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clawed monet
Apr 4, 2012

Deceitful Penguin posted:

is that 8600 per or total, ahaha

Fine dining can be dreadful that way here; it's something where I'm now woefully out of date, as now I just look at the prices and can't justify it. At least, when I'm just buying for one. :(

I did take the ex to the Tapas Bar and I found them pretty good, so I can recc them in good conscience; don't remember how "Icelandic" their options were though.

If you'd asked ahead of time, I'd have said go for the crazy option and try Dill, aha, but uhh, you probs wouldn't get a reservation in time. It's also mad expensive but it really is crazy good and they rep has only improved since I went there. Lookin' at the prices now tho, it's gotten insane. Sigh.

edit
also did u bring the licker also sorry for spelling, if bad lol

Haha sorry I should have been more clear - per person. And ah okay! I'll check trip advisor for more reviews and stuff for other places. I think Tapas bar has a puffin on one of their tasting menus so that could be the winner!

Lol just looked at Dill.. looks amazing but so spendy!

And yes haha we brought our own liquor from home... it is so expensive here. We went to a hostel where some friends are and it was like 1750 kr for a beer :0

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Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

Booze is expensive yeah. Cafe Petite in Keflavik is probably the cheapest beer place in town but they close at 11. Then we usually move to Paddy's but the night stuff in Kef is pretty bad overall, or I'm just getting old.

I usually just go for a case of beer at the booze shop. It's still pricey but the best bang for your buck.

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Ölsmiðjan has beers for like 600 ISK.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Tias posted:

My icelandophilic girlfriend wants me to try havkatl and other disgusting poo poo while we're there, but I'm not really feeling it. If dining out is expensive, I'm definitely going to go for something that isn't too fermented :gonk:
You're in luck! You can go to the Kolaport fleamarket and just get a box on the cheap! (Note market only open on the weekends~)

All the fermented shark you can handle! Who knows, you might like it.

Demiurge4 posted:

Booze is expensive yeah. Cafe Petite in Keflavik is probably the cheapest beer place in town but they close at 11. Then we usually move to Paddy's but the night stuff in Kef is pretty bad overall, or I'm just getting old.

I usually just go for a case of beer at the booze shop. It's still pricey but the best bang for your buck.
How have you not made friends with someone at the airport to get them to get you cheaper airport booze.

I know people that hold a party every time they come back from abroad with the licker they smuggled and the one they got at the duty free.

clawed monet
Apr 4, 2012
We ended up going to Islenski barinn for a lunch to try all of the unique food around here. We got a reindeer meatball hotdog, puffin, whale, and icelandic pancakes. All of it was really good - the puffin and whale did not taste like I expected them to. Now I think we are planning to go somewhere for dinner and get some lamb and then go northern lights hunting! This will be a great way to end the trip :D

Tias
May 25, 2008

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Deceitful Penguin posted:

You're in luck! You can go to the Kolaport fleamarket and just get a box on the cheap! (Note market only open on the weekends~)

All the fermented shark you can handle! Who knows, you might like it.
How have you not made friends with someone at the airport to get them to get you cheaper airport booze.

I know people that hold a party every time they come back from abroad with the licker they smuggled and the one they got at the duty free.

Cool, I'll start up there. Where's Kolaport market?

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

clawed monet posted:

We ended up going to Islenski barinn for a lunch to try all of the unique food around here. We got a reindeer meatball hotdog, puffin, whale, and icelandic pancakes. All of it was really good - the puffin and whale did not taste like I expected them to. Now I think we are planning to go somewhere for dinner and get some lamb and then go northern lights hunting! This will be a great way to end the trip :D
Hah! If I wasn't ill I coulda given you a message about where to go or have you follow my bus lol. As is, the forecast is pretty good so head either towards Keflavík then get off the road a fair bit and wait or you can go towards Esjan; there's a slight chance you'd be blocked by the mountain but it's an easier place to find than the stops in Hvalfjörður.

