NASCAR 2016: I think at this point one thread per year is probably fine

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Seizure Meat: Jul 23, 2008; by Smythe

Slickdrac posted:

22 by my count in the last 50 years in the top 3 series

+3 crewmen

From wiki, Cup only

Fatalities by decade
Decade Fatalities
1940s 0
1950s 7
1960s 7
1970s 4
1980s 5
1990s 3
2000s 2
2010s 0
Total 28

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kidcoelacanth: Sep 23, 2009

The answer is clear: go back to what they were doing in the 40s

# ? Nov 7, 2016 21:42

Slickdrac: Oct 5, 2007; Not allowed to have nice things

^^^Only existing for the last 2 years of each decade?

VikingSkull posted:

From wiki, Cup only

Fatalities by decade
Decade Fatalities
1940s 0
1950s 7
1960s 7
1970s 4
1980s 5
1990s 3
2000s 2
2010s 0
Total 28

Yep. Weekly reminder that 50 years ago is actually 1965/66 and we're old now.

Indycar is where the real brutal numbers are for a top tier series though. Somehow, despite being projectiles that can hit walls and fences with the force of a loaded semi truck (I can't remember the exact measurement of force, but I remember having to calculate it several times because the result was IMMENSE), NASCAR is far safer for everyone than open wheel.

Slickdrac fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Nov 7, 2016

# ? Nov 7, 2016 21:44

Seizure Meat: Jul 23, 2008; by Smythe

Slickdrac posted:

^^^Only existing for the last 2 years of each decade?

Yep. Weekly reminder that 50 years ago is actually 1965/66 and we're old now.

Indycar is where the real brutal numbers are for a top tier series though. Somehow, despite being projectiles that can hit walls and fences with the force of a loaded semi truck (I can't remember the exact measurement of force, but I remember having to calculate it several times because the result was IMMENSE), NASCAR is far safer for everyone than open wheel.

Yeah but you said the 3 series lol, and that total is even higher even if you go back to only 50 years ago

# ? Nov 7, 2016 21:52

CactusWeasle: Aug 1, 2006; It's not a party until the bomb squad says it is

Before the Indy 500 this year I went back and read through the history of each Indy 500. The number of deaths is staggering. I think in one year 5 competitors were killed between all the practice/qual/race sessions

# ? Nov 7, 2016 22:07

Seizure Meat: Jul 23, 2008; by Smythe

don't even try and calculate sprint car deaths unless you have a case of beer handy

# ? Nov 7, 2016 22:07

Slickdrac: Oct 5, 2007; Not allowed to have nice things

Though as morbid as talking about the body counts are, they've done a whole lot for safety (mostly reactionary). The other half of watching NASCAR is being able to see some of the worst crashes and still wanting to come back. Almost all of the crashes that unfortunately ended in loss of life weren't even half as terrible looking as (IMO) the 3 worst crashes that no one died in. So if you can watch them and still keep interest, then just getting some inside understanding of oval racing (which is the part that's good, most casuals prefer the wrecking to the racing) would keep you hooked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84hz9w2GlV4
Austin Dillon @ Daytona

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlhyyFJqS1o
Geoff Bodine @ Daytona

I flip back and forth between these two for #3 spot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iQFoRoaKfs
McDowell @ Texas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuzCc0hBKYE
Harmon @ Bristol (more a stupidity thing than racing)

# ? Nov 7, 2016 22:16

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK: Sep 11, 2008; Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
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Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
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CactusWeasle posted:

Before the Indy 500 this year I went back and read through the history of each Indy 500. The number of deaths is staggering. I think in one year 5 competitors were killed between all the practice/qual/race sessions

I wonder how many could have been saved with a closed cockpit.

# ? Nov 7, 2016 22:47

theacox: Jun 8, 2010; You can't be serious.

So, some of us have already laid out that Erik Jones has "it".

Who else are we claiming? I'm all in on Ty Majeski. He's Wisconsin's once in a generation product. None like him since Kenseth. I watched them both come up. It's really crazy how some short trackers stand out.

The results are there, sure, but it seems to me that you can see every future NASCAR star during a restart at a local short track. They never make a mistake. Ty made a name for himself the last couple seasons, but holy poo poo this season has capped it off.

Look for for him to run a lot of ARCA next year, and he said that he would be running a bunch of TRUCKS next season. Get in now iracing people!

# ? Nov 8, 2016 04:11

Seizure Meat: Jul 23, 2008; by Smythe

William Byron, kid's legit

# ? Nov 8, 2016 04:32

kidcoelacanth: Sep 23, 2009

Todd Gilliland

# ? Nov 8, 2016 04:36

Harveygod: Jan 4, 2014; YEEAAH HEH HEH HEEEHH

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYIN

THIS TRASH WAR AIN'T GONNA SOLVE ITSELF YA KNOW

theacox posted:

So, some of us have already laid out that Erik Jones has "it".

