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Agnosticnixie posted:The US needs more socialist ways and to stop basking it the neoliberal consensus so that's probably a good idea. Imprisoning violent people is a good idea. Imprisoning people for ideology is a really horrible precedent.
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steinrokkan posted:Trump people didn't vote for David Duke or whatever. Hmmm...I wonder how many of the 60K here in my state that did check the box for Duke...turned out to be Hillary supporters. 
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Nov 9, 2016 19:09
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corn in the bible posted:itt democrats think that THE HISPANICS vote in lockstep yeah I don't get it, socially the hispanic population has a lot more in common with the religious conservative right.
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nimh posted:Youre are literally denouncing straight white people. Thats why i called you a spic. You can choose where to live. gently caress you, racist.
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rudatron posted:Said black poster said that the US had a 'white people problem'. That is what makes them part of the problem. so do you take that kind of ghoulish glee in talking down to people irl because i cant imagine that does you much good socially
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JFairfax posted:So I was curious about the numbers in Florida and the demographic breakdown, so used these two sources for vote numbers and demographics: The Puerto Ricans in Florida do not hate trump like Mexicans do.
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I'm getting the feeling this outburst of ethnic slurs and "um just because I'm allied with the kkk how can you know I'm a racist??" is a small taste of the narrative the country is going to head down soon.
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steinrokkan posted:Trump people didn't vote for David Duke or whatever. No, but Trump does want to secure the existence of his people and a future for white children. Anyone who supports an open racist for president is de facto a racist themselves, whether they want to admit it or not.
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Sharkie posted:Oh hey a white supremacist. Can we expect that in a few decades you'll be singing the praises of Aztlan? "gently caress straight white people." Do i blend in now?
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Radish posted:I'm getting the feeling this outburst of ethnic slurs and "um just because I'm allied with the kkk how can you know I'm a racist??" is a small taste of the narrative the country is going to head down soon. But it's all about economic concerns don't ya know
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i mean dont get me wrong rudatron im sure theres some semblance of a point in your self-righteous harangues but it strikes me as super loving hilarious that in your reckoning we need treat the aggrieved white man with kids gloves, whereas angry minorities are counterrevolutionary
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PST posted:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37862521 A lot of these things look like he'd have serious trouble gaining congressional approval even with a GOP senate
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I know that people vote against self interest. Hell, that's not even an inherently bad thing. What I don't understand is how so many women and Hispanics could look Trump in the eyes for over a year and say gently caress it.
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C2C - 2.0 posted:Again, you're hinting that outside of identifiable groups like the KKK/Arayans/et. al., that racism wasn't a driving factor in the rest of the Trump voters. I'm "hinting" that it racism is one of ways in which frustration can manifest, and that Democrats are first incompetent that they can't use the same frustration to inspire a different, more constructive emotion, second that they refuse to delve into these supposedly forever tainted waters, thuse conceding the conservatives, who have no such reservations about interfering on ideologically hostile ground, more and more territory. In other words, that they are so afraid of getting their hands dirty that they would rather lose everything. Nobody is born racist, and nobody is irreversibly racist, especially if racism squares off demonstrably with his primary material concerns. If those were true, the entire leftist project would collapse at its foundations.
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C2C - 2.0 posted:Hmmm...I wonder how many of the 60K here in my state that did check the box for Duke...turned out to be Hillary supporters. clearly bernie bros
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Captain Magic posted:Imprisoning violent people is a good idea. Your country used to do this all the time to members of the hard left, somehow going after the hard right is a bridge too far? Do I need to remind that people who volunteered in Spain were listed as being premature anti-fascists, like there was a good time to not be anti-fascist?
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Nov 9, 2016 19:13
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I, for one, am looking forward to the idiotic trade wars in a quest for "good deals" the most.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:I know that people vote against self interest. Hell, that's not even an inherently bad thing. What I don't understand is how so many women and Hispanics could look Trump in the eyes for over a year and say gently caress it. FYG(or expect to get)M
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To add to that someone said that the GOP might nuke the fillibuster to deny Democrats the opportunity to influence the senate but have there been any moves to actually do that
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Also another reason I think trying to coddle diseased conservative brains is loving pointless is because I have a bunch of loving people blocked on Facebook whom I've tried to explain things to them in a kind matter and I was told I was a brainwashed liberal lamestream sheep. Partially because I used facts from liberal brainwashing universities instead of 'common sense'. So, yea. gently caress them.
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steinrokkan posted:Nobody is born racist, and nobody is irreversibly racist, especially if racism squares off demonstrably with his primary material concerns. If those were true, the entire leftist project would collapse from its foundations. ~looks at election results~ Uh it kind of is bro.
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nimh posted:Youre are literally denouncing straight white people. Thats why i called you a spic. You can choose where to live. Jesus Christ dude. Love it or leave it is bullshit and you should know better.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:I know that people vote against self interest. Hell, that's not even an inherently bad thing. What I don't understand is how so many women and Hispanics could look Trump in the eyes for over a year and say gently caress it. trump's policies are no more against the interests of poor cuban-americans than they are poor white americans and they aren't really any less attractive. fun fact: HISPANICS can be from lots of places, not just mexico, and if they're from a smaller country it's much more likely they aren't undoc and don't have undoc family either
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Lightning Knight posted:~looks at election results~ Sorry, but assuming that just because you lost an election, everybody is forever racist, is plain and simply the most idiotic thing I've heard in a long time.
