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Montasque posted:Here's how this happened: Thanks Obama
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lost whitehouse. lost senate. lost house. DNC 2016: All is well.
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Pick posted:She made the moves that the numbers projected were the right moves. That's all you can really do, and I'm not sure she could have pulled the working-class white vote, period. And Donald Trump was only able to pull it by lying in ways that will bite his legacy in the rear end, but he doesn't care because he does not understand that this will happen. youre right, she probably couldnt have pulled those votes, making the first not smart thing she did to run for president
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Pick posted:She made the moves that the numbers projected were the right moves. That's all you can really do, and I'm not sure she could have pulled the working-class white vote, period. And Donald Trump was only able to pull it by lying in ways that will bite his legacy in the rear end, but he doesn't care because he does not understand that this will happen. You're assuming his legacy will be based on reality. Winners write the history books.
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Pick posted:She made the moves that the numbers projected were the right moves. That's all you can really do, and I'm not sure she could have pulled the working-class white vote, period. And Donald Trump was only able to pull it by lying in ways that will bite his legacy in the rear end, but he doesn't care because he does not understand that this will happen. DLC Third Way Democrats love to follow polls but maybe the electorate would prefer someone with principles rather than polls WELP WE'LL NEVER KNOW loving going with what the polls say is why she voted for the Iraq war instead of having a spine
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so with the big name cabinet personnel named and such, who gets to be the next cheney/haliburton?
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martin o malley corey booker some other no name democrat senator from connecticut or something 2020 prospects lookin good
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Pick posted:She made the moves that the numbers projected were the right moves. That's all you can really do, and I'm not sure she could have pulled the working-class white vote, period. And Donald Trump was only able to pull it by lying in ways that will bite his legacy in the rear end, but he doesn't care because he does not understand that this will happen.
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FourLeaf posted:one of the rare times it's better to be black i'm mexican and my grandma's a huge fox news watcher  luckily it's mostly just her and her husband, the rest of us just tell them to not talk politics during the holidays cause it'll start poo poo
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Hillary didn't even show up to talk to her supporters last night after they suffered a devastating loss. Just left them there to wallow in their misery.
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Pick posted:She made the moves that the numbers projected were the right moves. That's all you can really do, and I'm not sure she could have pulled the working-class white vote, period. And Donald Trump was only able to pull it by lying in ways that will bite his legacy in the rear end, but he doesn't care because he does not understand that this will happen. Who cares about legacy when you're president and the other person isn't
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Yudo posted:lost senate. lost house. DNC 2016: All is well. You can't lose something you never had.
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sit on my Facebook posted:You guys can try to make it all about racism, that's the easy answer because there certainly is a lot of that going on and it doesn't make you rethink your philosophy at all. But downplaying the economic and political disenfranchisement that led to this election and ignoring the very real concerns of the people who just crushed American progressivism out of nowhere is only going to lead to more defeats
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It's unconscionable that she lost to Donald J. Trump. Anyone could be him. We should have nominated the guy who couldn't even beat the woman who couldn't beat Trump, then we would have won for sure!
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Covok posted:Let's be real, he's getting re-elected in 2020. I am hesitant to say so, and that's not me saying "AMERICA WILL FIGURE ITSELF OUT!" I think if things go sour, they will turn sour fast and will scuttle any chance at 2020 lest the DNC still hasn't recovered. If life goes on like normal for 4 years? Oh yeah, make it the full 8.
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All this bullpen fretting is pointless, because we won't find out that poo poo until 2018 anyway. (But I could be wrong.)
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:youre right, she probably couldnt have pulled those votes, making the first not smart thing she did to run for president I genuinely think Biden would have stolen it if Beau had not died.
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Lycus posted:I guess we're gonna see a lot of polling companies replicating the methodology of that LA Times poll. That poll is still really, really far off. IBD or something would be better.
