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ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar
:420: Rep

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C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



LastInLine posted:

Yes, that would do a good job disenfranchising half the people in the country. Alternately, we could do voter ID laws, purity tests, and other Jim Crow-era tactics to disenfranchise the other half of the country.

I suppose it has to be one or the other because trying to grow your own base is useless. Unless you're Trump. Or Obama. Or Reagan. Or Nixon. Or Kennedy. But good luck running them, most of them are dead!

Dude did you even read my second paragraph or are you too loving dug in for Hillary to understand how my second paragraph would fix the country by massively increasing voter turnout and removing lesser of two evil voting and destroy corruption?

There's no reason with the current electoral college for a dem to campaign in texas for prez and you are retarded to think otherwise. Nice meltdown, I'm a socialist and you know nothing about how democracy could work to actually help people matter in their votes.

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar

loving 421, self owned you loving Berned scrub

baw
Nov 5, 2008

RESIDENT: LAISSEZ FAIR-SNEZHNEVSKY INSTITUTE FOR FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY

Montasque posted:

https://twitter.com/PeterHamby/status/796357379944235008

This is already completely hosed on all levels.

he's as vindictive as Nixon and as stupid as Reagan. could be a bad combination imo

Vladimir Putin
Mar 17, 2007

by R. Guyovich

TyrantWD posted:

What are the Democrats supposed to learn from this? People who cared about the economy more voted Hillary in the exit polls. This wasn't an election lost on policy. Remember, a large part of the GOP donor class sat this election out, but that's not going to be the case in 2018 and beyond. With less money, and less bigotry, expect the same 4 years from now.

I personally think my lesson from this is that Obama took it too far too fast. Dems not only lost the White House but also the senate and the house.

My Linux Rig
Mar 27, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 6 years!

Dog Jones posted:

Man I can't believe these Hillary people blew it, what a bunch of worthless sycophantic incompetents. Goddamn what a disaster.

Lol we told you but you cucks wouldn't listen...

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

Montasque posted:

https://twitter.com/PeterHamby/status/796357379944235008

This is already completely hosed on all levels.

off to an amazing start

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Vladimir Putin posted:

I personally think my lesson from this is that Obama took it too far too fast. Dems not only lost the White House but also the senate and the house.

We didn't even have congress to begin with.

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

Turdfuzz posted:

so hillary got more votes?? like we got a 2000 situation again?? am i understanding this right cuz i havent done any real research yet (n prolly never will lets be honest)

I wanna say HRC winning the popular vote and Trump winning the electoral was the least likely scenario on 538.

So in retrospect, we all should have seen this coming because LOL 2016.

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Mr. Jive posted:

In hindsight it was completely loving childish to base an election strategy and national discourse around the notion that the majority white population would vote for the ideologically sound candidate because they should, because they would be bad people if they voted for Trump, because the left would shame them if they voted Trump, as if being shamed was the worst punishment they could receive

lmao you can't shame the majority, they don't care

Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009

Montasque posted:

https://twitter.com/PeterHamby/status/796357379944235008

This is already completely hosed on all levels.

DRAIN THAT SWAMP

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


some minor good news: david duke got only 3% of the vote. bad news: 60,000 people voted for david duke in louisiana

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar

Pick posted:

What else could they sell? "Whoops, never mind the previous president also from my own party, gently caress that guy?" If they wanted that, who could they choose but Bernie? I don't think he'd have held up under the scrutiny, ultimately. And you don't really get to be the change candidate twice in a row while maintaining essentially the same platform, by definition.
But he did hold under scrutiny of the Primary and became America's Most Beloved Politician 2016
We just had to elect the guy that is EXTREMELY likeable, that's it.


Instead we got two unlikeable people to compete and well, look how well that turned out.

:downsgun:

Karl Sharks
Feb 20, 2008

The Immortal Science of Sharksism-Fininism

C-SPAN Caller posted:

There's no reason with the current electoral college for a dem to campaign in texas for prez and you are retarded to think otherwise. Nice meltdown, I'm a socialist and you know nothing about how democracy could work to actually help people matter in their votes.

downballot, improving infrastructure/support for future campaigns

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



Montasque posted:

https://twitter.com/PeterHamby/status/796357379944235008

This is already completely hosed on all levels.

Hell yeah! Doesn't it start with political opponents?

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



Vladimir Putin posted:

I personally think my lesson from this is that Obama took it too far too fast. Dems not only lost the White House but also the senate and the house.

If by too far you mean "did loving nothing" and "installed a right wing health care system" and "created a way to kill people against sovereignty with drones" among many others you're the problem with liberals.

Bernie would have won. Accept that Americans want hope and an actual left and you'll suddenly feel much better.

crazy cloud
Nov 7, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Lipstick Apathy
lol oh word, America is bad? Weird wtf

Dog Jones
Nov 4, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

My Linux Rig posted:

Lol we told you but you cucks wouldn't listen...

?? No one told me poo poo, I called this exact scenario back in July in the DNC thread to much hissing and booing from Clinton retards.

