs imo.
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That's why I hate FFG's previews coming like 6 months or more before release date, it constantly puts the focus on the future of their games instead of the current state.
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Ran a Lannister Crossing Clansmen deck tonight at a small local tournament. Not only did I come out with a winning record (rare), but I won the whole thing. I've never won a tournament before. General thoughts: -Moon Brothers are really good. Almost disgustingly good. -This deck doesn't need all that much money since you can just dump in dudes for free or cheap all the time. -First Snow is this deck's best friend. It returns all your ambusher dudes to hand. -Pulling your big guys into play with events or Harrenhal can produce huge swings. I dumped in Gregor one turn, triggered PTTS off his military challenge, claimed another, then got a kill off his Pillage, nearly emptying their board. Then I even got a power on Joff when he died from Harrenhal. -Joffrey can amass a surprising amount of power if you're using Harrenhal. General Strategy: -Ideally you get a good icon spread at setup, but mulligan in the rare case you don't see at least one thing that lets you dump in characters for free. You want a solid core of characters on the board that you can then augment from your hand on the fly. -Don't be afraid to First Snow if you'll get even the slightest board advantage out of it. I used it on turn one tonight, twice. -Tyrion is the only character you really care about. Most unique characters are singletons; kill is the same as discard. You don't risk dead draws if someone dies. -Don't be afraid to play defensively and skip a challenge. -Use Building Orders to react to your hand. If you get lots of clansmen, go fishing for Mountains of the Moon. If you have lots of expensive guys, you want Harrenhal. -Your only real card draw comes from Tyrion. Try to win those Intrigue challenges. quote:House Lannister
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So, I've played more Arkham Horror LCG. I was initially really mixed to negative about it, but after some more plays I've really come around. The second and third scenarios have A LOT more going on in terms of mechanics. Also, I feel you have to look at the game through a more RPG lens. There's not really hard win/loss states like LOTR. There's varying degrees of success that influence the overall campaign and it took me a while to stop thinking about the game in terms of needing to win/not lose. And, as someone who enjoys when mechanics and flavor match up this game this game is a loving home run. It really captures the established flavor of the Arkham setting and has appropriate mechanics.
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Not that much really. I may have done it in my first couple games because I didn't know what else to do. I don't recall supplies being an issue. Most of the cards are fairly cheap and the ones that cost 2-3 supplies are usually assets that have repeatable effects that may or may not cost supplies. A lot of them take an action to activate repeatable effects from. The biggest tax on your actions is that everyone should be investigating at least once on their turn to try and keep up with the enemy agenda deck. Things can get pretty hairy pretty quickly.
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Bottom Liner posted:That's why I hate FFG's previews coming like 6 months or more before release date, it constantly puts the focus on the future of their games instead of the current state. loving agreed
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Ok, I have preordered the dumb Arkham game, and I'm entitled to play it. it's not my fault my country is drat slow with translation. Why isn't the game on OCTGN, TTS or Vassal, damnit 
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Fat Samurai posted:Ok, I have preordered the dumb Arkham game, and I'm entitled to play it. it's not my fault my country is drat slow with translation. Why isn't the game on OCTGN, TTS or Vassal, damnit It has been on TTS for a few weeks? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=781350765&searchtext=
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Chaotic Flame posted:Do we have a date other than November for Arkham at this point? The 10th is the date being tossed around at the Covenant store in Tulsa
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I kinda legitimately wish they would just release the cycles as box sets every half year or whenever instead of doing it monthly. It's just such a hassle to fiddle with decks every month or so to add like 1-2 cards at most, although when I get a full cycle I can see all the themes represented (or not) and actually build around them.
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The only problem I have with the pack system is their inconsistent shipping. Sometimes we get packs 2 weeks from one another and other times it's 5-6 weeks between packs. We also didn't even get any summer kits this year, because "oops we forgot to send them!"
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PaybackJack posted:The only problem I have with the pack system is their inconsistent shipping. Sometimes we get packs 2 weeks from one another and other times it's 5-6 weeks between packs. We also didn't even get any summer kits this year, because "oops we forgot to send them!" Yeah supposedly I had heard that the Asmodee merger would help with that, but I've not noticed it being much better. I'm not even sure what's been the recent delay-they didn't have any big Gencon release, Arkham Horror still isn't out, and I don't think any of the other LCGs has had a big release recently (although I'll admit I could be wrong). Anyone know how their new Star Wars collectible card game is doing? Maybe that's why everything else has seemed so stalled.
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alansmithee posted:Yeah supposedly I had heard that the Asmodee merger would help with that, but I've not noticed it being much better. I'm not even sure what's been the recent delay-they didn't have any big Gencon release, Arkham Horror still isn't out, and I don't think any of the other LCGs has had a big release recently (although I'll admit I could be wrong). It's not out yet, but the buzz is huge. In preparation, Asmodee/FFG are allowing retailers to start carrying singles/used products again.
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The preview for the next Arkham Mythos Pack, Essex County Express, has me pretty excited. I really like the scenario they've outlined, and some of the cards are flavor home runs.
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sexart posted:It has been on TTS for a few weeks? Thanks, I was getting only Arkham Horror boardgame results.
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Lichtenstein posted:How's the situation with amount of Arkham cores to buy? 2 will get you a playset of everything. They say 1 core is enough for 1-2 players, 2 is necessary for 3-4.
