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chumbler posted:It turns out a lot of self professed progressives actually have zero progressive values. The implementation of progressive economic policies would require an armed revolution, both political parties support liberal economics and that is not changing.
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Rated PG-34 posted:Yup, all those millions that Jill Stein put into attack ads against Hillary cost Hillary the election. To be fair the margin was so narrow that literally any negative influence technically cost her the election. Then again I'm not sure Jill Stein was even that relevant.
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chumbler posted:It turns out a lot of self professed progressives actually have zero progressive values. Agreed; I'm seeing a shocking number of posters arguing that people should start arming themselves. It's an insane idea when the right says it and it's just as bad when we say it.
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This is the one interesting wrinkle about all this. He's just so easily convinced to change course by an audience, by a charismatic person, etc. Part of what makes him so unpredictable, potentially for good and for bad.
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https://twitter.com/ABC/status/796513222388043777 Oh loving christ no.
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I was about to type out a question wondering if saying things like that would hurt him with the anti-Obama types in his base but who the gently caress am I kidding.
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steinrokkan posted:Yes, but liberals itt are afraid that giving people a positive incentive not to act as bigots would somehow made them compromise their values?
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Well, finally happened today. I live in a not-very white area on the south side of Chicago, and on walking into school today had a group scream at me and follow me to the front doors before throwing a can of pop at my head as I walked in. Never heard the term "Cauchead" before, so that's new. I voted for Hillary too 
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So Trump is back to his primary hobby, schmoozing with celebrities. Is this the final confirmation that this is the Ryan - Pence presidency?
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pocket pool posted:I was about to type out a question wondering if saying things like that would hurt him with the anti-Obama types in his base but who the gently caress am I kidding. There were people calling in to lovely talk radio stations enraged at the possibility that he wouldn't actually lock Hillary up like he promised he would, so this probably hurts a tiny bit of his support at least.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/ABC/status/796513222388043777 Helloooooooo Attorney General John Ashcroft.
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Squashing Machine posted:Agreed; I'm seeing a shocking number of posters arguing that people should start arming themselves. It's an insane idea when the right says it and it's just as bad when we say it. Except one group has a long and storied history of wanton violence against people with zero provocation.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/ABC/status/796513222388043777 Aaaahahaha we get what we deserve.
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Bad Decision Dino posted:If weak rear end talking points like "We're going to bring back all of the jobs." is enough of an incentive to make half the country throw out common decency and vote for orange clown Hitler, I can understand why minorities in this thread feel like they are not being valued by their fellow Americans. That's fair enough. I mean, I can only imagine what it is like to know that the promises for which my priorities were exchanged are completely vapid.
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Deified Data posted:Reread - I don't think racists should be catered to in any way, shape, or form. Those make up the majority of the "disposables" in that scenario. I don't think the Dems would lose any significant amount of people for promising a positive economic future for the working class. Racists wouldn't bite but I said we don't need them. This is the problem of Lessail's version of purity politics though. Saying "we needed to offer the white voters who went with Obama in the previous elections an incentive to come out for Hillary" is not the same as saying "we need to make nice with racists." But, in his mind, these people are racists all the way down and any attempt to court them is tantamount to throwing PoC under the bus. It's nonsense, and it's useless for building a strategy to win future elections.
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The Shortest Path posted:To be fair the margin was so narrow that literally any negative influence technically cost her the election. I posted some bad things about hillary on the internets. It's my fault Trump got elected, welp.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/ABC/status/796513222388043777 Was it wishful thinking but isn't he looking at possible jail time for the poo poo he's pulled?
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Sharkopath posted:It's a ref to the idea that keeps popping up in these post elections threads that the election was lost because the DNC platform was entirely identity politics and that obviously alienated all white people so the lesson we should learn is to abandon them all together and focus mainly on issues that effect the rural and rust belt. a lot of people in D&D don't have the faintest clue why Democrats abandoned economic populism in the first place and think laid-off HVAC workers in Pennsylvania are primarily motivated by what black people in New York are getting up to so while yeah I'm not surprised that they could somehow land on the idea that economic populism and gay marriage are somehow mutually exclusive concepts it's gonna take a much longer and more fundamental education than just pointing out that that's a stupid thing to believe
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Obama needs to convince Trump that these kinds of cabinet members would all be bombastic people who would be hangers on and try to siphon away credit from him and elevate themselves at Trump's expense. If Trump wants a legacy he needs to hire quiet, experienced, competent people who will just do the work and not have their own agendas.
