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I'm just looking forward to QS being the next official opposition Look, I can always dream.
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Agnosticnixie posted:Or we could vote NDP/QS The NDP are too busy staring through a gendered lens into thatcher's mummified rear end in a top hat to learn enough from this to put up any effective resistance It's a only a matter of time now, I hope you middle class people enjoyed having jobs
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Nov 9, 2016 19:57
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the next 4 years are going to be instructive regarding how much the current electorate will actually turn against you for lying to them I think
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Nov 9, 2016 20:03
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JawKnee posted:the next 4 years are going to be instructive regarding how much the current electorate will actually turn against you for lying to them I think Unlike the last 50 years where politicians followed through on their campaign promises.
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Nov 9, 2016 20:05
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JawKnee posted:the next 4 years are going to be instructive regarding how much the current electorate will actually turn against you for lying to them I think Three years. Trudeau's already had one.
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Nov 9, 2016 20:07
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JawKnee posted:the next 4 years are going to be instructive regarding how much the current electorate will actually turn against you for lying to them I think Yeah, that's where my thinking is at. All these white people that voted for Trump are still going to be angry and disillusioned in 4 years, and either stay home or vote for someone who lies to them better, because he is not going to fulfill 10% of what he promised. Let's see if he has the balls to repeal the healthcare act before the mid-terms.
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Nov 9, 2016 20:08
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flakeloaf posted:Three years. Trudeau's already had one. Elections can be 5 years apart. The latest they could call the next is Nov 4 2020. Seems like a safe date, probably won't be much else going on around then.
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Nov 9, 2016 20:09
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flakeloaf posted:Three years. Trudeau's already had one. That was just the warmup year though. Nobody expects you to achieve anything on your warmup year. That's selfie time!
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Nov 9, 2016 20:11
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Lol like repealing Obamacare is even going to register compared to the pain of Trump's tax breaks.
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Nov 9, 2016 20:18
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Once the screaming in USpol dies down I'm going to have to dig through my post history to screencap and share with them when I drunkenly wandered over there to post a trump win betting slip and said "your country is actually dumb enough to do this", then got like a page of responses about what an idiot I was and that's impossible and Iron Hillary has a guaranteed lock. Truly a great cultural victory for undeserved Canadian smugness.
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Nov 9, 2016 20:19
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Should have made that Trump bet.
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Nov 9, 2016 20:27
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Tom Mulcair called the eventual president-elect a "fascist", and urged JT to denounce him. Mulcair is finished I think.
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Nov 9, 2016 20:26
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He's not wrong. You're not wrong.
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Nov 9, 2016 20:31
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THC posted:Tom Mulcair called the eventual president-elect a "fascist", and urged JT to denounce him. Mulcair is finished I think. Well, he isnt wrong. Trump is a fascist and Trudeau, a guy who never stops bragging about being a feminist, was totally silent even after the damning audio tapes and sexual assault cases came out. Now that I think about it though, this kind of implies that Trudeau and the Liberals saw this coming, which also implies they know its only a matter of time before it hits here too. The NDP on the other hand... 
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Nov 9, 2016 20:34
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Furnaceface posted:Well, he isnt wrong. Trump is a fascist and Trudeau, a guy who never stops bragging about being a feminist, was totally silent even after the damning audio tapes and sexual assault cases came out. It's a long standing policy across various democracies that you don't comment on other people's elections. I'm not giving justin poo poo for not speaking out.
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Nov 9, 2016 20:37
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Furnaceface posted:Well, he isnt wrong. Trump is a fascist and Trudeau, a guy who never stops bragging about being a feminist, was totally silent even after the damning audio tapes and sexual assault cases came out. To be fair, predicting the American public will do the dumbest possible loving thing in any given circumstance is a pretty safe bet.
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Nov 9, 2016 20:38
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Monaghan posted:It's a long standing policy across various democracies that you don't comment on other people's elections. I'm not giving justin poo poo for not speaking out. Yeah, it's extra bad for a Canadian PM to call the president of the US a fascist sex criminal, even if he is one.
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Nov 9, 2016 20:39
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Monaghan posted:It's a long standing policy across various democracies that you don't comment on other people's elections. I'm not giving justin poo poo for not speaking out. Considering how it hosed relations between Chretien and GWB, yeah.
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Nov 9, 2016 20:41
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Justin didn't call Trump a fascist because it's not a good idea to comment on foreign elections, especially American ones. It's also not a good idea to antagonize the American president, or someone who could soon become the American president.
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Nov 9, 2016 20:41
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Monaghan posted:It's a long standing policy across various democracies that you don't comment on other people's elections. I'm not giving justin poo poo for not speaking out. Then democracy is dumb. Full communism now. 
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Nov 9, 2016 20:44
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Pinterest Mom posted:If we're thinking of an NDP strategy to bring back people who feel they've been left behind by the system, I feel like the only model we've seen, and it's been to some extent successful, for that is the ONDP's efforts to break into SW Ontario. Ok, I'm confused. How exactly would this be different from Tom Mulcair's 2015 campaign or Olivia Chows mayoral election? Or were those also just cases of a great strategy that was regrettably executed by incompetent people?
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Nov 9, 2016 20:52
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mulcair is not wrong, and he is done. which is why I figure he's out of fucks to give.