Good to hear you had a grand time! If you want to meet up for a last lunch or have any leftover booze, keep me in mind~

Tias posted:

Cool, I'll start up there. Where's Kolaport market?
Here ya go. I prefer using já, the Icelandic one but google maps plays better on mobile phones.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
So apparently the pirate party is going to do really well during the next elections. From taking a glance at them, they seem like a New Age Left Wing party of sort.

What's the run down with this group? Are they any good?

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
New age? What?

They're a nerd-libertarian party; they care about the internet, transparency and the constitution. The rest of their issues are severely underdeveloped and basically decided by their forums and their individual senators; the people they got in were mostly left-wingers though and Birgitta, their not-leader (because they ~dont have leaders maaaaan~) is fairly left wing, while their other two congress people are married into the Socialist Alliance and so are left-of centre via political alliances. (this last bit might be a slight comic exaggeration)

(I could go into some of their peeps and why I think they're fuckwits but then we're getting into personally identifying things and I prefer not doing that on the forums.)

Like most Icelanders, they're in favour of stronger education, healthcare and all that good poo poo; the right-wing part of their party, which was in danger of taking over, was pretty thoroughly kicked out after one of them started whining about ~statism~ and made an idiot of herself; this lead to an exodus of their ilk. I know some of the people that left are now associated with Viðreisn, which is a supposedly liberal/libertarian party but honestly, if they get people in after this election I'll maybe pay attention to them.

The PIrates have been in government in Reykjavík in coalition with the greens and Socialist Alliance, (and I guess the non-Socialist Alliance but lol) they've been good enough there though they've mostly been taking their cues from the real left wing parties on what to do and how to handle things.

Whether they'll be good or not isn't certain. They have some pretty dumb people high up but smart folks as well. What they mostly have though is inexperienced people, so it will be interesting to see how they'll deal with the entrenched bureaucracy and poo poo which was a huge struggle for the last left wing government

Oh and, maybe, they might not win well enough for a left wing government to form. Lotsa Icelanders aren't terribly clever tbh and prefer the right wing parties, come hell or high water. We'll see how it goes.

Tias
May 25, 2008

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Pirate Party seems to suffer the same problems as its sister groups worldwide: Periodical influx of members from the alt-right, anti-vaxxers, forever alones/MRA and other basement dwellers.

Fortunately many parties have purged them again, deciding to focus on the single issues of internet freedom and anti-surveillance.

clawed monet
Apr 4, 2012

Deceitful Penguin posted:

Hah! If I wasn't ill I coulda given you a message about where to go or have you follow my bus lol. As is, the forecast is pretty good so head either towards Keflavík then get off the road a fair bit and wait or you can go towards Esjan; there's a slight chance you'd be blocked by the mountain but it's an easier place to find than the stops in Hvalfjörður.

Good to hear you had a grand time! If you want to meet up for a last lunch or have any leftover booze, keep me in mind~

I ended up going south near the blue lagoon and could see the lights pretty well, but actually ended up seeing them better right off the freeway about 10 km outside of Reykjavik on the drive back! Was not expecting that!
And haha sorry, we were at the blue lagoon all day and had no left over liquor :p - speaking of which, I ate at the Lava restaurant again and the Arctic char appetizer was amazing and the lamb main course left a bit to be desired. Still very good though.

All in all it was amazing and I love Iceland and can't wait to come back! Maybe during the summer months since I've been twice in October... next time I will for sure eat at the grill market / fish market. And lots more hot dogs

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
How is the left wing in Iceland anyway? IIRC they gained a lot of strength after the recession?

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

punk rebel ecks posted:

How is the left wing in Iceland anyway? IIRC they gained a lot of strength after the recession?

