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Super Jay Mann
Nov 6, 2008

Polikarpov posted:

When I played trumpet if somebody asked me to play more quietly I would smile and nod and then play louder because I assumed they couldn't hear how good I was.

I botched a trumpet solo performance once because I was playing too quietly

I learned my lesson.

Trumpets are loud and always own whatever song they're in and if you don't like that you can go back to playing whatever dinky woodwind instrument you think sounds subtle or emotional or whatever :colbert:

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Psiwri
Mar 8, 2012

"The Foecast today calls for dark clouds, booming thunder and F.O.E.s everywhere!"
All these things us poor percussionists are oblivious to, or this one was anyway. No one out impacts me.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Listen🎺to🎺me ,🎺I'm🎺the🎺best🎺in🎺the🎺world🎺!

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
Flutes never give a single tiny gently caress what the rest of the band is doing because we can't see you at all, and we are too busy trying to not gently caress up all the fingerings and not pass out.

Edit: When I first started playing I would sometimes get a mild buzz due to my weak rear end baby lungs not bringing in enough oxygen.

paragon1 fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Nov 4, 2016

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

An outline of the next arc of the story! Spoilers are vague and minor, but they are spoilers so don't read if that's your thing.

https://twitter.com/ultimatemegax/status/794247474974171136

Yes_Cantaloupe
Feb 28, 2005
I watched two eps of eupho in a row since I somehow never got to last week's.

Nozomi literally giving Mizore back her oboe was awfully unsubtle, but it was a good ep, and a good conclusion to that arc NOW ENOUGH ABOUT THAT INFERIOR EPISODE HOLY poo poo THIS WEEK'S!!!!!!

That was so amazingly good!!! That performance holy poo poo!!!! I'd seen it talked up, but it was amazing! I couldn't bear to pause it, so I had to wipe away tears of amazement constantly. It was so good!!!

There's more to be said about it, but folks have probably said it, and right now I can't, I just can't.

Alpha Kenny Juan
Apr 11, 2007

Yes_Cantaloupe posted:

I watched two eps of eupho in a row since I somehow never got to last week's.

Nozomi literally giving Mizore back her oboe was awfully unsubtle, but it was a good ep, and a good conclusion to that arc NOW ENOUGH ABOUT THAT INFERIOR EPISODE HOLY poo poo THIS WEEK'S!!!!!!

That was so amazingly good!!! That performance holy poo poo!!!! I'd seen it talked up, but it was amazing! I couldn't bear to pause it, so I had to wipe away tears of amazement constantly. It was so good!!!

There's more to be said about it, but folks have probably said it, and right now I can't, I just can't.

Sound! Euphonium may save anime, but it killed anime watchers in the process. Hearts can only waku waku so much. :ohdear:

rip yes cantaloupe.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

https://twitter.com/korigaming/status/790178768086241280

Cialis Railman
Apr 20, 2007


They should mix the two and have a "my staple food is cement" shirt

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

One thing I've always found interesting is how there's this whole "band geek" culture and stereotype around bands but there doesn't seem to be the same sort of culture in symphonies (I played cello in the youth symphony as a teenager). The main possible distinction I can think of is that everyone in bands seems to know everyone else, while in the symphony you mostly just know people who play your own instruments (or closely related instruments, like the other string instruments in my case). I imagine this is partly because bands are usually organized around a specific school, while the youth symphony is more of an "elite" group that draws from the entire city and surrounding area. I also think another part of it is the fact that just far more people in general have been in bands (again due to most schools having a band and the more "elite" nature of youth symphonies in most cities), so far more people have that shared experience as a part of their youth.

All this being said, it was definitely still a very enjoyable social experience and big performances at fancy venues were fun and rewarding. I'm just curious why there isn't the same sort of stereotype (i.e. "band geeks are like this!") and shared experience as you see "band geeks" refer to. Like, I rarely see people say "lol I'm just such a symphony geek!" They generally identify more with their specific instrument than just "being a member of a symphony."

(In the interest of full disclosure, I definitely have a sort of elitist view towards bands and string-only orchestras (at the youth level). I'm definitely aware that elite bands that are just as skilled as symphony groups exist, but most people who were in a band as a teenager were just part of their school group, which is generally a pretty amateur operation unless you go to some elite music high school or something. When I listen to good band music, I usually find myself thinking "man, this would be so much better if it also had some string instruments". The exception to this is small brass and/or woodwind ensembles, though that's not what people are usually thinking of when they refer to bands.)

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
It's because rich people don't have to deal with the same problems as the rest of us Ytlaya.

