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sexy loving muskrat posted:Lol everything's gonna get privatized This. Also, I hope that when the Department of Education gets its head punched clean off of its neck, it will take long enough for the body to hit the floor for my girlfriend to keep getting student loans and not need to transfer from one of the best business schools in the country to the state college that will give her a free ride because she went to community college before.
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Crowsbeak posted:Yeah I think you don't understand something. It' was silly me to question it. Of course it's impossible for a Republican majority to be immune to mid-term voter dissatisfaction because they don't have a propaganda machine and the truth always shines through.
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sexy loving muskrat posted:Lol everything's gonna get privatized Oh yeah, look for all private college to merge into Trump U in a completely uncoordinated way, they all just decided to; and the DoE has decided that government loans will only go to that school. Cheesus posted:I apologize. I forgot that as with the whole campaign, these threads are full of Very Smart People who Know Things That The Rest Of Us Don't. It all depends on how much he gets done in that first two years. If he can keep his base happy there is no reason they won't turn out in their regular numbers and flip some seats. Gynocentric Regime fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Nov 9, 2016 |
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Rookersh posted:( Bernie 100% needs to leave politics after today. I'd argue he is near 60% the cause of this loss, because from the sounds of things many of the people in the Midwest chose not to vote because they were huge Bernie fans that got led on too long/"Corrupt Hillary". Considering how many losses across the board were at the 1k-2k range, Berniebros did have an affect on this election. As I said, this wasn't a Republican victory, this was a Democrat failure, and much of that ties to Bernie, the corruption scandals, and more I imagine. ) Shouldn't Bernie instead take a greater role in the remaining lifespan he's got if he's the only one who can actually peel those poor bastards away from the Republicans? It's clear that the current Democrat leadership has no idea of how to make these guys vote Democrat.
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So has Clinton made any public appearances since last evening? Watching the Dem event clear out last night after Podesta told everyone to go to bed didn't quite cut it.
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Cheesus posted:Does anything happen with journalism in the US? Do they have any introspection with the damage they helped cause with false equivalences and free air time to Trump? Or is it just business as usual coupled with even more self-defanging due to the threat of lawsuits from the PUSA on anything critical? You'll see a lot of individual journalists and smaller outlets coming down hard on the industry for the part it played in getting Trump elected, but I find it hard to imagine we see a real significant shift in how things are covered in the grand scheme, especially with Trump going after anyone who badmouths him personally. On the other hand, it will be hard to spin things as "both sides are bad" when one side literally doesn't exist, so who knows. trash person posted:Yo who are the Dems gonna run in 2020 I gotta switch out my Hilary sticker that I've had on my car for like three years It's going to be tough grooming new faces when you don't control either house of Congress, or the Executive to make appointments with. Or most governorships, or most state legislatures. The Dems really are completely shut out at every level, outside a few stronghold states, aren't they? Does this trace back to the DNC ditching Howard Dean and the 50 state strategy? Feels real bad that internal Democratic backstabbing lead to this, if so.
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LogisticEarth posted:So has Clinton made any public appearances since last evening? Watching the Dem event clear out last night after Podesta told everyone to go to bed didn't quite cut it. she's giving her concession speech at 10:30 EDT
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in retrospect building your candidacy in no small part thanks to the support of african-americans in southern red states is good for inclusive politics but bad when it comes to the electoral college
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SunAndSpring posted:Shouldn't Bernie instead take a greater role in the remaining lifespan he's got if he's the only one who can actually peel those poor bastards away from the Republicans? It's clear that the current Democrat leadership has no idea of how to make these guys vote Democrat. Possibly. Although there is another guy that managed to peel away those voters in a co-ordinated matter, not just once but twice. And he'll have a lot more free time coming up soon! Unless he's in jail.
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SunAndSpring posted:Shouldn't Bernie instead take a greater role in the remaining lifespan he's got if he's the only one who can actually peel those poor bastards away from the Republicans? It's clear that the current Democrat leadership has no idea of how to make these guys vote Democrat. It's cute watching white leftists pretend like white people in this country would care about class identity more than race identity if we would just pander to them more. This country is hosed boys. I hope Trump supporters enjoy watching him sign every trade agreement that touches his desk while he does nothing about global warming.
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Glazier posted:Oh yeah, look for all private college to merge into Trump U in a completely uncoordinated way, they all just decided to; and the DoE has decided that government loans will only go to that school. lmao the Republican controlled Legislative and Executive branches are gonna gut the DoE for army dollars and/or a giant wall. This is probably gonna be the last year public schools can get current textbooks.
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I said in the election thread last night around 1:00 AM that I was checking out of politics for a while but I actually woke up with a clearer head than I thought. I'm mostly at peace with what happened. I'm sad and disappointed and a little apprehensive but mostly at peace. A random scattering of thoughts:
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At least I live in CA which seems to have much more progressive local policies than the rest of the nation. Too bad we'll be used as an internment camp in a couple of years
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deadly_pudding posted:lmao the Republican controlled Legislative and Executive branches are gonna gut the DoE for army dollars and/or a giant wall. This is probably gonna be the last year public schools can get current textbooks. I'm sure Liberty University will write some free textbooks.
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FizFashizzle posted:I imagine the dnc, instead of shifting their message towards Bernie sanders style populism, will decide they didn't win because not enough nonwhites voted. I think we'll oddly be helped out by the fact that no one can continue to blame the rancor and hideousness that is Trump on "this election". There is now one political party responsible for our country's government and public discourse. We should gain back a bunch of moderates running a comparative no name (because the D bench is drained and everyone is a no name), and... I can't even keep going. I like our chances in 2020 and it should be an important year but the country just blew the biggest election of my life and I'm not sure we have a path to fix it in my lifetime. Good luck everybody.