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Lichtenstein posted:How's the situation with amount of Arkham cores to buy? Each investigator has 2 classes (out of 5) and can build their deck using cards from their classes plus neutral cards, with 2 copies of each max. The Core comes with 1 copy of each class card and 2 to 4 copies of each neutral card. Odds are you want a second core. For example, the Seeker class has free (both resources and actions) card draw.I can't see any reason not to include two copies of this card. EDIT: The illustration for Baseball Bat is awesome. Fat Samurai fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Nov 5, 2016 |
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Fat Samurai posted:EDIT: The illustration for Baseball Bat is awesome. Talk about sanity shattering
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So after playing a bunch, Targaryens are definitely my faction. I like killing my opponent's characters in a war of attrition until they can't possibly come back. Dracarys is a great event, and last night gave me great respect for the Blood of the Dragon plot. Am I right that applies for the entire turn, so even if someone marshals a character during the marshaling phase, the character dies?
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Yeah. Blood of the Dragon kills chuds dead. It's also really strong against Crossing decks, becuase characters are at -1 STR during the first challenge, which stacks and makes even strong characters vulnerable to Dracarys.
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Yeah, I'm having a lot of fun with Targ now with this list. Being able to recur your characters while wiping their board is really strong, and you have fun combos like Waking the Dragon to wipe counters on Ser Jorah or for attachment removal with Viserys. http://thronesdb.com/decklist/view/6408/targaryen-summer-dutch-national-champion-2016-1.0 Some of the worlds decks are popping up now as well. This is really close to my Lannister/KoW deck, only some differences in events. http://thronesdb.com/decklist/view/6789/lannister-kow-worlds-top-16-1.0
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Bottom Liner posted:Yeah, I'm having a lot of fun with Targ now with this list. Being able to recur your characters while wiping their board is really strong, and you have fun combos like Waking the Dragon to wipe counters on Ser Jorah or for attachment removal with Viserys. I based my Targ deck off of that one with some minor changes that I can't remember because I'm on line to vote (Targaryen 2016!) but I know I'm playing Tourney Grounds. It's great for bluffing Dracarys with zero gold, and I kept missing with Shadowblack Lane. I've activated the Lane four times and haven't hit once. Another rules question - if a character with a dupe dies and can't be saved, what happens to the duplicate? Does it go in the discard or dead pile?
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So it seems like Arkham Horror lcg is sold out everywhere. Even my local game shop can only get it hands on 2 or 3 copies. Either it's a super success or they just went with a low print run.
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frgildan posted:So it seems like Arkham Horror lcg is sold out everywhere. Even my local game shop can only get it hands on 2 or 3 copies. Either it's a super success or they just went with a low print run. Yeah I waited too long to pull the trigger on pre-ordering.  Luckily I know of a small board game shop around here that's supposedly saving me a copy on release day... not that anyone's sure when that is yet. They said the 10th, but they're not sure.
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Yeah I just sent the local comic shop a message on facebook and they're holding a copy for me on Thursday.
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BJPaskoff posted:Another rules question - if a character with a dupe dies and can't be saved, what happens to the duplicate? Does it go in the discard or dead pile? The dupe goes to the discard pile. I'm hopefully getting a friendly game or two in tonight for the first time in a couple weeks due to travel. I'm trying a Stark : Lord of the Crossing deck, built around the Tully suite. Fast Eddard is bonkers, as is Blackfish, and there's plenty of ways to empower him early, provided I have him. Should be interesting.
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frgildan posted:So it seems like Arkham Horror lcg is sold out everywhere. Even my local game shop can only get it hands on 2 or 3 copies. Either it's a super success or they just went with a low print run. Their Lovecraft stuff has always been super popular, and the LCGs have been getting better and better. It hits both the "normies" who want to get their Cthulhu on and the more hardcore people who like to optimize. Also I think their LCGs also typically sell out, since I imagine they just want to push some product out the door, so they do whatever their economy of scale print run is and go with it.
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My LGS got 2 copies of CoC between their 2 stores, so I went ahead and grabbed them both. Haven't had time to play yet, but even a cursory glance at this is awesome. Someone said above that the design and card back art is impressive, and I'll second that. I absolutely want clear sleeves for this. I'll report back once I can actually play a bit. EDIT Arkham Horror LCG, not CoC. Duh. EdsTeioh fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Nov 10, 2016 |
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Do you mean Arkham Horror? That's the new one coming out tomorrow. There is an old Call of Cthluhu card game, but I'm pretty sure it's not actively developed anymore.
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ConfusedUs posted:Do you mean Arkham Horror? That's the new one coming out tomorrow. Herp is the new Derp apparently. Yes, Arkham Horror LCG.
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FLGS has two cores waiting for me at 11. Worked from home today so I can play a solitaire game  Been waiting for this game for awhile, we love Elder Sign in my house so this will be another perfect one.
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I read the start to play book and parts of the rulebook, there are some things they borrowed from LOTR but overall the timing aspect seems less complex. Could be that the actual card rules text adds some more complexity again like in LOTR though, haven't checked that out yet. Is there a card db somewhere? I still wish they would stop using the term 'triggered ability' for what is known in MtG as an activated ability as this is very confusing for me.
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theroachman posted:Is there a card db somewhere? Yes.
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