The stereotype is formed from media depictions and a general public disdain for the arts in any form. Many public schools in the US literally only still have music programs so that they can continue to have a marching band for the football games. My highschool didn't even do group competitions.

Edit: Now that I think about it, can you even walk and play well at the same time with most string instruments?

paragon1 fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Nov 5, 2016

Zenostein
Aug 16, 2008

:h::h::h:Alhamdulillah-chan:h::h::h:

Ytlaya posted:

One thing I've always found interesting is how there's this whole "band geek" culture and stereotype around bands but there doesn't seem to be the same sort of culture in symphonies (I played cello in the youth symphony as a teenager). The main possible distinction I can think of is that everyone in bands seems to know everyone else, while in the symphony you mostly just know people who play your own instruments (or closely related instruments, like the other string instruments in my case). I imagine this is partly because bands are usually organized around a specific school, while the youth symphony is more of an "elite" group that draws from the entire city and surrounding area. I also think another part of it is the fact that just far more people in general have been in bands (again due to most schools having a band and the more "elite" nature of youth symphonies in most cities), so far more people have that shared experience as a part of their youth.

Looking back, of all the performing arts, the most visible ones were always the [marching] band and the theatre. Those are also the groups with the most "weirdos." I can't really speak for the chorus, since that was more like a diversion from orchestra, but even the really gung-ho sorts in the orchestra weren't really obsessive in the way that the band kids were. And the marching band kids were basically just band kids but even worse. Then again, I think we only once or twice played a piece where we'd borrow some of the band kids. Mostly, orchestra kept to the orchestra, and band to the band (except I think a few of the bassists, maybe?), and either could swing by the chorus if they wanted. Of course, in my district (and I think was a state Dept. of Ed. thing), in grade school you start out in the orchestra, can switch to band after a year, and you have to take some sort of art (so you could switch to just chorus or some sort of visual art or theatre) up through freshman year of high school. So at least fro my perspective, the band kids were relatively few (and hyper-dedicated and tight-knit and a bit crazy). Honestly, I think the reason that stereotype has quite so much staying power is a) because they're visible and noisy as hell — even if it's just the winter concert, the band is easily the noisiest set; b) it gets played to hell and back in lots of high-school stuff, even just as a side joke.

Well, that and I guess because when you think orchestras or symphonies, you usually think of more "refined" music, and less "star wars medley pt. b." There are still plenty of stereotypes, but starched shirts and bowties are less interesting than "and one time, in band camp…"

As for being a, say, violinist, rather than an orchestra geek or a symphony geek, I think part of that might be the way it's divided up — orchestras are more-or-less divided by instrument, and then maybe sometimes you'd lump together say, 2d/3d violin and violas or whatever, but it's pretty rare to just talk about 'strings,' except maybe in a symphony? The whole experience just seems a bit more sectioned than bands seem to be.

Then again, I don't really understand the whole competition thing. Besides seasonal concerts, we had what NYSSMA's website describes as "evaluations." So basically the whole orchestra gets graded, but it's not actually a competition. There are individual competitions for part of the all-state ensemble, but I don't really know anything about that. So really, this is all fascinating in a way beyond "oh, so there is more to it than those weird jokes…"

paragon1 posted:

Edit: Now that I think about it, can you even walk and play well at the same time with most string instruments?

I would love to see someone playing a violin set in a steadicam or something. For the cello/bass you could set them in pushcarts!
It would be a disaster, probably.

I wonder if Kumiko's pal in Rikka'll be showing up again any time soon? She sorta shows up every six or so episodes for about two minutes. And while it's nice to see that Kumiko actually does have friends outside of this school's band, it feels like she's meant to be something; kinda like that senpai who quit playing, and her sister who quit playing, etc.

Zenostein fucked around with this message at 09:17 on Nov 5, 2016

nielsm
Jun 1, 2009



Playing double bass marching would have the obvious problem of kicking the instrument with one leg constantly, or taking stupidly short steps. Also, it'd take a stupid amount of practice to bow while marching, the fine arm control required just doesn't combine well with the rythmic, bumpy movement of marching.
Build a pedal driven cart for the strings instead.

Yes_Cantaloupe
Feb 28, 2005
I mean, you could put it in the pit. Can it play loud enough to bother, though?

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

Yes_Cantaloupe posted:

I mean, you could put it in the pit. Can it play loud enough to bother, though?

I can't think of a string instrument that can play loud enough to be heard well from the stands of a football stadium without either coming in way bigger numbers than would be practical or being mic'd.