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corn in the bible posted:trump's policies are no more against the interests of poor cuban-americans than they are poor white americans and they aren't really any less attractive. fun fact: HISPANICS can be from lots of places, not just mexico, and if they're from a smaller country it's much more likely they aren't undoc and don't have undoc family either also they're much more likely to be christian and can hate muslims just as much as white americans can.
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corn in the bible posted:itt democrats think that THE HISPANICS vote in lockstep This was something I think people underestimate. When Trump railed on hispanics of Mexican origin there were a significant amount Puerto Ricans and Cuban descended hispanics who nodded in agreement. There is a lot of hispanics that truly believe Republicans aren't talking about them when they rail against Mexicans.
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Drunkboxer posted:I, for one, am looking forward to the idiotic trade wars in a quest for "good deals" the most. on a scale of one to ten, im figuring we are looking at "drunken game of Settlers of Catan where one guy doesnt stop making 'wood for sheep' jokes until everyone else is ready to do a murder"
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Lightning Knight posted:
What are you doing there? Leave. You live there and and whinge becuase an image of you isnt in power. Ungrateful hypocrite
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I bet you're super pleasant in real life.
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steinrokkan posted:Sorry, but assuming that just because you lost an election, everybody is forever racist, is plain and simply the most idiotic thing I've heard in a long time. I mean we didn't just lose this election, we also almost certainly will lose 2018 and 2020. That's apocalyptic.
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nimh posted:Youre are literally denouncing straight white people. Thats why i called you a spic. You can choose where to live. eat some poo poo you loving numbskull
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if the only lesson liberals choose to take from this is "hillary lost because she's a woman" then we really are doomed and there is no way we'll get congress in 2018 or the white house in 2020
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Captain Magic posted:They are despicable, but special rules become common rules very easily. This is not a liberal way to think. I am no liberal. Deified Data posted:There is no convincing the true believers and never has been. This election was won because the media's focus on HRC's imaginary failings caused elements of her base to stay home. I firmly believe the media shaped this election into whatever form it needed to take to benefit their ratings. Trump's presidency won't be spared either. Nah its a good policy if their for violent genocide. Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Nov 9, 2016 |
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Doctor Butts posted:Also another reason I think trying to coddle diseased conservative brains is loving pointless is because I have a bunch of loving people blocked on Facebook whom I've tried to explain things to them in a kind matter and I was told I was a brainwashed liberal lamestream sheep. Partially because I used facts from liberal brainwashing universities instead of 'common sense'. Good. Let the hate consume you. It's not us who has to change, it's them! Which they won't, so maybe if there was only some way to make these people stop existing entirely...
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Hey guys remember when SA banned people for using racial slurs? Welcome to Trump's America
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BiohazrD posted:trump literally proved that every single thing we thought you needed in a modern campaign was actually useless. that's insane to think about A huge part of this is that people were fed up with establishment folks. It is why Bernie did unexpectedly well and why trump beat all of these other vetted conservatives. Also note that trump has been talking about WPA style projects that really resonate with the rust belters. A large part of this election was also about who didn't vote and why.
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I mean, people itt are proposing to use their Facebook conversations as a guideline for a long term federal strategy of political professionals. Never go full retard. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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nimh posted:Hey Homeboy, you live in a predominately straight white nation. You dont want to be ruled predominately by straight white men then GTFO. Turns out that the secret of nimh is that he's racist.
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nimh posted:What are you doing there? Leave. There's a difference between wanting an image of yourself and not wanting someone in power who campaigned on revoking most of your rights, hth
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I'm not from the US, so this probably doesn't mean much, but I was so depressed by the outcome that I had to start looking for some kind of silver lining. One I thought about was how during this campaign I was so scared of Trump winning that I often found myself just hoping Romney had won in 2012 so we wouldn't have to watch this. That lead me to think that maybe, just maybe through electing "just" Trump, America has dodged electing someone even worse in 2020. If we had got a President Clinton out of this election with a margin of narrowly under or over 300 electoral votes, she would have potentially been in big trouble in four years and potentially against someone just as vile and divisive as Trump, but potentially actually very clever and possibly a "true believer" in everything they say. In European terms, just maybe America elected a Silvio Berlusconi here but avoided electing, you know, Hitler in 2020. At the very least Trump probably said a lot of what he said just to get elected. Absolutely horrifying in how it legitimizes such rhetoric, but at least he probably doesn't believe in much of it. At least America elected someone who was kind of courteous and respectful in his victory speech, not someone who instantly starts spewing about flushing out national traitors or something, Yeah, that's all I got for now. Probably not much of a relief for everyone terrified for their future right now. I'm from Northern Europe and I'm not terribly excited about what Trump's foreign policy means for Russia's options from here on out 
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