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Dog Jones posted:What do you mean? He almost won against her with almost no name recognition starting out and with the entire democratic establishment colluding against him Well as we just found out structural advantages in a campaign are worth dick and poo poo. So none of that should matter.
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Kuato posted:I don't get how the field was so weak this year. I recall the 08 convention thinking we'd have a deep pool in 16. Brian Schweitzer seemed like a guy that'd connect with rural America for instance, among others. Then we ended up with Mike Gravel 2.0, O'Malley and Hillary. I just don't understand these results, and hope I'll have a job by the time 2020 rolls around. because hillary has spent the past decade and a half destroying every single strong contender. shes a piece of poo poo
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Cubey posted:who the gently caress do the dems even run in 2020? do they try and groom duckworth and have her go for a populist platform? what the gently caress is the future of this party of imbeciles that thought chuck loving schumer would be a good majority leader? kanye 2020
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https://twitter.com/mulvihill79/status/796354920974716928 a 67 share in the middle of the night
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Cubey posted:who the gently caress do the dems even run in 2020? do they try and groom duckworth and have her go for a populist platform? what the gently caress is the future of this party of imbeciles that thought chuck loving schumer would be a good majority leader?
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:Q: If HRC was such a terrible campaigner and was so disliked and people voted against her, how do you explain Dems failing so completely from taking the Senate? Surely if it was personal agianst HRC, why did so many down ballot Dems suffer? I don't have actual numbers but my first guess would be that you can't get people to turn up to vote when you run your campaign on how lovely the other guy is and offer nothing positive
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euphronius posted:Ok. Thanks mr dictionary. It's a really charged word. You shouldn't call someone a fascist unless they, you know, are. If you do, you'll get the situation with Sanders where he's a socialist but no one cares because the bad joo joo on that word ran out. Except fascism is actually bad.
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Montasque posted:What the hell is going on with HRC? Everything pointed to her win. Everything. The only question was the score. Fox Ironic posted:Trump is now in the very strange position of needing to work with Progressives to pass Protectionist policies and keep the Christian Right from going full Theocracy, especicially since large scale Social Regression will ensure a Democratic victory in 2020 given how broadly accepted LGBT people are becoming. The first people on Trump's poo poo-list are not going to be private citizens who voted against him, they're going to be the Old Guard of the GOP that must be purged before he can enact the policies he ran on and ensure he holds on to power in 2020. Arguable. Mayor McCheese may survive in NC, but he's behind slightly with 99% in. Coupled with the fact that we thought maybe, just maybe racism was finally dying, it may swing back to hurting LGBTQ folks again. A GIANT PARSNIP posted:Good news everyone! The Nevada firewall held! That's the only piece of conventional wisdom that held up yesterday. Everything else broke down, though the turnout one may have been because there was no massive turnout like they predicted. Also: https://twitter.com/aseitzwald/status/796363176136888320
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Cubey posted:who the gently caress do the dems even run in 2020? do they try and groom duckworth and have her go for a populist platform? what the gently caress is the future of this party of imbeciles that thought chuck loving schumer would be a good majority leader? duckworth v booker for the nomination
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Not a Step posted:You can probably find some common ground with whites and minorities that isn't facism. Possible I guess but that goes against trumps base pretty hard.
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Dog Jones posted:I don't have actual numbers but my first guess would be that you can't get people to turn up to vote when you run your campaign on how lovely the other guy is and offer nothing positive There was plenty of positive messaging. The news just never covered it because its not sexy ratings inducing things involving Trump
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:Q: If HRC was such a terrible campaigner and was so disliked and people voted against her, how do you explain Dems failing so completely from taking the Senate? Surely if it was personal agianst HRC, why did so many down ballot Dems suffer? The rural vote that showed up also voted GOP downticket for the most part. Also, and here is a huge shocker, the Dems ran a ton of party insider dogshit retread Senate candidates
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Fox Ironic posted:Trump is now in the very strange position of needing to work with Progressives to pass Protectionist policies and keep the Christian Right from going full Theocracy, especicially since large scale Social Regression will ensure a Democratic victory in 2020 given how broadly accepted LGBT people are becoming. The first people on Trump's poo poo-list are not going to be private citizens who voted against him, they're going to be the Old Guard of the GOP that must be purged before he can enact the policies he ran on and ensure he holds on to power in 2020. That's actually a good point. I'm not hoping for anything good, but I certainly wouldn't complain if he burned out some of the old dead underbrush like Lindsay Graham from the Republican party. The problem is who replaces those half dead fucks. I can't help but wonder to what extent he's actually going to try to "be a president to everyone" because I genuinely can't see him doing anything but digging his heels in like a motherfucker.