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Nov 9, 2016 20:53
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Helsing posted:Ok, I'm confused. How exactly would this be different from Tom Mulcair's 2015 campaign or Olivia Chows mayoral election? Or were those also just cases of a great strategy that was regrettably executed by incompetent people? Andrea ran a populist anti-establishment campaign for the post-industrial cities and resource producing regions. Tom and Olivia ran safe-governing-alternative campaigns for the large population centres and the suburbs.
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Nov 9, 2016 20:59
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Baronjutter posted:Yeah, it's extra bad for a Canadian PM to call the president of the US a fascist sex criminal, even if he is one. Especially when that president is an infamous narcissist famous for being unable to control himself and having a pathological need to fire back at any and all critics. Also, new Kelly Leitch campaign slogan: Leitch - It can happen here!
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Nov 9, 2016 21:30
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Wow the USpol thread is some extreme gnashing of teeth and casting blame all over the drat place. I guess that's normal the day after such a loss, but still
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Nov 9, 2016 21:38
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JawKnee posted:Wow the USpol thread is some extreme gnashing of teeth and casting blame all over the drat place. I guess that's normal the day after such an embarrasing loss for the supposed president elect in waiting by 
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Nov 9, 2016 21:42
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hey morons, do you even know what was at stake in this election? Trump and his supermajority government will get to appoint 1, maybe 2, maybe 3 SCOTUS justices. This means that the US has been plotted for a socially conservative course for the next 30 years. If I were an american liberal I'd really be considering suicide right now.
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Nov 9, 2016 21:44
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namaste faggots posted:hey morons, do you even know what was at stake in this election? Trump and his supermajority government will get to appoint 1, maybe 2, maybe 3 SCOTUS justices. This means that the US has been plotted for a socially conservative course for the next 30 years. If I were an american liberal I'd really be considering suicide right now. That's why there is the suicide prevention thread in CSPAM lmao, what a joke of an election cycle. historic, but a joke
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Nov 9, 2016 21:45
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i can't even put into words how terrible i feel about this election and i'm not even loving american
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Nov 9, 2016 21:49
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I hear you brah, the market reaction has been p bad, so thus far I've got diddly to show for a reality tv taco grabbing villian sweeping the us election. So mad rn about my FYGM issue here
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Nov 9, 2016 21:51
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Aren't you guys happy TPP will die?
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Nov 9, 2016 21:55
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namaste faggots posted:hey morons, do you even know what was at stake in this election? Trump and his supermajority government will get to appoint 1, maybe 2, maybe 3 SCOTUS justices. This means that the US has been plotted for a socially conservative course for the next 30 years. If I were an american liberal I'd really be considering suicide right now. Yep, was thinking about that last night. What's the path forward do you think for the Dems? Try their damnedest to take the senate in 2018? Try to appeal to rust-belt states more? Also, do you still think not voting is a good idea, or is that just reserved for Canadian elections?
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Nov 9, 2016 21:55
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It's going to keep getting worse before it gets better isn't it? I don't even have any intuition as to how bad things can actually get.
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Nov 9, 2016 21:56
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You know what? gently caress it. The accelerationists are right. LePen is going to get France, Brexit is just British fascism renamed, we're staring at president Trump. It's a poor poker hand. Progressive politics are dead, the left in the US chose a poo poo globalist candidate. We're all so hosed. As goes America so go all of us. The SCOTUS is going to be hard right for a generation. Yes I'm having a meltdown.
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squirrelzipper posted:You know what? gently caress it. The accelerationists are right. LePen is going to get France, Brexit is just British fascism renamed, we're staring at president Trump. It's a poor poker hand. Progressive politics are dead, the left in the US chose a poo poo globalist candidate. We're all so hosed. As goes America so go all of us. The SCOTUS is going to be hard right for a generation. Le Pen will still probably lose even with Sarkozy being a pissant little poo poo about it, but it will be closer than it's ever been. I will also refrain from using that defeat as schadenfreude with US liberals who kept insisting the opposite (Trump loses, Le Pen wins) would be true, because it's still horrifying if it translates to more FN seats at the national assembly. The only panic with the SCOTUS is if RBG and Kennedy die. Soon the grand soir will usher in world revolution 
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Nov 9, 2016 22:05
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I can only hope the democrat stop picking loving corporatist nominee's but ahhaha like that's ever going to happen.
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Nov 9, 2016 22:06
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Have it. Every reality of climate change is already worse than the worst model. We've already waited to long and perhaps passed the point of no return already. They've just put a whole bunch of people who won't or can't admit climate change even exists in charge if their government. We're hosed.
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Nov 9, 2016 22:05
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JawKnee posted:Yep, was thinking about that last night. What's the path forward do you think for the Dems? Try their damnedest to take the senate in 2018? Try to appeal to rust-belt states more? hmm good point i think will start voting in canadian elections again because this country is a leader of the free world, an economic juggernaut and a shining light of technological innovation and
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peter banana posted:Have it. Every reality of climate change is already worse than the worst model. We've already waited to long and perhaps passed the point of no return already. They've just put a whole bunch of people who won't or can't admit climate change even exists in charge if their government. politico says trump is going to appoint a climate change denier as EPA administrator so looool
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