Tatsuta Age
Apr 21, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!

got any sevens posted:

Glad the trumbpf thread hit 14880 pages

14088 :eng101:

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



Karl Sharks posted:

downballot, improving infrastructure/support for future campaigns

Maybe actually being a good loving candidate would do all that, and fixing the system to not be poo poo.

change my name
Aug 27, 2007

Legends die but anime is forever.

RIP The Lost Otakus.

lol I just got a sad email from the director of NASA about preserving earth science's funding through demonstrating their excellent track record




sent from his iphone, so of course he's still in bed

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6CVvNRQcvE

My Linux Rig
Mar 27, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 6 years!
Lol

C-SPAN Caller posted:

If by too far you mean "did loving nothing" and "installed a right wing health care system" and "created a way to kill people against sovereignty with drones" among many others you're the problem with liberals.

Bernie would have won. Accept that Americans want hope and an actual left and you'll suddenly feel much better.

Lol Bernie would have lost too, just face it, no one wants a Democrat in office again

TotalHell
Feb 22, 2005

Roman Reigns fights CM Punk in fantasy warld. Lotsa violins, so littl kids cant red it.


crazy cloud posted:

lol oh word, America is bad? Weird wtf

oh man what

Spoondick
Jun 9, 2000

so does this mean infowars and wikileaks are going to be pro-america from here on out?

GobiasIndustries
Dec 14, 2007

Lipstick Apathy

Montasque posted:

https://twitter.com/PeterHamby/status/796357379944235008

This is already completely hosed on all levels.

Yea, Omarosa being a person of importance is p. hosed up.

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

C-SPAN Caller posted:

Dude did you even read my second paragraph or are you too loving dug in for Hillary to understand how my second paragraph would fix the country by massively increasing voter turnout and removing lesser of two evil voting and destroy corruption?

There's no reason with the current electoral college for a dem to campaign in texas for prez and you are retarded to think otherwise. Nice meltdown, I'm a socialist and you know nothing about how democracy could work to actually help people matter in their votes.

This isn't a meltdown and I never believed Hillary had a chance (my state went 95% for Trump and I'm a white straight male so it's all academic to me).

My point is that the system worked just fine when electing a black guy named Barack Hussein Obama twice. No reform necessary, just a standard right-of-center Democrat with an optimistic message and some charisma. There isn't any broken system to fix, the Democrats just ran a terrible, unlikeable candidate and rightly lost due to hubris.

Walka Blocka Shame
Apr 30, 2006

This is fine
Doctor Rope
God drat, how long until the debt ceiling needs to be raised?

Dog Jones
Nov 4, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

C-SPAN Caller posted:

If by too far you mean "did loving nothing" and "installed a right wing health care system" and "created a way to kill people against sovereignty with drones" among many others you're the problem with liberals.

Bernie would have won. Accept that Americans want hope and an actual left and you'll suddenly feel much better.

Yeah man, we came close to getting Sanders and instead ended up with Trump. What a loving coup for the right

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

quote:

[Black People Twitter] mods be like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg_8L96E3eU

Because gently caress it. I don't give a gently caress if this sub has a white majority. You came here to "laugh" at black humor yeah? Well sometimes black twitter has to get real. gently caress you and your memes. It has to be said, the DNC is not responsible for trump. White people are. 58 percent of white voters voted for Trump.

Based on this data [ http://www.cnn.com/election/results/exit-polls ], across the board, white people of nearly all ages, genders, and education levels chose Trump. The only exception: college-educated white women and that is because the data remains unavailable as of writing this.

Whites vs. nonwhite voters

Whites made up 70 percent of voters
58 percent of all whites voted for Trump
21 percent of nonwhites voted for Trump

White men

White men made up 34 percent of voters
63 percent of them voted Trump
31 percent voted Clinton

White women

White women made up 37 percent of voters
53 percent of them voted Trump
43 percent voted Clinton

Young whites (ages 18-29)

Young white people made up 12 percent of voters
48 percent of them voted Trump
43 percent voted Clinton
In comparison, 9 percent of young blacks and 24 percent of young Latinos voted for Trump.

College-educated whites

White college graduates made up 37 percent of voters
49 percent of them voted for Trump, while 45 percent voted for Clinton.
54 percent of college-educated white men voted Trump.
45 percent of college-educated white women chose Trump, while 51 percent chose Clinton. This is the only white demographic tracked by the exit poll that Trump didn’t win.

Non-college-educated whites
Whites without a college degree made up 34 percent of voters
67 percent of them voted for Trump
Of them, women voted 62 percent for Trump
And men voted 72 percent for Trump

Data for white women 18-29 and white men 18-29 weren’t reported.

So no Reddit. Hillary Clinton and her supporters are not responsible for Trump's presidency. The majority of bigoted white voters are. Yeah I said it. The same people handed the senate and congress to the republicans. The first of its occurence since 1933

If after Trump insults veterans, women, muslims, blacks, mexicans and has a VP that wants to repeal the marriage equality law, you voted for that orange faced oval office into power because "you were upset at the liberal elite" then you have a mental deficiency that can't be solved through rational discourse.