I hope he fares better than Tim Ricmond did.

# ? Nov 8, 2016 05:21

Peanut President: Nov 5, 2008; by Athanatos

kidcoelacanth posted:

The answer is clear: go back to what they were doing in the 40s

Driving on empty roads with no spectators? That's coming soon.

# ? Nov 8, 2016 10:28

mearn: Aug 2, 2011; Kevin Harvick's #1 Fan!

Josh Williams is doing a heck of a job in ARCA. I think he could do something with a decent opportunity.

# ? Nov 8, 2016 23:55

LASTCAR: Mar 25, 2010; I like the drivers
you never hear about
in the cars
you never see
who finish in the position
you never want

Hey, von, check out what came in the mail today! :getin:

# ? Nov 9, 2016 19:53

CBJSprague24: Dec 5, 2010; another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

We're taking an hour one night in the off-season and group-watching this in CyTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE4YpDekc64

It's an episode of Viceland's Abandoned (a series I stumbled upon today, not realizing the channel had shows which didn't deal with :420:

) which focuses on North Wilkesboro, featuring the track's biggest superfan, a white rapper named Chuck who calls himself Primetime.

CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Nov 9, 2016

# ? Nov 9, 2016 23:24

mearn: Aug 2, 2011; Kevin Harvick's #1 Fan!

That guy came to Jeff Gluck's Daytona tweetup last year and complained about the direction of the sport so much that it makes us look like die-hard Brian France supporters by comparison. Then he left because nobody had an extra pit pass for him. He had some good rants about NASCAR's media bias (NASCAR won't give him media credentials because he's too honest or something).

# ? Nov 9, 2016 23:40

von Manstein: Jul 30, 2005; Panzer P.I.M.P

LASTCAR posted:

Hey, von, check out what came in the mail today!

I will pay you a million dollars for that

Also,
https://twitter.com/DanicaPatrick/status/796360384336699392

von Manstein fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Nov 10, 2016

# ? Nov 10, 2016 00:58

dentist toy box: Oct 9, 2012; There's a haint in the foothills of NC; the haint of the #3 chevy. The rich have formed a holy alliance to exorcise it but they'll never fucking catch him.

Deport all the indycar drovers that used to beat me.

Also way to go nascar for being based in a swing state.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 01:42

BMB5150: Oct 24, 2010; 2018 Indianapolis 500 Winner

dentist toy box posted:

Also way to go nascar for being based in a swing state.

If Trump goes scorched Earth on the EPA and we can't find any miracle fixes, DIS and NASCAR will be under water down the road and will never not be funny.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 03:28

L_Harrison: May 22, 2007

BMB5150 posted:

If Trump goes scorched Earth on the EPA and we can't find any miracle fixes, DIS and NASCAR will be under water down the road and will never not be funny.

This will happen regardless. We're too late into it to stop whatever's going to happen. Possibly in the next couple decades.

L_Harrison fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Nov 10, 2016

# ? Nov 10, 2016 03:47

iwentdoodie: Apr 29, 2005; 🤗YOU'RE WELCOME🤗

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Best way to spend a Wednesday night.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 06:00

wicka: Jun 28, 2007

BMB5150 posted:

If Trump goes scorched Earth on the EPA and we can't find any miracle fixes, DIS and NASCAR will be under water down the road and will never not be funny.

what a fun and sexy time in which we live

# ? Nov 10, 2016 11:44

kidcoelacanth: Sep 23, 2009

Brian Scott retiring at the end of the year. Kind of came out of nowhere

# ? Nov 10, 2016 16:09

Slickdrac: Oct 5, 2007; Not allowed to have nice things

Much like where the direction of his career went

# ? Nov 10, 2016 18:12

Seizure Meat: Jul 23, 2008; by Smythe

Slickdrac posted:

Much like where the direction of his career went

# ? Nov 10, 2016 19:38

Proud Christian Mom: Dec 20, 2006; READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

Slickdrac posted:

Much like where the direction of his career went

nowhere is a better destination than the infield medical center

# ? Nov 10, 2016 20:06

dentist toy box: Oct 9, 2012; There's a haint in the foothills of NC; the haint of the #3 chevy. The rich have formed a holy alliance to exorcise it but they'll never fucking catch him.

Trying to steal thunder from smoke smh.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 21:29

Slickdrac: Oct 5, 2007; Not allowed to have nice things

Proud Christian Mom posted:

nowhere is a better destination than the infield medical center

Or Daytona turn 4 wall

# ? Nov 10, 2016 21:37

CBJSprague24: Dec 5, 2010; another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

That's out of left field. Good on him to be able to make the decision that family's more important than racing in spite of having a ride in Cup. I wonder who Petty puts in the 44.