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Gyges posted:It's unconscionable that she lost to Donald J. Trump. Anyone could be him. Hillary does win all the contests she rigs in her favor, I'll give her that
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:You mean how long until Japan nukes North Korea honestly, comparing the first country to sustain a nuclear attack to the largest military in history led by a narcissist with the largest narcissiboner in history is a little like comparing who'd win in a presidential election between trump and clinton
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I like the part where making GBS threads on the entire idea behind the Supreme Court by blocking the President's completely sensible and non-partisan nomination for over a year until you can elect your own guy who will nominate partisan shills is actually a good strategy that works apparently.
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Harlock posted:Who cares about legacy when you're president and the other person isn't Yeah, basically. I think that's his take.
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Pick posted:She made the moves that the numbers projected were the right moves. That's all you can really do, and I'm not sure she could have pulled the working-class white vote, period. And Donald Trump was only able to pull it by lying in ways that will bite his legacy in the rear end, but he doesn't care because he does not understand that this will happen. is this a joke
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Gyges posted:It's unconscionable that she lost to Donald J. Trump. Anyone could be him. hahaahhaahahaha yeah that is a fair assessment
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Shinjobi posted:who could have predicted that the woman television has vilified for drat near three decades would see such strong opposition Lol if you believe most media outlets weren't firmly in bed with her. She just was such a weak candidates she didn't give even her allies anything positive to talk about, or to outweight Trump's escapades.
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Guess this means America isn't rigged, huh? Got any to say about that Trump? Who cares? Eight years, eight years, eight years
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I'm still waiting for Rick Wilson's oppo dump.
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Nonsense posted:Thanks Obama 
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Wikkheiser posted:Or the numbers, pollsters and professional political operatives never had a clue what they were doing, and the vaunted Obama machine was merely a waxwork that got hyped ... when fundamentally it was his personality that carried the day. I think "change candidate" got stolen out from under their noses. They didn't have someone who could fit that role again, because they were happy with what they'd done under Obama.
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Augus posted:I like the part where making GBS threads on the entire idea behind the Supreme Court by blocking the President's completely sensible and non-partisan nomination for over a year until you can elect your own guy who will nominate partisan shills is actually a good strategy that works apparently. its loving remarkable. the republicans went all in and put their first born on the table all while holding like pocket threes.
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Pick posted:She made the moves that the numbers projected were the right moves. That's all you can really do, and I'm not sure she could have pulled the working-class white vote, period. And Donald Trump was only able to pull it by lying in ways that will bite his legacy in the rear end, but he doesn't care because he does not understand that this will happen. So the Democrats should have nominated a loving pocket calculators, if doing the numbers is all it takes to be a president, and not being a loving human.
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Honestly, if we believe that Trump has lied to the white working class, that he won't be able to deliver on the MAGAing that he's promised them...why is the conclusion that Clinton should have just lied to them harder? Fact is, she likely wouldn't have been able to fix the issues that are leading to their downfall either, especially with an uncooperative House and Senate. Hindsight being what it is, we were hosed electorally either way, if Clinton won it would have been simply kicked down the road a bit.
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Hope rural whites like losing their insurance!
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Baloogan posted:i gotta say im glad there are alot of smug fuckers feeling hollow atm In following your lead, I also became a cuck. Although since it wasn't even originally my idea, I believe that makes me some sort of supercuck. So this is what it feels like to have other men gently caress your wife. 
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steinrokkan posted:Lol if you believe most media outlets weren't firmly in bed with her. She just was such a weak candidates she didn't give even her allies anything positive to talk about, or to outweight Trump's escapades. Oh I know, but at the same time they are a business. And by going full on 24/7 Trump coverage, they get the ratings they want, the social media reaction they want, without realizing they're not actually helping the person they're in kahoots with. There are a ton of different factors to this Hillary loss, but the media doesn't get a pass. They hosed up just as bad as anyone else.
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Shinjobi posted:I am hesitant to say so, and that's not me saying "AMERICA WILL FIGURE ITSELF OUT!" I think if things go sour, they will turn sour fast and will scuttle any chance at 2020 lest the DNC still hasn't recovered. a trump reelection might run into the same kind of issue that leads to the rotating clown car of majority leaders; the gop base likes their politicians talking a big talk but once they're actually in power and have to do more than just blow smoke up the voter's asses they're seen in an entirely different light of course he might get to avoid that all with the other two branches being republican controlled
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