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Everyone saying that this has happened before and we survived slavery and Jim Crow and Nixon is refusing to acknowledge climate change. We weren't facing the horrible effects 40-50 years ago. We are now, and it's going to get worse. Much worse. Every single year. There's been a low-level extinction event ongoing since we killed off the Mastadons, but it's accelerating right now into a very rapid mass die-off. Just try agitating to preserve our social progress as our government becomes ever-more authoritarian and we're losing a New Orleans-sized city every few years while running out of fresh water for drinking and irrigation.
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Crowsbeak posted:Yeah, he wont. The GOP will gladly back him on the racist horseshit that will kill the party permantly It won't kill the party if it didn't kill them this cycle.
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FactsAreUseless posted:An insane amount of the elderly white Republican base are Type 2 diabetic, and as soon as they realize they will lose their insurance all will for an ACA repeal goes out the window. Hopefully they're all under 65.
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Some scattered thoughts. I can't sleep. Interested to hear what others think. -The country that approves of Obama by about ~6 points just elected Trump. -The apocalyptically low turn out is what did Hillary in--nothing else is especially remarkable about the numbers, other than the polls missing how low the turnout would be. Is this basically correct? -By far the scariest thing about Trump is foreign policy. Domestically at the end of the day the president's powers are fairly demarcated and limited by Congress and the Supreme Court (I'm speaking in terms of worse case stuff here--obviously repealing Obamacare and such is horrendous but it's not an existential threat to the Republic). But on foreign policy the president can do almost whatever he wants. Lots of ways this could result in true disaster--nuclear proliferation, NATO collapse, general uncertainty and destabilization. -Other than climate change of course, which is a bit of a wildcard. Obviously on this front Trump is a disaster as well, but it's unclear exactly how active on this Hillary would have been, how effective steps we can take are, etc... Not trying to downplay this one at all, just not sure exactly the extent of the impact. porfiria fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Nov 9, 2016 |
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FactsAreUseless posted:An insane amount of the elderly white Republican base are Type 2 diabetic, and as soon as they realize they will lose their insurance all will for an ACA repeal goes out the window. They might simply repeal it anyway out of the fear that the hardcore base they've convinced Obamacare is the devil for 8 years now will primary them out if they don't.
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Nov 9, 2016 15:15
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Retro42 posted:China is having a drat party right now. If Trump enacts a fraction of what he wants on a global economics level they are positioned to replace us as a focal point of global trade. China is actually turbofucked if he does this because China's entire economy is based on selling things to the US and it's already hanging by a thread.
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Nov 9, 2016 15:16
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Beamed posted:It won't kill the party if it didn't kill them this cycle. White people as a block showed amazing unity, while the fractious Obama/Democratic coalition collapsed. Trump was the white Obama.
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Nov 9, 2016 15:17
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porfiria posted:-By far the scariest thing about Trump is foreign policy. Domestically at the end of the day the president's powers are fairly demarcated and limited by Congress and the Supreme Court If he doesn't gently caress up, he will have both on his side. Which means Trump presidency will be dictated by House and Senate Republicans.
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porfiria posted:Some scattered thoughts. I can't sleep. Interested to hear what others think. He has no real consistent policies, domestic or otherwise. Expect 90s style GOP ideas based on who he surrounded himself with. There is no bottom, there's always more and its always worse.
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Nov 9, 2016 15:20
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Doctor Butts posted:Americans are loving retarded for voting Trump as president. "everybody but ME is just STUPID God when will they learn"  Lol you are the problem here, this is the example of why, it is in fact you who is the moron here, why are you so incapable of grasping this?
