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Fidel Castronaut posted:We have them but haven't been giving them the attention they deserve. I mean, I love Beyonce but her brand of feminism is very safe and very neoliberal-friendly. There are artists and activists on the fringe that we need to boost. And, hopefully, we don't consider them fringe this time around. No, as a good friend to a lot of them, loving hide those people. They disproportionately scare a bunch of stupid boring idiots that still vote
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A lot of people on my Twitter feed were reminding me that this election occurred after the repeal of the voting rights act. I agree that the repeal of that act sucks, but is there any evidence that it had a notable effect on the outcome of this election?
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100 degrees Calcium posted:A lot of people on my Twitter feed were reminding me that this election occurred after the repeal of the voting rights act. I agree that the repeal of that act sucks, but is there any evidence that it had a notable effect on the outcome of this election? NC african american turnout down in the hundreds of thousands
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lol & ty for my future sig
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Phi230 posted:all you fuckin milk drinkers need to stop with the defeatist bullshit this guy, I'm thinking this guy is on to something
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100 degrees Calcium posted:A lot of people on my Twitter feed were reminding me that this election occurred after the repeal of the voting rights act. I agree that the repeal of that act sucks, but is there any evidence that it had a notable effect on the outcome of this election? minority turnout was down but good luck puzzling out exactly what caused it
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Lord of Pie posted:lol nothing matters it's true.
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NecroMonster posted:make the "death is certain wizard" the background image for c-spam please
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Phi230 posted:NC african american turnout down in the hundreds of thousands oh dang
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Pook Good Mook posted:That's right. But that doesn't mean that Bernie was more electable. Maybe he could have convinced people who are normally Republican to vote for him enough to make up his defecit among minorities but I'm not so sure. Hillary won 14 of the largest 15 states in the country, most of which always vote for the Democratic candidate. bernie's deficit with minorities was an idea that was manufactured by hillary's campaign and became a self-powered narrative and then a reality, i have serious doubts that it would have held in the general dude and if the states that always vote D want one candidate while swingier states want another, it might be a good electoral strategy to run the latter candidate just saying i was all in for hillary after she beat bernie but it's become pretty clear that americans are so gullible when it comes to made-up scandals that bernie was, counterintuitively, the more electable candidate
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Phi230 posted:NC african american turnout down in the hundreds of thousands to be extremely fair, it's hard to tell if that's because of the voting rights act repeal or because the wife of "woops my laws locked up all of the blacks" ran for president probably a bit of both
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GrimGypsy posted:this guy, I'm thinking this guy is on to something yeah ordinary partisanship is over, anger is the only language america understands lol
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"Bernie can't win the south!" *doesnt win the south*
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Southpark predicted this whole thing awhile ago people who get their politics from southpark are The Worst
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logikv9 posted:The poll data failed. All meaningful metrics of data failed. The only metric that saw this coming was this ear-to-the-ground highly anecdotal evidence that floated around, and that is functionally indistinguishable from your standard echochamber-repeat. Actually, this type of backlash was observable as a possibility from a materialist analysis, although predictions from that kind of theory are don't have any immediate predictive power without hard data to wrap them around. You didn't have the right theory, so you didn't have the right conceptual tools for sifting data let alone interpreting it - the math nerds weren't looking at the right numbers in the first place. Here's the thing I find really interesting - people were lying to the pollsters. There was so much social shaming about trump going around that people kept it bottled up inside. Then they just went full gently caress this gay earth in the poll booth. Hey liberals. Shaming and value signalling as some kind of tool of social eugenics is a loving terrible idea.