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Montasque posted:What the hell is going on with HRC? It wouldn't surprise me if she sorta was, after this.
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I think the issue is that Hillary and the Dems figured that people were for the most part decent human beings, and it turned out that they were wrong. I've lost faith in this loving country. loving scrap it, everyone go home to the old world.
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ALSO HOT TAKE: Hillary lost because the system is poo poo http://www.rcvmaine.com/ Watch Maine 2018, if RCV goes active (it got majority vote and the referendum passed) and does well, it will show you guys exactly how the loving system is broken and a better way to vote Vote for who you want, not who you think will win
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euphronius posted:Possible I guess but that goes against trumps base pretty hard. Yeah, disaffected rural white voters would never go for socialism!
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Montasque posted:What the hell is going on with HRC? it was part of the leaks that her campaign reaallly wanted trump to win the republican nomination so she has to be feeling like shes monkeys pawed it.
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Woodchip posted:Morning cobs. Today we are all cobs.
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Tiler Kiwi posted:that ron paul YOU DIDN'T LISTEN gif, expert Bernie anime was right posted:what if
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LastInLine posted:I don't disagree with you, but it is the system we have and it will be the system under which politics will be played for the foreseeable future. Democrats (and really Republicans too) must adjust to this new political reality which has been around for the last century. What sport ball do you watch The answer is esports
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Pakled posted:The primary source of "anxiety and distress of rural whites" is that black people and Latinos and Muslims exist and want civil rights.
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NumberLast posted:Yeah, disaffected rural white voters would never go for socialism! Not class based Which is the whole point . They will go -- and responded to! - socialism based on race or nationality
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the american people just don't like email, folks
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DEAL. Me. IN!!!!!! *western civ collapses *
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Well as we just found out structural advantages in a campaign are worth dick and poo poo. So none of that should matter. I don't think thats a reasonable take away from this election at all
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Dog Jones posted:I don't have actual numbers but my first guess would be that you can't get people to turn up to vote when you run your campaign on how lovely the other guy is and offer nothing positive reminder that hillary had the most in-depth wonkiest policy team in decades that offered detailed workable plans to address education reform and poo poo but this guy never read that in a ticker on CNN so of course it didn't matter
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Well as we just found out structural advantages in a campaign are worth dick and poo poo. So none of that should matter. What you're not accounting for is that Democratic voters are morons, who don't know how to pick winners. Obama won because he was cool and campaigned on a positive message of change from an odious status quo, but you all decided this time to vote for the the status quo candidate who campaigned against change from an odious status quo.
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dammed if hillary doesn't show her face again after this and bill better thank god ross perot existed
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 At least Oklahoma got most of their ballot initiatives right.  I'm not looking forward to this new paradigm of executing prisoners by boiling them alive, but at least they're not sending people to prison for felony drug possession anymore, and at least we're not going to have a twelve cent sales tax.
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To be clear I thought Hillary was going to win and while I don't like her at all I did not want Trump to win. But can we finally stop pretending she was this super competent person surrounded by the best and smartest people ever and accept that she was a terrible candidate surrounded by yes men? And that Colin Powell put it best when he said she ruins everything she touches with her hubris? There's real issues in America right now with people being left behind, Trump tapped in to that and Hillary and her supporters thought they could identity politics themselves to a win. This needs to be a wakeup call.
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So was it the millennials that hosed the democrats? Looks like they went heavily 3rd party.
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Cubey posted:who the gently caress do the dems even run in 2020? do they try and groom duckworth and have her go for a populist platform? what the gently caress is the future of this party of imbeciles that thought chuck loving schumer would be a good majority leader? I'm curious about this too. Do we see an emergence of Corey Booker? Centralizing of Elizabeth Warren? Or do we get more old people representing the DNC in their infinite wisdom?
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euphronius posted:Possible I guess but that goes against trumps base pretty hard. I hold out the (probably wrong) hope that they voted Trump because he was the only game in town that seemed to give a poo poo about them, even if it was all lies. Bernie drew big crowds and solid numbers with whites in the primary.
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Nodelphi posted:So was it the millennials that hosed the democrats? White people hosed Dems
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Cubey posted:who the gently caress do the dems even run in 2020? do they try and groom duckworth and have her go for a populist platform? what the gently caress is the future of this party of imbeciles that thought chuck loving schumer would be a good majority leader? 2020 is a wash. It's best to give it to someone with no reputation to lose like O'Malley and wait for 2024.
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