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Nov 9, 2016 05:48
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GlyphGryph posted:Is a very interesting question, IMO! can the GOP enforce the laws without state co-operation? is this something that they'll want to burn their political capital on, given marijuana's progress even in a GOP wave election? we'll see!
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They certainly can. Who knows if they will.
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Pretty sure Donald Trump doesn't give a poo poo. Of course if he appoints an rear end in a top hat like Christie Attorney General and he wants to look tough on crime it might not matter.
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Nope. It'll be gone before the end of the first 100 days.
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Squalid posted:Pretty sure Donald Trump doesn't give a poo poo. Of course if he appoints an rear end in a top hat like Christie Attorney General and he wants to look tough on crime it might not matter. Party of States Rights. . . ? As of 0200 Central CA, MA, NV are locked for legal, AR, FL, and ND all got medical. Awaiting results on legal for ME and AZ, the latter looking poor.
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GonadTheBallbarian posted:Nope. It'll be gone before the end of the first 100 days. I'm not completely hopeless. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/10/29/trump-wants-marijuana-legalization-decided-at-the-state-level/
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i dont see him loving with ganj but also im not going to be investing in the market any time soon definite sobering moment
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CA legalized it boyyyyyzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Gobbeldygook posted:I'm not completely hopeless. Do yourself a favor and never believe a word of of that guy's mouth. Just think of what the Republican party with an authoritarian bent would do without any checks whatsoever. That's what's about to happen.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Mandatory weed in 4 years? more like mandatory  for the next 4 yearsDmitri-9 posted:Boston Globe called it yes for MA a ray of sunshine on a cloudy day  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knEpzZfzFJs  
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SSNeoman posted:CA legalized it boyyyyyzzzzzzzzzzzz So when does it take effect? Because I need to smoke up after seeing the election results
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Just cross your fingers and pray that Trump doesn't appoint Chris Christie as AG.
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MaxxBot posted:Just cross your fingers and pray that Trump doesn't appoint Chris Christie as AG. Frontrunner is Giuliani, which is of no improvement
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What's the timeline on all of these initiatives? It seems like the entire framework is already in place in California, so it shouldn't take much to just make it legal.
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Xandu posted:What's the timeline on all of these initiatives? It seems like the entire framework is already in place in California, so it shouldn't take much to just make it legal. Las Vegas Sun: quote:But while recreational marijuana is now legal in Nevada, the plant may not be available for legal sale until Jan. 1, 2018, as state legislators scramble to craft out the final framework for issuing licenses to dispensaries and properly regulating the industry. The Legislature is also in charge of consolidating Nevada’s recreational and medical marijuana programs under state bureaus. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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The Glumslinger posted:So when does it take effect? Because I need to smoke up after seeing the election results wikipedia posted:The Adult Use of Marijuana Act (AUMA) (Proposition 64) is a 2016 voter initiative to legalize cannabis in California. The full name of the measure is the "Control, Regulate and Tax Adult Use of Marijuana Act".[1] The initiative passed and became law on November 9, 2016. times-standard posted:Proposition 64, known as the Adult Use of Marijuana Act, would take effect immediately upon its passage, giving adults over 21 new rights to use, possess, transport and grow certain amounts of nonmedical marijuana. But retail locations for recreational marijuana will not be opening until January 2018 at the earliest, leaving a year-long gap before California residents can legally buy the product. toke up bro
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AARO posted:If medical passes in Florida do you guys expect it to be extremely easy to get a prescription like in California or will it only be given to people going through chemo or with some serious illness? What's a "debilitating condition"? Christie said he'd shut marijuana down in every state, so yeah.
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I think I'm gonna chill in this thread. The rest of C-SPAM depresses me too much atm 
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Hard to chill in this thread when legalization may have just won the battle but lost the war.
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 b-b-but states rights...
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fat bossy gerbil posted:Hard to chill in this thread when legalization may have just won the battle but lost the war. Yeah toke up while you can cause it's probably not gonna last for long.
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SSNeoman posted:toke up bro Seems unnecessary since literally all the groundwork exists in medical stores, which are quasi-legalized already.