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Doctor Butts posted:Americans are loving retarded for voting Trump as president. That's it Let the denial sink in
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plushpuffin posted:Everyone saying that this has happened before and we survived slavery and Jim Crow and Nixon is refusing to acknowledge climate change. We weren't facing the horrible effects 40-50 years ago. We are now, and it's going to get worse. Much worse. Every single year. There's been a low-level extinction event ongoing since we killed off the Mastadons, but it's accelerating right now into a very rapid mass die-off. Just try agitating to preserve our social progress as our government becomes ever-more authoritarian and we're losing a New Orleans-sized city every few years while running out of fresh water for drinking and irrigation. Settle down dude. Fojar38 posted:China is actually turbofucked if he does this because China's entire economy is based on selling things to the US and it's already hanging by a thread. Its already turbofucked, and so are we once the dominoes start to fall. Well at least Trump and the GOP gets blamed. Yeah Fox and the Trump network will scream its all Obama's fault but then who's in the white house? porfiria posted:Some scattered thoughts. I can't sleep. Interested to hear what others think. Beamed posted:It won't kill the party if it didn't kill them this cycle. Every cycle there are 2 and half percent less white people, and the white people dying are the golden children of the GOP. The Boomers.
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Drunkboxer posted:He has no real consistent policies, domestic or otherwise. Expect 90s style GOP ideas based on who he surrounded himself with. This whole election has been one retarded nostalgia tour.
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Nov 9, 2016 15:22
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Crowsbeak posted:Every cycle there are 2 and half percent less white people, and the white people dying are the golden children of the GOP. The Boomers. Last I checked, Trump outperformed expectations on women and PoC vote share by a fair bit. If so, shifting demographics aren't enough.
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And it's a great day to be alive I know that Trumps still smilein' when I close my eyes There's been some, hard times in the USA But I'm glad everybody voted Trump yesterday
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Crowsbeak posted:Its already turbofucked, and so are we once the dominoes start to fall. Well at least Trump and the GOP gets blamed. Yeah Fox and the Trump network will scream its all Obama's fault but then who's in the white house? I gotta get serious about the gym so I don't look like fresh meat in my post-apocalyptic shroudwear.
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Sylink posted:This whole election has been one retarded nostalgia tour. I'll take 90's Republicans over the raiders of the Tortilla Coast any day. Hell if the President-Elect really does hold grudges and ends up loving over Rubio and Cruz "just because" I call that a partial win. Captain Oblivious posted:Last I checked, Trump outperformed expectations on women and PoC vote share by a fair bit. True but no the whole story, it was just white women. POC number was around 7%.
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Nov 9, 2016 15:26
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Glazier posted:True but no the whole story, it was just white women. POC number was around 7%. He did very well with The Hispanics, just as he promised.
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Nov 9, 2016 15:29
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So no joke though, Putin literally has his dick in Trump's rear end, right?
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Nov 9, 2016 15:28
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Fojar38 posted:China is actually turbofucked if he does this because China's entire economy is based on selling things to the US and it's already hanging by a thread. you can also replace china with canada and have this post be equally true
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I'm actually not that bothered with Hillary not winning the election. In fact, I'm now in total anarchic mode, hoping to see everything burn to the ground. Maybe 2000-2008 didn't burn deeply enough into America's memory, but hopefully 4 years of Trump will, and people will learn to not vote for the hate machine. In fact, let's go the full distance into the burning wastelands. 8 years of Trump to totally demolish any good will anyone can feel for the GoP.
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What happens to the big welfare programs? Those have often been pointed to as a big part of the national debt problem by Republicans correct? What does a Republican congress do now? I'm guessing they cut programs like medicaid while largely preserving medicare and social security?
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Feral Integral posted:So no joke though, Putin literally has his dick in Trump's rear end, right? There's a nonzero chance putin has personal leverage over trump.
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A few random thoughts: Trump's second term is a lock. Throughout this first one, we'll hear nothing but excuses blaming Obama for why he and the Republican Congress can't accomplish anything. It will be an easily won second campaign, especially since the Democrats won't have recovered or even really tried, let alone with a candidate that can win. Might even be that way for 2024 and candidate Pence. Does anything happen with journalism in the US? Do they have any introspection with the damage they helped cause with false equivalences and free air time to Trump? Or is it just business as usual coupled with even more self-defanging due to the threat of lawsuits from the PUSA on anything critical?