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Guy DeBorgore posted:we thought hillary was immune to scandal after so many years. we were wrong. Yuppp That's a good way to say it
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i dunno if i buy this shy tory crap. 'the polls are wrong because people literally didn't want to wear the hat' angle. is there any evidence of this. i think its more likely the polling methodology was wrong edit: or actually, more like the methodology wasnt good enough because polling has become way harder Mia Wasikowska fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Nov 10, 2016 |
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splifyphus posted:Actually, this type of backlash was observable as a possibility from a materialist analysis, although predictions from that kind of theory are don't have any immediate predictive power without hard data to wrap them around. You didn't have the right theory, so you didn't have the right conceptual tools for sifting data let alone interpreting it - the math nerds weren't looking at the right numbers in the first place. Uh maybe but not shaming rank racists and misogynists seems like conceding a lot
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euphronius posted:This shows the path to trump creating a electoral behemoth . I don't know if he can take it tho Every Democrat needs to understand this. DONALD TRUMP DID NOT FORGE OR CREATE A NEW COALITION. He got nearly the same amount of votes as Romney did and a few less tha McCain. This election was lost because Democrats didn't turn up. People can differ about why this was the case and how to fix it but Donald Trump got the same basic block of voters Romney did. Seriously, look at the state by state numbers. The point is, we are not entering 50 years of Conservative darkness. The next four years are going to SUCK. But more people wanted Hillary to be President than Trump. 2/3 of the country doesn't care about gay marriage, women in the miliary, abortions, etc. The next Democratic nominee needs to find a way to activate the 7 million voters who stayed home yesterday. Hell, even 2 million of them would get the job done. It's very very doable.
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:people who get their politics from southpark are The Worst "perhaps the answer is somewhere in the middle!"
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Zas posted:i dunno if i buy this shy tory crap. 'the polls are wrong because people literally didn't want to wear the hat' angle. is there any evidence of this. i think its more likely their methodology was wrong Everyone was predicting something like 2012 turnout
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euphronius posted:Ebrnie he was right back then he was right now he's too good for america, svck it 
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Pick posted:No, as a good friend to a lot of them, loving hide those people. They disproportionately scare a bunch of stupid boring idiots that still vote Agreed, Obama let these people perform for his rallies but he didn't make them a loving centerpiece to the "show" that he pitched to the news networks to cover. They were incidental to the event, there to entice people to come jazz up the crowd for an extra hour while the candidate was traveling to the venue.
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I still can't believe she had to send out a lackey to send everyone home and waited until loving 130pm the next day to give a consesion speach. What a poo poo end to a poo poo candidate. The best thing to come out of this was watching reddit loving melt down throughout the night.
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Optimus_Rhyme posted:I still can't believe she had to send out a lackey to send everyone home and waited until loving 130pm the next day to give a consesion speach. What a poo poo end to a poo poo candidate. I think she honestly had a breakdown . That's pretty understandable
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euphronius posted:I think she honestly had a breakdown . Got called later than the last two times too. Next morning isn't that nuts.
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GrimGypsy posted:this guy, I'm thinking this guy is on to something its not even my idea I look back and I see where we could succeed where our forebears failed. If we had the unity, if we had the FIRE that the leaders we used to have then we would be in a much better place again I say where are our leaders? BLM is a leaderless organization. Its biggest mistake. Bernie is all we got. I see the fire that drives him. The fire from Civil Rights. The fire from the Vietnam era. The fire that we lack. we have to show the right every single day that they are not welcome. we need to organize. No one-off protests. No impotent token acts of civil disobedience. We need the fire back.
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Pook Good Mook posted:I just want to add this about Bernie, and this comes from someone who was one of the first 30,000 or so who voted for him (Iowa). Sanders needs to get the gently caress out of the Democratic party. He's offering economic policies that help the white working class, aka racists and bigots, at the expense of rich white social liberals. That's not tolerable anymore and anybody who supports that is just as bad as a Trump supporter. Populism is just as vile as racism and sexism and the enemy of social liberalism. Even worse, if we did get votes form it we'd be diluting minority votes with racist votes, anybody who advocates getting more white working votes is signing up with bigotry. Sanders economic desires are dead in a socially liberal party, and the white working class is dead in one as well. Good riddance to both of them as well.
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Vox Nihili posted:hillfolk on facebook update: still blaming bernie bros a battle as old as the invention of war
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Zas posted:i dunno if i buy this shy tory crap. 'the polls are wrong because people literally didn't want to wear the hat' angle. is there any evidence of this. i think its more likely the polling methodology was wrong Polling not by state was wrong and thus the electoral college loss. Shook Nate reporting that national polling was more accurate than 2012 and thus her general election win.
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