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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:Just like Farrage with Brexit. Amazing And his supporters will claim they knew this all along and don't care.
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Maybe if all these potential cabinet members keep countermanding Trump's orders he'll kick them to the curb. They're basically all literally saying "we're not going to do what Trump said" and he hates being called a puppet.
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Nov 10, 2016 22:23
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Luigi Thirty posted:Rinse Priapus says on CNN that the Republicans have a mandate to not compromise in any way to enact their full agenda, just like the Dems in 08. It's gonna be a long 4 years. This isn't new, every election the last few decades, Republicans always claim to have a mandate if they win, and claim that the Dems do not have one if they lose.
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he didn't even want to deal with any policy, why would he do that? This was a popularity contest and a business move to get eyes on him even if he lost - and he somehow won.
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Nov 10, 2016 22:25
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He will build a wall.so he has something to take pictures of . Like 100 percent sure he will build a wall.
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greatn posted:Maybe if all these potential cabinet members keep countermanding Trump's orders he'll kick them to the curb. They're basically all literally saying "we're not going to do what Trump said" and he hates being called a puppet. Pretty sure Trump is ok with promising something then not doing it.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:How are you not banned? Weren't you part of the USPol crew that repeatedly posted POST YOUR MAP POST MAP TOXX OR SHUT THE gently caress UP to anyone that upset you? Now you're talking about being graceful? Sure you were "devastated"  You've come in here over the past year or so to talk poo poo to the D&D hivemind and post "WHOA GOVERNMENT BAD!" articles, forgive me if I doubt your progressive cred.
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Radish posted:Nah sorry but it's somewhere in the election night thread. much appreciated McAlister posted:Well my perma ban will kick in soon so I just want to say gently caress Bernie Sanders on my way out.
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:Just like Farrage with Brexit. Amazing hmm. so basicaly our best opition is that he ends up being an eisenhower and our second best is him being a harding. it makes me wonder how hard right he will go, sure alot the campaign stuff was probably con man bullshit. but the bigotry/cabinate shortlist/ sucking russia dick, scares me still.
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Hollismason posted:He will build a wall.so he has something to take pictures of . Like 100 percent sure he will build a wall. This is true and also it will make a bunch of border states think he wasn't loving around at creating jobs, because that's a big-rear end project. Once the wall is built, all those jobs will evaporate instantly, because we already have a border patrol.
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Trabisnikof posted:Pretty sure Trump is ok with promising something then not doing it. He's not ok with OTHER people not doing it though.
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Crowsbeak posted:Yes because we had a low turnout election where HRC had more votes then Trump we actually are a nation of racism. This country has never not been a country of racism. Who What Now posted:Passive silence condones and emboldens racism. So yes, we unquestionable and unarguably are.
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greatn posted:Maybe if all these potential cabinet members keep countermanding Trump's orders he'll kick them to the curb. They're basically all literally saying "we're not going to do what Trump said" and he hates being called a puppet. My guess is that it all depends on how much Trump personally cares about a policy/how he thinks it looks to the electorate.
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Isn't the President directly in control of the borders so he could just be like Border closed with Mexico no flights to Mexico. He is going to build some sort of wall somewhere just for optics.
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Alec Bald Snatch posted:much appreciated  Meanwhile the New Left is getting ready to lead the DNC and the Clintons and all their centrist buddies are done.
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Unzip and Attack posted:Care to elaborate? 50 million people voted for Trump, and I think it's safe to say that many of them are racist, sexist, bigoted, uneducated, or some combination of the four. Media coverage of the election was a loving joke that gave Trump an unbelievable amount of free airtime and covered for the fact that he was a totally unqualified candidate with a bunch of horserace false equivalency bullshit. Russia directly interfered in this election. The Director of the FBI interfered in this election. Trump won for all those reasons. None of those are things that could have been changed. Trump voters are not going to vote for a Democrat. The media is part of late stage capitalism and is more beholden to profit than to accurate, truthful reporting. Russia, Comey, same. At least six million Democratic voters sat this one out. That's something that the Democratic candidate and the Democratic Party absolutely could have changed. They needed less than two hundred thousand of those voters to come out and vote, and they failed to get them at all.
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deadly_pudding posted:That is a deep-rear end cut in this fast-moving thread. Obviously there will still be trade. If Trump actually gets his wishes regarding tariffs and stuff, though, it will have an affect on, for example, China, whose economy is more or less based on exporting all of the consumerist bullshit we love to the US. There's gonna be a ripple effect. Fun fact, if you raise tariffs high enough, those manufacturing jobs come back to the US, because it is economically viable to do so. Or you can raise minimum wage across the board so the lower class can still afford chinese made goods. It's a win-win for the working class, and a big middle finger for the owners of outsourced businesses (ie, greedy billionaire scum) and Walmart.
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Doctor Butts posted:My guess is that it all depends on how much Trump personally cares about a policy/how he thinks it looks to the electorate. I think the proper person with the right access *cough*Obama*cough* could use his paranoia and try to convince him these people are trying to play him and empower themselves at his expense.
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I hope Trump builds the wall. It'll be an economic stimulus to the area, keep him busy and distracted from doing things like threatening foreign leaders and persecuting Muslims. It will make no material difference to anything.
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Talmonis posted:Perhaps then they might, I dont' know, stop trying to pass laws to harm minorities of all kinds? Just maybe? I mean, I know it's just crushing to be called out for the poo poo you do and/or enable, while calling out "thugs" in the "ghetto" or complaining about all these disrespectful protests, but perhaps not being a godawful group of opression enabling slime for once in the long lives of the surburban white men would prevent them being called that dreadful "R"word. Good point, you should go say this to a Republican moderate and see if it changes their mind
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FateFree posted:I know that trump and his EPA pick are climate change deniers because of their own ignorance, but what will happen when they are sat down by our military advisers and explained without doubt that it's a real issue? Military advisors can be replaced.