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Captain Oblivious posted:Last I checked, Trump outperformed expectations on women and PoC vote share by a fair bit. Oh of course not. The tipping point is the fallout from China and India making GBS threads the bed. Cheesus posted:A few random thoughts: Yeah I think you don't understand something. If facts on the ground are worse for the majority, they punish whose in charge no matter if they caused the problems or not, as Obama got punished in 2010, and Bush got punished in 2006. Trump lost the popular vote and if he does poo poo on the minorities with nation stop and frisk, plus goes whole hog on MJ states and sends out the deportation fores against Latinos the Dems will definitely have a shot. Plus the fact that the world is headed towards at the least major recession if not a crash due to as I've said, China and India collapsing economically the party as a whole will be blamed. Also if Trump fucks NATO and we begin to see Russia going Ukraine on the Baltic then Trump is also hosed. Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Nov 9, 2016 |
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Feral Integral posted:So no joke though, Putin literally has his dick in Trump's rear end, right? Yes. Right this second, Putin's actual dick is inside of Trump's rear end in a top hat. They're both having a wonderful time.
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Feral Integral posted:So no joke though, Putin literally has his dick in Trump's rear end, right? Probably not, I think Trump's disinterest in the rest of the world just dovetails with Putin's desire to be the superpower in the Eastern Hemisphere. Cheesus posted:Does anything happen with journalism in the US? Do they have any introspection with the damage they helped cause with false equivalences and free air time to Trump? Or is it just business as usual coupled with even more self-defanging due to the threat of lawsuits from the PUSA on anything critical? Search your feelings Cheesus, you will know the truth.
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Feral Integral posted:So no joke though, Putin literally has his dick in Trump's rear end, right? Probably not, but I'm sure Putin sees Trump as a potential useful
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In a round about way Trump was right. The wall will get built and Mexico will pay for it. To keep us the gently caress out.
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Nov 9, 2016 15:35
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jwang posted:I'm actually not that bothered with Hillary not winning the election. In fact, I'm now in total anarchic mode, hoping to see everything burn to the ground. Maybe 2000-2008 didn't burn deeply enough into America's memory, but hopefully 4 years of Trump will, and people will learn to not vote for the hate machine. If the popular vote thing keeps going this way they didn't. They voted Clinton, but midwesterners get an oversized influence here I guess.
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Never again will I make the mistake of trusting in the decency of the common (white) man.
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steinrokkan posted:He did very well with The Hispanics, just as he promised. As time goes on they just get tantalizingly closer to being White
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Yo who are the Dems gonna run in 2020 I gotta switch out my Hilary sticker that I've had on my car for like three years
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I imagine the dnc, instead of shifting their message towards Bernie sanders style populism, will decide they didn't win because not enough nonwhites voted. Dicks out for Castro/Duckworth 2020
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bird food bathtub posted:In a round about way Trump was right. The wall will get built and Mexico will pay for it. The wall will be built by the Chinese, because they have the best expertise in this kind of endeavor after all!
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jwang posted:I'm actually not that bothered with Hillary not winning the election. In fact, I'm now in total anarchic mode, hoping to see everything burn to the ground. Maybe 2000-2008 didn't burn deeply enough into America's memory, but hopefully 4 years of Trump will, and people will learn to not vote for the hate machine.
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Ragnar34 posted:Yes. Right this second, Putin's actual dick is inside of Trump's rear end in a top hat. They're both having a wonderful time. trump finally pivots on the gay rights issue
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Duck Rodgers posted:What happens to the big welfare programs? Those have often been pointed to as a big part of the national debt problem by Republicans correct? What does a Republican congress do now? I'm guessing they cut programs like medicaid while largely preserving medicare and social security? Lol everything's gonna get privatized
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jwang posted:I'm actually not that bothered with Hillary not winning the election. In fact, I'm now in total anarchic mode, hoping to see everything burn to the ground. Maybe 2000-2008 didn't burn deeply enough into America's memory, but hopefully 4 years of Trump will, and people will learn to not vote for the hate machine. Hell I barely remember 2000-2008 and I'm a politics nerd. That said we need to stop thinking that demographics are going to do our job for us, as long as we have a two party system it's not enough to hope the other side just dies first. We all laughed at the Bernie and Trump Bros but they are probably now reliable GOP voters who no one thought would ever engage, even worse is that many are from "reliable" Democratic areas. We as Democrats need a complete flush of the party from top to bottom if we ever want to win Congress back again.
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