The socialist Vinstri Grænir(Left-Greens) and social democratic Samfylkingin (Alliance) gained a lot of strength were in government together from 2009 to 2013. Support for both parties dwindled a lot in the 2013 elections and the current right-wing government of the Progressive Party and the Independence Party took over. However after a string of scandals, most notably the Panama Papers, about 20 thousand people gathered in front of parliament and demanded a early election. The Progressive Party didn't want to but the Independence Party is good enough at PR to know that refusing to protesters would be bad for their image and also always gets at least 20% in all elections so they didn't have anything to lose.

Katrín Jakobsdóttir, the leader of the Left-Greens is the most trusted politician in the country according to basically every survey and is strangely more popular than her own party which is expected to be the third largest party after the Pirates and the ruling Independence Party.

The Social-Democrats on the other hands have basically collapsed. They went from almost always being the second largest party to being expected to get as little as 6% of the vote. Part of this is because of some internal leadership stuff and also a lot of the right-leaning voters seem to have defected to the newly founded Viðreisn (Restoration) and the leftists presumably to the Left-Greens.


A basic rundown of the parties:

Alþýðufylkingin (People's Front)
"Full Communism Now."

Björt Framtíð (Bright Future)
"Sustainable transparency!"

Framsóknarflokkurinn (Progressive Party)
"gently caress you, got mine (in an offshore account)"
alternatively
"Never trust no foraners. No Mohammedian musk should be built in Iceland!!"

Samfylkingin (Alliance)
"Moderate Social Democracy Whenever it's Convenient."

Sjálfstæðisflokkurinn (Independance Party)
"Privatize everything!"

Viðreisn (Restoration)
"Privatize everything and also join the EU!"

Píratar (Pirates)
Cyber-socialism.

Vinstrihreyfingin Grænt Framboð (Left-Greens)
"Nationalize most things!"

Íslenska Þjóðfylkingin (Icelandic National Front)
"We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children"


There is also:
Dögun (Dawn), Húmanistaflokkurinn (The Humanist Party), and Flokkur Fólksins (People's Party) but they don't matter. The People's Front is about as tiny as them but at least has the decency to be interesting.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
As an American I am VERY jealous of your political parties.

How is the nationalization process going?

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

clawed monet posted:

I ended up going south near the blue lagoon and could see the lights pretty well, but actually ended up seeing them better right off the freeway about 10 km outside of Reykjavik on the drive back! Was not expecting that!
And haha sorry, we were at the blue lagoon all day and had no left over liquor :p - speaking of which, I ate at the Lava restaurant again and the Arctic char appetizer was amazing and the lamb main course left a bit to be desired. Still very good though.

All in all it was amazing and I love Iceland and can't wait to come back! Maybe during the summer months since I've been twice in October... next time I will for sure eat at the grill market / fish market. And lots more hot dogs
you remain unforgiven




no joke good to hear you had a grand time yo. If you're trying for the summer I'd recommend bookin way in advance; things get hella hectic here during those months

punk rebel ecks posted:

As an American I am VERY jealous of your political parties.

How is the nationalization process going?
Poorly. On the other hand, the privatization of public utilities, particularly to the friends and family of members of the Independence party has been going stellar for decades now!

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Hey when the leftist coalition comes into power after the next election they'll probably be able to spend 4 years making what changes they can with a lot of resistance from numerous elements of both the private and public sector then have all the good they actually managed to do cancelled when the next right-wing government takes over. Like last time.

Tias
May 25, 2008

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FreudianSlippers posted:

Hey when the leftist coalition comes into power after the next election they'll probably be able to spend 4 years making what changes they can with a lot of resistance from numerous elements of both the private and public sector then have all the good they actually managed to do cancelled when the next right-wing government takes over. Like last time.

and like every wishy-liberal Scandi government in the last 10 years :(

At least they'll make some leftist policies, the Danish social democracy has gone full FYGM neo-con.