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Ytlaya posted:

One thing I've always found interesting is how there's this whole "band geek" culture and stereotype around bands but there doesn't seem to be the same sort of culture in symphonies (I played cello in the youth symphony as a teenager). The main possible distinction I can think of is that everyone in bands seems to know everyone else, while in the symphony you mostly just know people who play your own instruments (or closely related instruments, like the other string instruments in my case). I imagine this is partly because bands are usually organized around a specific school, while the youth symphony is more of an "elite" group that draws from the entire city and surrounding area. I also think another part of it is the fact that just far more people in general have been in bands (again due to most schools having a band and the more "elite" nature of youth symphonies in most cities), so far more people have that shared experience as a part of their youth.

All this being said, it was definitely still a very enjoyable social experience and big performances at fancy venues were fun and rewarding. I'm just curious why there isn't the same sort of stereotype (i.e. "band geeks are like this!") and shared experience as you see "band geeks" refer to. Like, I rarely see people say "lol I'm just such a symphony geek!" They generally identify more with their specific instrument than just "being a member of a symphony."

(In the interest of full disclosure, I definitely have a sort of elitist view towards bands and string-only orchestras (at the youth level). I'm definitely aware that elite bands that are just as skilled as symphony groups exist, but most people who were in a band as a teenager were just part of their school group, which is generally a pretty amateur operation unless you go to some elite music high school or something. When I listen to good band music, I usually find myself thinking "man, this would be so much better if it also had some string instruments". The exception to this is small brass and/or woodwind ensembles, though that's not what people are usually thinking of when they refer to bands.)

Youth Symphonies are just a bunch of band geeks with a bunch of orchestra nerds in the same room. It's nothing that complex.

Space Flower
Sep 10, 2014

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finally, ribbons will eat natsuki's cake

Space Flower
Sep 10, 2014

by Games Forum


this is the greatest day in human history

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

press f to always think of taki-sensei's wife

DisDisDis
Dec 22, 2013
They're playing Eiichi Ohtaki oh my goddd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH9yLGoIxBw

Mentat Radnor
Apr 24, 2008

~Water flowers every day~

DisDisDis posted:

They're playing Eiichi Ohtaki oh my goddd

I knew I recognized that. I feel like I've heard the other one they played as well, but I don't know the name of the song.

Great episode overall, especially the little character vignettes at the cultural festival.

Taki-sensei wearing his ring, buying romantic flowers and probably going to put them on his dead wife's grave in the middle of a typhoon. :cry:

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

Hah. I like what's his face talking about Taki "Well, it's not like anyone can tell anything about his personality by how he looks" being followed up with a cut to Reina frowning. That's a rather pointed cut.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

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A Citroën Ami! Certainly an... individual choice there, Taki-sensei.

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

Episode was real good. A nice breather after the emotional climax of last week.

Parallax
Jan 14, 2006

ok i like asuka again

Yes_Cantaloupe
Feb 28, 2005
X

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Still working my way through season 1



:(

Also i'm glad these two are turning out to be such great friends.



Nitrousoxide fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Nov 10, 2016

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



quote is not edit

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

It's true.

https://twitter.com/walfieee/status/796934336197128192

Helter Skelter
Feb 10, 2004

BEARD OF HAVOC

Indeed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2KLX5navCI

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

New episode was really really good - finally got the insight into what Asuka's deal is that I'd been waiting for forever. The performance was fun, too. I'm a sucker for Bari Saxophone features.

Spiritus Nox fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Nov 16, 2016

Helter Skelter
Feb 10, 2004

BEARD OF HAVOC

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant
Well, we've finally found a character more difficult to put up with than Asuka. Her mother.

Really good character animation this week. You can really tell how Asuka's having a hard time putting up her usual attitude.

Also I'm worried about Kumiko's sister. :ohdear:

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


That part when Asuka shows up the next day to her section, reassuring them it's alright, subtly TAKING A DEEP BREATH for a second and carrying on like nothing ever happened.

Yes, that was some fine character animation right there.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



The VA's and animators on this show are just incredible

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


Y'all know what time it is?

Yeah that's right.

Kumiko noises time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wNPfxOhmRY&hd=1

dordreff
Jul 16, 2013

Negrostrike posted:

Y'all know what time it is?

Yeah that's right.

Kumiko noises time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wNPfxOhmRY&hd=1

Disappointingly few good Kumiko Noises this episode.

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Asuka's VA loving killed it. Holy poo poo. Everything is wonderful.

FAT BATMAN
Dec 12, 2009

I loved everything about Haruka stepping up in her roles as a President and Badass. Her solo was awesome.

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Space Flower
Sep 10, 2014

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she gave sapphy an ahogerub

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