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Deified Data posted:[*]Accelerationism is going to start looking a lot more appealing to the left. The argument against it has always been "think about the people who would suffer", but that doesn't work now that the worst case scenario has come to pass. The worse America does in the next 4 years, the better prepared we'll be for a Dem comeback. I'm not ignorant of the human toll this will take, but it's going to happen and it's best to be realistic about it. People say every election "the dems will get it together next time!" Weirdly this never happens, it won't happen this time either. The democratic party is garbage and the core has no interest is being productive at all.
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Deified Data posted:[*]It's useless playing "what if?" at this juncture but Bernie probably would have squeaked by. Building coalitions of voters in important for Democrats and Clinton didn't turn out the parts of that coalition she promised to. Bernie would have suffered with minorities but they have skin in the game and would have came out anyway. The people who needed to be motivated and persuaded, youth and independents, would have been a lock. More importantly, Bernard would have challenged the areas where Trump was really strong - the rust belt, poorer rural areas - which matters when it comes to the electoral college.
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Sylink posted:People say every election "the dems will get it together next time!" True, maybe it's not the Dems who need to make a comeback, but there's no structure in place for anyone else to do that right now.
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The stock market is fine. Up a little even. I guess the markets are okay with Trump after all.  democrats hoping Wall Street won't go all in for Trump in 2020
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FCKGW posted:How mad is Biden right now for not running? Not at all. He didn't want the job.
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HorseRenoir posted:The only slim upside to this is that the Republicans will take full ownership of whatever happens next. People turned on Obama hard after he wasted what they perceived to be total control of the government (it wasn't), and I imagine that people will do the same after Trump fails to make America great again. Accountability for your actions only sticks to Democrats. This is a republican country now, of course Obama will get the blame for everything they do. FactsAreUseless posted:An insane amount of the elderly white Republican base are Type 2 diabetic, and as soon as they realize they will lose their insurance all will for an ACA repeal goes out the window. Like this,  if you think the GOP gives a single gently caress about what the voters want at the start of a new term. Apparently you have the memory of a goldfish (like the rest of the country) about exactly how much things like "burn down the entire government in a tantrum" impact them the next time it comes to vote. Any problems caused by repeal are clearly Obama's fault.
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The question I stew on is how hosed are we? I'm concerned that the Republican house and Senate will just do whatever Trump desires, because they're authoritarians.
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Here we go, boys (and not-boys). Strap in, it's gonna be a bumpy ride. http://in.reuters.com/article/usa-election-russia-putin-idINKBN134227
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TheKennedys posted:Here we go, boys (and not-boys). Strap in, it's gonna be a bumpy ride. Maybe we will hit the reset button?
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Dreylad posted:I can see Trump being an incredibly lazy and pretty corrupt president who doesn't do much. unfortunately the republicans also control everything else. This is my take as well. The true defeat here isn't Trump, it's having a Republican president who can rubber stamp anything a Republican congress sends his way. It could have been anyone. At least it's not Cruz...?
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Lol if you think accelerationism or pandering to white men will correlate to Dem wins ever again. There won't be an Obama next time. We literally will not win again for another generation. This country is hosed and I hope the Republicans go out of their way to gently caress over straight white dudes, like they always do. You voted for this suicide pact white dudes, not us.
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Deadulus posted:Since Republicans have been running on Repeal Obamacare for the last 6 years. They pretty much have to do it now, right? Their supporters would go nuts if they get the whole federal govt and they leave it. They have the votes. They have a plan. It's going to happen. Mark my words: next year is the last under your ACA plan. Starting in 2018 every single insurance plan will be from South Dakota. Enjoy!
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Deified Data posted:I said in the election thread last night around 1:00 AM that I was checking out of politics for a while but I actually woke up with a clearer head than I thought. I'm mostly at peace with what happened. I'm sad and disappointed and a little apprehensive but mostly at peace. A random scattering of thoughts: Bernie would of brought in youth vote, but in the primary his tax policy was driving independents and moderates away in droves. My girlfriend was on that boat. She enthusiastically supported Clinton for the election but would have stayed home for Bernie because his tax plan turned her off completely.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:They have the votes. They have a plan. It's going to happen. Mark my words: next year is the last under your ACA plan. Now they got to decide though if they want healthcare to be around their necks.
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Cheesus posted:A few random thoughts: Outside of a few places like WNYC's On The Media, you're not going to get much real introspection about the media's failures.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:The stock market is fine. Up a little even. I guess the markets are okay with Trump after all. If he goes tariff war, they probably wont. At the moment they think he;'ll just get the police to kill the poor. Lightning Knight posted:Lol if you think accelerationism or pandering to white men will correlate to Dem wins ever again. Considering the world was already on task for a huge recession within the next five years and Trump and the GOP probably accelerating that, why do you not think we'll win? Trump lost the popular vote and he'll have two percent less supporters next time. Trump will be the racist poo poo head he promised to be and piss off minorities while the countries economy goes up in smoke and he and the GOP will get blamed. Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Nov 9, 2016 |
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Crowsbeak posted:If he goes tariff war, they probably wont. At the moment they think he;'ll just get the police to kill the poor. More bitching about the poor lower class, whatever will they do now??? Surprise motherfuckers, their the ones who supported the Trumpster the most
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Deified Data posted:Trump's powerful anti-reality field is disabled the second he moves into the White House. Once there's no horse race narrative to propagate the media is going to tear into him with a vengeance...like they should have been doing all along.
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