What's with all the new username/avatar/title combos? I figure some of it was election related, but drat.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 22:20

Harveygod: Jan 4, 2014; YEEAAH HEH HEH HEEEHH

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYIN

THIS TRASH WAR AIN'T GONNA SOLVE ITSELF YA KNOW

CBJSprague24 posted:

What's with all the new username/avatar/title combos? I figure some of it was election related, but drat.

I'm legit angry that VikingSkull lost his bitchin avatar that I made. It's really his own fault for DnD'ing, though.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:33

Seizure Meat: Jul 23, 2008; by Smythe

Harveygod posted:

I'm legit angry that VikingSkull lost his bitchin avatar that I made. It's really his own fault for DnD'ing, though.

GiP'ing actually

Hilldawgs super mad if you don't hive mind exactly the way they think you should

but lets not make this thread political

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:37

wicka: Jun 28, 2007

VikingSkull posted:

GiP'ing actually

Hilldawgs super mad if you don't hive mind exactly the way they think you should

but lets not make this thread political

i'm gonna do it

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:46

Seizure Meat: Jul 23, 2008; by Smythe

wicka posted:

i'm gonna do it

turn left USA NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:14

wicka: Jun 28, 2007

VikingSkull posted:

turn left USA NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

stealing this, thanks

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:32

L_Harrison: May 22, 2007

Dale taking a hard right into a wall and dying is pretty symbolic in regards to this country currently tbh.

# ? Nov 11, 2016 01:08

Seizure Meat: Jul 23, 2008; by Smythe

wicka posted:

stealing this, thanks

once again, Coors ruins the country

shoulda stayed west of the Mississippi IMO

# ? Nov 11, 2016 01:46

Chillbro Baggins: Oct 8, 2004; Bad Angus! Bad!

theacox posted:

https://twitter.com/NASCARONFOX/status/795028313328807936

She's so tiny! :3:

VikingSkull posted:

Auto racing is definitely a "be there" kind of spectator sport.

There's two levels of understanding a NASCAR (or oval of any kind) race. The first one is casual, or going to see it live. If you know nothing and go, it will rule. If you're casual and just watch it on TV, you don't get the whole thing. Stage two of being a fan is being hooked by the live racing and learning the ins and outs of why exactly it isn't just simply going fast and turning left.

That part takes some work on your part, but there's an underlying complexity to something that should be simple that really gets lost if you watch it casually.

Fuckin' seconded. Even if you can't afford the ticket price/time off for a Cup race, there's probably a dirt track within 50 miles if you're in the US. $20 to get in on Saturday night. And may actually be more exciting than the major leagues, depending on who you talk to:

1a there is not crashing, that's just how dirt-track racing goes.

theacox posted:

Very well said. For me, racing and hockey are the 2 sports where it is better in person than on TV. Also, both seem to require more than just showing up to get past the initial "wow" factor. I asked my cousin if he wanted to go to the local short track with me this summer. His response, "Why? It's just cars driving in circles." Still working on him.

Most sports are like that, really -- I used to watch the pros on TV, then I was a newspaper photographer and covered high school/college sports from the sidelines. It's just not the same once you've been bowled over by a player/taken a nutshot from a baseball (the first baseman missed the pickoff throw from second in an attempted double play, it bounced once and right into my crotch)

theacox posted:

If you want real HOLY loving poo poo factor, go to NHRA and be anywhere in the stands during top fuel and funny car. That poo poo is no loving joke.

That too. I've only been to the the drag-racing equivalent of Saturday night dirt track, but everything I've heard/read about Top Fuel suggests an experience only rivaled by being an artilleryman.

Slickdrac posted:

Indycar is where the real brutal numbers are for a top tier series though. Somehow, despite being projectiles that can hit walls and fences with the force of a loaded semi truck (I can't remember the exact measurement of force, but I remember having to calculate it several times because the result was IMMENSE), NASCAR is far safer for everyone than open wheel.

Open-wheel mainly has the disadvantage of having the driver's head just out there in the breeze, to be squished by a wall when upside-down (Greg Moore), mowing down a marshal carrying a fire extinguisher (I forget the poor bastard's name), or driving under a tractor removing a wrecked car from the track(Jules Bianchi). Or losing both legs because ... yeah. (Alex Zanardi).

Slickdrac posted:

The other half of watching NASCAR is being able to see some of the worst crashes and still wanting to come back. Almost all of the crashes that unfortunately ended in loss of life weren't even half as terrible looking as (IMO) the 3 worst crashes that no one died in.

No Rusty Wallace? For shame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnBRgC_btW0
But yeah, the spectacular wrecks with the flips are actually good -- all that flipping is bleeding off the kinetic energy slowly, as opposed to the ol' splat straight into the wall like Dale Sr. and others.