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BarbarianElephant posted:The sane right generally believe in climate change, but either do not believe it is man-made, or believe that it is impossible to fix. Well, obviously. It's just they're going to be in for a bit of a shock when the Navy tells them they need $Texas to rebuild everything around Norfolk.
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WampaLord posted:Sure you were "devastated" Do you want me to post a picture of me crying on election night? Are you seriously trying to burn a person over 'progressive cred'? Again, where was your faith in your vote if you couldn't even toxx yourself?
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BarbarianElephant posted:I hope Trump builds the wall. It'll be an economic stimulus to the area, keep him busy and distracted from doing things like threatening foreign leaders and persecuting Muslims. It will make no material difference to anything. A bunch of jobs are created to build the wall, then the political winds change and a bunch of jobs are created to tear it down. Somewhere, Keynes laughs.
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Hollismason posted:Isn't the President directly in control of the borders so he could just be like Border closed with Mexico no flights to Mexico. He'll just resume construction on the wall Bush started building in 2006, which Republicans defunded a year or two later when they realized it was expensive and figured they'd scored their points already just by starting the wall.
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Tatsuta Age posted:Military advisors can be replaced. Says someone with likely no real idea how this works.
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greatn posted:I think the proper person with the right access *cough*Obama*cough* could use his paranoia and try to convince him these people are trying to play him and empower themselves at his expense. I guess. I mean I don't want regressive bullshit rubberstamped as much as the next person, but is stoking the paranoia of a dude we've characterized as not being even-tempered enough to resist nuking the planet a good idea?
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BarbarianElephant posted:I hope Trump builds the wall. It'll be an economic stimulus to the area, keep him busy and distracted from doing things like threatening foreign leaders and persecuting Muslims. It will make no material difference to anything. Large walls are bad for the environment, but the environment's hosed anyway so who cares.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Do you want me to post a picture of me crying on election night? Are you seriously trying to burn a person over 'progressive cred'? LOL "faith in my vote." Toxxing is idiotic, I don't see the point in making a bet where I can't win anything. And now I'm around to annoy the deplorables who have taken over D&D, so that's neat.
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idiotsavant posted:50 million people voted for Trump, and I think it's safe to say that many of them are racist, sexist, bigoted, uneducated, or some combination of the four. Media coverage of the election was a loving joke that gave Trump an unbelievable amount of free airtime and covered for the fact that he was a totally unqualified candidate with a bunch of horserace false equivalency bullshit. Russia directly interfered in this election. The Director of the FBI interfered in this election. Trump won for all those reasons. If those 6 million people could not summon up the energy to prevent a backslide on nearly all social progress in at least a decade, there's nothing the party or candidate could have done. This is on the fake progressives who sat it out. Don't try to pretend it's not. chumbler fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Nov 10, 2016 |
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Hey for all the asshats thinking minorities have nothing to fear from Trump and his followers! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/day-1-trumps-america_us_582497afe4b0cdd5e7e99e86?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000013§ion=politics
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Do you want me to post a picture of me crying on election night? Are you seriously trying to burn a person over 'progressive cred'? Post it
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BarbarianElephant posted:I hope Trump builds the wall. It'll be an economic stimulus to the area, keep him busy and distracted from doing things like threatening foreign leaders and persecuting Muslims. It will make no material difference to anything. aside from allocating resources to a meaningless ineffective boondoggle that would be better spent elsewhere, but enough about America's military
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Large walls are bad for the environment, but the environment's hosed anyway so who cares. Also the wall routinely crosses private land. Including putting US citizens' homes on the Mexican side and they tried to split a college campus in two.
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BarbarianElephant posted:I hope Trump builds the wall. It'll be an economic stimulus to the area, keep him busy and distracted from doing things like threatening foreign leaders and persecuting Muslims. It will make no material difference to anything. Making something with no use is not an economic boost. They might as well just receive a government check, or be paid to sit in an empty room, looking at a blank wall.
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This website says $40 billion to build the wall https://www.technologyreview.com/s/602494/bad-math-props-up-trumps-border-wall/?utm_campaign=add_this&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=post Sounds a lots, but he'd just add it to the debt. No problem.
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BarbarianElephant posted:This website says $40 billion to build the wall He could seize all remittances and that'd be a little more than half
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steinrokkan posted:Making something with no use is not an economic boost. They might as well just receive a government check, or be paid to sit in an empty room, looking at a blank wall. Actually, it was a big strategy in the depression days. http://rooseveltforward.org/real-lesson-great-depression-fiscal-policy-works/ quote:This all changed under FDR. The key to evaluating Roosevelt’s performance in combating the Depression is the statistical treatment of many millions of unemployed engaged in his massive workfare programs. The government hired about 60 per cent of the unemployed in public works and conservation projects that planted a billion trees, saved the whooping crane, modernized rural America, and built such diverse projects as the Cathedral of Learning in Pittsburgh, the Montana state capitol, much of the Chicago lakefront, New York’s Lincoln Tunnel and Triborough Bridge complex, the Tennessee Valley Authority and the aircraft carriers Enterprise and Yorktown.
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BarbarianElephant posted:This website says $40 billion to build the wall Spending limits and sound fiscal budgeting are only things liberals should be concerned about.
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BarbarianElephant posted:Actually, it was a big strategy in the depression days. The difference is I still use WPA sidewalks in my community and the border wall will actually hurt border communities.
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