Boksi
Jan 11, 2016
If there is one thing I will never understand about Iceland, it is the voters of the Independence Party.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Sometimes I wonder if humanity hasn't had a good enough run and we should just end it all on a relatively high note

The Liberals, are now kingmakers, and gods only know if they will stick to form and go with the conservatives or for some baffling reason, go with the left ahahaha

Either way, this night has been awful in every sense of the word






ediot: to be clear, there's the "center" right Viðreisn, that can go with the D+B old guard to run the country further into the ground and gently caress poo poo up or if the left wing parties combine with the liberal "center" left and right they can form a, i gently caress you not, five party government

Deceitful Penguin fucked around with this message at 10:50 on Oct 30, 2016

dor1
Jun 5, 2011
I just keep being amazed how many people vote D, and i really really hope it wont be a B+C+D gov't.

I could deal with a C+D+V gov't.

Basscop
Jun 4, 2010

Lightnin? HA! Thats a good 'un!
Now why dontcha
come o'er here and
GET

IN

MY

BELLY!!!
I love this country! :iceland:

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

dor1 posted:

I just keep being amazed how many people vote D, and i really really hope it wont be a B+C+D gov't.

I could deal with a C+D+V gov't.
The Greens will never go with the conservatives. That's what killed Samfó and almost everyone there knows it, because they directly benefited from the huge swathes of left wing people that left them to go to the greens.

BCD looks to be fairly likely. The only thing stopping it would be the principles of a loving "centre"-right party, which is so tragicomic that relying on that would by like flapping your arms to slow down a fall from top of a skyscraper

The Five party of "anyone but the old guard" would be a complete first and hugely reliant on the "center", which is not likely to happen because, guess what, so called "centrists" are just right-wingers that don't want to admit it. It would involve a shitload of compromise and it would have the right-wing constantly trying to bring it down.

gently caress this stupid loving country

Basscop posted:

I love this country! :iceland:
This is like a toxic loving relationship, no matter how much we love it and try to make it work it refuses to loving change and always goes back to its abusive ex

If this country was a relationship, E/N would tell us to sever

dor1
Jun 5, 2011

Deceitful Penguin posted:

BCD looks to be fairly likely. The only thing stopping it would be the principles of a loving "centre"-right party, which is so tragicomic that relying on that would by like flapping your arms to slow down a fall from top of a skyscraper

IIRC whatshisface who runs Viðreisn has said that won't happen.

And I saw today that VG won't work with D.

And we have what, 2 weeks until the budget plan is due? Helvítis sjallar maður

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
I'll leave this here.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

dor1 posted:

IIRC whatshisface who runs Viðreisn has said that won't happen.

And I saw today that VG won't work with D.

And we have what, 2 weeks until the budget plan is due? Helvítis sjallar maður
I was just reading that actually

I'm not sure what to call this faint emotion in my breast; I'm sure its just that gin and grape going down badly
Ahaha, I remember that. In fact we were pretty enthused on the left here to give Snowden asylum too.

Man, can you imagine how different that all woulda been if he hadn't gone to the russians? Unfortunately, our right is made up of cowardly appeasers, so nyeh.


also nice to be reminded of Siggi the hacker, paedophile traitor activist

Boksi
Jan 11, 2016
Now that the election is over they just gave themselves a massive pay raise. Just another proof that when the Indepence MPs say "economic stability" they really mean "more money for us and our buddies".

I can only pray this will help push C away from D.

Werewhale
Aug 10, 2013
I really ought to respect other people's opinions, but after thinking about it for a bit, I've decided that 40% of Icelanders are plain wrong.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Why the gently caress should you respect an opinion that is objectively terrible and poo poo?

Iceland has always had a very strong slave mentality going on; this is just another example. We're the most American European country after all~

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

How are these right wing votes distributed? Every person I've talked to outside of Reykjavik hates them. Heck I've even met a bunch of people who think iceland would be better off back under Denmark.

Tias
May 25, 2008

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Demiurge4 posted:

How are these right wing votes distributed?