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Rated PG-34 posted:I posted some bad things about hillary on the internets. It's my fault Trump got elected, welp. It's okay friend, you can rest assured that SA posters are even less relevant than Stein. And isn't that a goddamn sobering thought!
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/ABC/status/796513222388043777 Wow.
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negromancer posted:Except one group has a long and storied history of wanton violence against people with zero provocation. Surely, more guns will save us. The future I want is where I get into several armed standoffs on my way to, at, and from the Trader Joes
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quote:Kris Kobach, the secretary of state of Kansas and a leading architect of draconian anti-immigrant and voter suppression laws around the nation, will reportedly be serving on Donald Trump’s presidential transition team as an immigration adviser. http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/kris-kobach-architect-of-draconian-anti-immigrant-policies-joining-trumps-transition-team/ Things are looking bad for illegal immigrants. It wouldn't surprise me if we see waves of them going back to across the border on their own now.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/ABC/status/796513222388043777 Trump does this, and the USA becomes like California in twenty years with the real politics being between two factions of the democratic party.
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Radish posted:Sorry Obama but your new full time job is to hang out with Trump and make sure he doesn't push the button. 
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Not that I support their abuse but it's going to be funny to see all the American industries that basically only survive on their labor start to fail when no one else will do the work.
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Squashing Machine posted:This is the problem of Lessail's version of purity politics though. Saying "we needed to offer the white voters who went with Obama in the previous elections an incentive to come out for Hillary" is not the same as saying "we need to make nice with racists." But, in his mind, these people are racists all the way down and any attempt to court them is tantamount to throwing PoC under the bus. It's nonsense, and it's useless for building a strategy to win future elections. No there needs to be continual and intense push back against the idea so that the party can't easily decide to slip up
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Doctor Butts posted:Was it wishful thinking but isn't he looking at possible jail time for the poo poo he's pulled? Under a Trump DOJ?
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Squashing Machine posted:Surely, more guns will save us. The future I want is where I get into several armed standoffs on my way to, at, and from the Trader Joes 2020_democratic_policy_platform.png 
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/ABC/status/796513222388043777 Wow, I was hoping he would just go away after his loss and contempt of court charge. Trump will probably pardon him day one.
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Sorry for posting a reddit link, but oh my god what have you unleashed https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5c8gsw/make_europe_great_again_check_out_our_sister/
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steinrokkan posted:That's fair enough. I mean, I can only imagine what it is like to know that the promises for which my priorities were exchanged are completely vapid. it's deffo very exhausitng.
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VH4Ever posted:This is the one interesting wrinkle about all this. He's just so easily convinced to change course by an audience, by a charismatic person, etc. Part of what makes him so unpredictable, potentially for good and for bad. yeah, the one good thing about Trump in comparison to a boilerplate Republican is that he gives zero shits about what the party wants and is super easy to manipulate on a personal level
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So a potential Trump cabinet is literally probably gonna be State: Newt "wants to Invade Russia" Gingrich AG: Rudy "they're just allegations" Giuliani DHS: Sheriff Joe "Mexicans are target practice" Arpaio Education: (THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK) Interior: Sarah Palin Agriculture: Former Georgia Governor Sonny "led a group prayer outside the State Capitol for rain during a drought" Perdue Defense: Mike Flynn Commerce: The CEO of Lucas Oil Treasury: A Goldman Sachs CEO lol
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Squashing Machine posted:Surely, more guns will save us. The future I want is where I get into several armed standoffs on my way to, at, and from the Trader Joes Ha, jokes on you, they will all happen in Cracker Barrel.
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Should we blame the 'influence' of third parties or the lack of influence of a billion dollar DNC machine?
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