I watched this nonsense "white oppression noble working class" bollocks get tossed around during Brexit. Same thing here. I am willing to take goddamn responsibility for "the inner cities" and "black on black crime" if you arseholes are willing to take loving responsibility for trump.

I'm gonna talk to family and friends right now who are have been living hand to mouth trying to achieve the American dream, both legally and undocumented.
We are going to have a conversation about their future in a country that has unanimously voted against their presence and struggles, conversations many of you white motherfuckers will never have in your life times. GLENN loving BECK is against Trump. Glenn Beck.

No we will not overcome. Maybe white people will. Maybe after Trump deregulates the BIG PHARMA you motherfuckers cry about everyday and after your relatives die due to unaffordable health care, maybe after Pence and his republican chief justice repeal the marriage equality laws and the wealth gap rises, maybe after heroin starts killing your kids more frequently with less health support, maybe then we will overcome.

For now, if you didn't vote and threw your vote to third party cunts like Gary and Jill "magic cyrstals" Stein or if you were a "bernie or bust" idiot, you've all voted a protofascist into power and given him nuclear codes. The same motherfucker who thinks a sneak attack is the best military strategy in Mosul. A climate change denying ponce school boy with a 10 year old's temper tantrum. A man who currently has unparalleled support of white supremacist organisations across your country. He is the president you fuckers deserve and you've lost your last cards that you could use to blame the minorities for. Good loving job.

And if you're a minority, POC, marginalized person who voted for Trump? Or you voted for him because "le feminists and political correctness has gone too far"? I hope his policies affect you like he promised they would.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

off to an amazing start

I'm excited for Trump purging the Republican party, starting with "Lehman bros" kasich

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Guys, what if instead of trying to appeal to the anxiety and distress of rural whites about their changing place in America and maybe tossed them a bone or two to get them onboard, we instead just shamed the gently caress out of them to get them to see the only morally right thing to do is vote for our candidate? That sounds like it'll really amp up voter turn out during this extremely critical election.

Shame will do it.

Shame will win the election.

(a candidate with no shame whatsoever and who positively revels in his shamelessness goes on to win the election)

WHAT COULD HAVE POSSIBLY GONE WRONG WITH OUR SHAME PLAN!?

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven
Omarosa, a person who played a reality TV star baddy, is threatening Senator Lindsay Graham.

I'm having problems computing this one.

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



My Linux Rig posted:

Lol


Lol Bernie would have lost too, just face it, no one wants a Democrat in office again

Lol nice troll but the polls and excitement say otherwise, Hillary couldn't turn people out, bernie could turn out olds that vote D no matter what as well as the Youngs that would have handed it over on a silver platter.

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Montasque posted:

https://twitter.com/PeterHamby/status/796357379944235008

This is already completely hosed on all levels.

:tinfoil:


anybody got a spare MAGA hat I can borrow? I'm pretty sure straight white guys aren't going to be in the first round of cullings but better safe than sorry, right?

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

change my name posted:

lol I just got a sad email from the director of NASA about preserving earth science's funding through demonstrating their excellent track record




sent from his iphone, so of course he's still in bed

it's ok. newt is going to push for building a moon base and that's very much Trump's thing so NASA is going to be drowning in funds very soon

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

Not a Step posted:

Guys, what if instead of trying to appeal to the anxiety and distress of rural whites about their changing place in America and maybe tossed them a bone or two to get them onboard, we instead just shamed the gently caress out of them to get them to see the only morally right thing to do is vote for our candidate? That sounds like it'll really amp up voter turn out during this extremely critical election.

Shame will do it.

Shame will win the election.

(a candidate with no shame whatsoever and who positively revels in his shamelessness goes on to win the election)

WHAT COULD HAVE POSSIBLY GONE WRONG WITH OUR SHAME PLAN!?

The primary source of "anxiety and distress of rural whites" is that black people and Latinos and Muslims exist and want civil rights.

reignofevil
Nov 7, 2008
Alright guys. Jokes over.


...


Guys?

Fox Ironic
Jul 19, 2012

by exmarx

Annual Prophet posted:

so what's the over-under on

- the wall
- Mexico paying for same
- increased coal production
- extreme vetting
- tearing up free trade agreements
- any manufacturing coming back
- ACA repeal
- "taking the oil" from isil
- ginsberg and scalia replaced with, essentially, scalia x 2

1:10 odds against the Wall
1:100 odds against Mexico paying for a Wall
1:1 odds of increase Coal production
2:1 odds in favor of an immigration/migration freeze
2:1 odds in favor of economic populism forcing an end to at least a trade agreement or two
1:3 odds against an increase in domestic manufacturing
4:1 odds of an ACA repeal
1:10 odds against Daesh having much in the way of oil to take
1000:1 odds in favor of the Supreme Court from Hell

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Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
I ate a 6 hour probation yesterday when it looked like it was going to be closer than expected and I posted that the democrats shouldn't have nominated such a poo poo candidate.

I still put this on the democrats for nominating such a poo poo candidate. Deez Nuts could have beaten Trump, but no, it was her turn.

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