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I'm not sure if I'm too worried about the feds and congress coming after marijuana in states that have legalized it. Loretta Lynch our current Attorney General doesn't support weed either but here we are: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/1/loretta-lynchs-stance-on-pot-may-be-problematic-fo/ As far as Trump's views it doesn't seem like he cares much about it either way: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWAADm69dV8 Can he backpedal and enforce it? Of course. As of now does it look like he will at this point? Not from anything I can find. Here's a good article on it: http://www.thecannabist.co/2016/11/09/president-trump-marijuana-industry-future/67199/ And the DoJ Cole Memo (I'd never heard of it so I'll link it): http://www.thecannabist.co/2014/02/14/cole-memo-federal-law-enforcement-guidelines-on-marijuana-enforcement/4733/
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Yeah well, it's been a convenient cudgel for decades to go after "the bad people" Why give that up if you're authoritarian? E. ME finally passed, making the vote 4/5 I guess GonadTheBallbarian has issued a correction as of 23:34 on Nov 9, 2016 |
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GonadTheBallbarian posted:Yeah well, it's been a convenient cudgel for decades to go after "the bad people" It's really tough to say, so as of now we can only go with what he has said during the campaign and earlier, and the current precedent. His silence on the issue officially (ie through his website) is interesting, as the only mention of any drugs that I can find is cutting the red tape in the FDA to get life-saving drugs approved more quickly. Other drug talk from him on the campaign trail has been about prioritizing closing pill mills and providing better care for opioid addicts, which is frankly awesome and a problem here in Nevada where he mentioned it (likely elsewhere). I'll stick with an "I don't think the new admin will come after weed" until evidence to the contrary is shown. Knyteguy has issued a correction as of 23:59 on Nov 9, 2016 |
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Modest Mouse cover band posted:It's really tough to say, so as of now we can only go with what he has said during the campaign and earlier, and the current precedent. His silence on the issue officially (ie through his website) is interesting, as the only mention of any drugs that I can find is cutting the red tape in the FDA to get life-saving drugs approved more quickly.
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Yeah I wouldn't be really worried at all if his short list for AG didn't have two of the most rabid drug warriors around on it. I don't think a typical GOP politician or Trump really want to shut down all of the weed shops at this point but Christie sure as hell does.
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Wouldn't an AG have to go through the Supreme Court to do that? There are still 4 liberal justices and at least one of the conservatives could come around on the basis of STATES RIGHTS.
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I think they realize you can't put the genie back in the bottle, guys.
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Clunk Tap It posted:Wouldn't an AG have to go through the Supreme Court to do that? There are still 4 liberal justices and at least one of the conservatives could come around on the basis of STATES RIGHTS. http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=131034
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Clunk Tap It posted:Wouldn't an AG have to go through the Supreme Court to do that? There are still 4 liberal justices and at least one of the conservatives could come around on the basis of STATES RIGHTS. quote:Gonzales v. Raich (previously Ashcroft v. Raich), 545 U.S. 1 (2005), was a decision by the US Supreme Court ruling that under the Commerce Clause of the US Constitution, Congress may criminalize the production and use of homegrown cannabis even if states approve its use for medicinal purposes.
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GonadTheBallbarian posted:E. ME finally passed, making the vote 4/5 I guess It's so close in Maine that there will probably be a recount. Edit: It's yes by about 3k or 4k votes and there are around 4k absentee ballots that haven't been counted yet. Bert Roberge has issued a correction as of 02:30 on Nov 10, 2016 |
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Hey, I'm just grasping at whatever straws I can. I wasn't exactly politically aware a decade ago and definitely not paying attention to every Supreme Court ruling. At least it specifies homegrown which means the dispensaries are safe, r-right?
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I've spoken to a few industry people in the past few days and those on the retail side are slightly shaken; those farther up in the hierarchy are excited. They do not believe that Trump/cabinet will be stupid enough to touch legality, as it'd be a huge, immediately visible Federal expenditure against something that several states have shown to ~make money~ with, and an anti-populist campaign against a victimless crime. i feel a lot better about it today Cynical answer: The cops don't need illegal weed to detain suspects any more. It was just a handy excuse.
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Clunk Tap It posted:Hey, I'm just grasping at whatever straws I can. I wasn't exactly politically aware a decade ago and definitely not paying attention to every Supreme Court ruling. At least it specifies homegrown which means the dispensaries are safe, r-right? The DEA is currently not allowed to pursue medical marijuana cases (and it's interpreted as protecting recreational states because you can't crack down on recreational without also hitting medical use), but that could change very fast under a Trump/Pence presidency. It won't necessarily change but it could.
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