Cave trolls

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Demiurge4 posted:

How are these right wing votes distributed? Every person I've talked to outside of Reykjavik hates them. Heck I've even met a bunch of people who think iceland would be better off back under Denmark.
The right wing people live in bubbles; they're in Garðabær, in Seltjarnanes, form their own cliques and you'd find them in the old peoples homes deffo.

The same is true to some degree with left wing people; I know a buncha people from 101 that don't seem to get how regressive and backwards many of our countrymen are.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
So yes, to quote:

quote:

As for everyone else, the bad news for you non-EEA folks is that there are only three ways for you to secure a residence permit in Iceland.

Be married to an Icelander. This is pretty straightforward.
Attend a university. If you are accepted into a university in Iceland, you will likely be granted a residence permit and possibly a limited work permit. However, you will have to prove that you have enough money to support yourself while in Iceland.
Secure a work permit for a job. This sounds good, but it’s not so easy. It has to be for a specialized, desirable work skill like computer programming. A prospective employer has to show that you are needed for the job, one that they can’t find an Icelander or EEA citizen to fill. So if you’re looking for a job as a restaurant worker, journalist, wedding planner, teacher, or just about anything else, you’re basically out of luck. There’s a very short list of potential jobs for you. Also, you will have to have a signed work contract before you move to secure the permit. You cannot move to Iceland and look for work like EEA citizens can. I’m sorry to be a buzz kill, but it’s very, very difficult to obtain this kind of permit. For more information, check out the Directorate of Immigration website at utl.is.

http://www.iheartreykjavik.net/2015/02/all-you-need-to-know-about-moving-to-iceland-a-guest-post-by-jenna-gottlieb/

Getting places to stay can be tough but I know some people and I could help out, have done so before and can do it again. It's not the best help but yeah.

I'd also like to add since I'm in the honest thread, that I'm so sorry for everyone. I really am.

Deceitful Penguin fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Nov 9, 2016

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Deceitful Penguin posted:

So yes, to quote:


http://www.iheartreykjavik.net/2015/02/all-you-need-to-know-about-moving-to-iceland-a-guest-post-by-jenna-gottlieb/

Getting places to stay can be tough but I know some people and I could help out, have done so before and can do it again. It's not the best help but yeah.

I'd also like to add since I'm in the honest thread, that I'm so sorry for everyone. I really am.

How's things if you qualify as highly skilled? I'm thinking specifically computer programming. :science:

dor1
Jun 5, 2011

Fuckin Trump Riot posted:

How's things if you qualify as highly skilled? I'm thinking specifically computer programming. :science:

IIRC you need to get a job before you move

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Fuckin Trump Riot posted:

How's things if you qualify as highly skilled? I'm thinking specifically computer programming. :science:
Yeah, like dor1 says, you'd need a job, but once you link them your LPs I'm sure that they'd hire you instantly.

But yes, highly skilled includes programmers and the tech industry here has been growing at a steady rate. In fact one goon already went over to CCP that I know of, there might be more.

kanonvandekempen
Mar 14, 2009
I spent half of September driving around Iceland, it was pretty impressive. Will definitely be posting questions once i catch up with this thread.

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Deceitful Penguin posted:

Yeah, like dor1 says, you'd need a job, but once you link them your LPs I'm sure that they'd hire you instantly.

"Based on LP curse, applicant's work visa is denied for safety of people and government."

Deceitful Penguin posted:

But yes, highly skilled includes programmers and the tech industry here has been growing at a steady rate. In fact one goon already went over to CCP that I know of, there might be more.

Interesting. And yeah, I expect I need a job before any sort of residency permit is granted. That's pretty standard for expats.

Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth
Friend of mine wants to know how to pronounce Raðljóst


Tia

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Sludge Tank posted:

Friend of mine wants to know how to pronounce Raðljóst


Tia
Raðljóst is pronounced "Raðljóst" of course. :v:

(Rath-lyo-st) is approximate for an English speaker, though different accents might skew it further

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Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth
Thankyou buddy

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