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straight up brolic posted:Tulsi Gabbard is someone to root for, but she's probably too young What's the age limit for president? If it's 40 I think she's just going to be eligible in 2024. Tammy Duckworth is already eligible.
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Fojar38 posted:Once it becomes apparent that this isn't literally the apocalypse we'll be back to our regular sarcastic arsehole selves. I'm glad the loss of marriage equality, reproductive rights, and / or reinstating pre-review in the Voting Rights Act are things that don't affect you. This isn't sarcastic. I'm glad for you. Facing down the loss of these human rights within the next year is very tough to many Americans.
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Nov 11, 2016 00:14
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Age of eligibility for president is 35.
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Nov 11, 2016 00:16
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Too Shy Guy posted:Trump is being ridiculously magnanimous and McConnell is signalling hard that he's not going to kill the filibuster. No filibuster means they 100% own everything that passes, or fails to pass, in Congress. With a filibuster they can still have a Dem opposition scapegoat/savior for truly insane poo poo Trump wants and they don't. See also: Trump nominating some Harriet Miers-grade  SCOTUS pick that the GOP really, really, doesn't want that they also know the Dems will line up to oppose.
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Alec Bald Snatch posted:lol no they're not Oh they certainly will, but for people who don't have that capacity for cognitive dissonance it matters. e: also part of the GWB memory hole was "I never liked Bush!" and McConnell is acting in purely self preservation mode because he doesn't want to be the forgotten GWB in this scenario
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kartikeya posted:The contention here is that maybe 'good' people that do nothing when faced with this kind of thing aren't actually terribly good people, and maybe we shouldn't let them pretend they are.
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Nov 11, 2016 00:16
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Potato Salad posted:I'm glad the loss of marriage equality, reproductive rights, and / or reinstating pre-review in the Voting Rights Act are things that don't affect you. Trump doesn't give a gently caress about those things.
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Nov 11, 2016 00:17
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Agnosticnixie posted:What's the age limit for president? If it's 40 I think she's just going to be eligible in 2024. Tammy Duckworth is already eligible.
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straight up brolic posted:Tulsi Gabbard is someone to root for, but she's probably too young I really don't see what she brings to the table wrt policy besides realizing that publicly pushing Bernie early was a winning way to expand her brand.
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Nov 11, 2016 00:17
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Agnosticnixie posted:What's the age limit for president? If it's 40 I think she's just going to be eligible in 2024. Tammy Duckworth is already eligible. Minimum age is 35.
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straight up brolic posted:35. She's eligible, people just don't elect young people Can we just put her in old people stage makeup
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Doctor Butts posted:Haha look at the time! It's Republican O'Clock so it's time we started respecting the office of the president again! O'Donnell went all in on "respect for the office" last night. Paraphrasing: "The office of the president has committed crimes. The office of the president has committed genocide against native peoples. The office of the president has held slaves. 'The office of the president' is a phrase invented by politicians to avoid responsibility for their actions. Respect must be earned, it should not be given to an office or a man that does not deserve it. The office of the president is now occupied by a racist, and he does not deserve respect simply because it's his new office." He wrote it much better than I've made it sound above. My jaw was open.
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Nov 11, 2016 00:18
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Fojar38 posted:Trump doesn't give a gently caress about those things. Yes, which is why when a bill crosses his desk with those regressions in it he won't care as he signs it because it has some other thing in it he actually wants.
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Fojar38 posted:Trump doesn't give a gently caress about those things. The RNC does. I'm going to hold you to this when the supreme court starts reversing these decisions.
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Fojar38 posted:Trump doesn't give a gently caress about those things. Good thing there was no VP on his ticket, and that he didn't say he wanted said VP to handle domestic and foreign policy. Or is my Trump decoder ring broken and that was one of the times he was lying and women and minorities don't need to worry?
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Potato Salad posted:"Another white liberal throwing coloreds under the bus. You see, they're the real racists bec-" Why did you post this?
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Nov 11, 2016 00:19
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Also WRT Ellison as DNC chair I really like it because it sends the message that the party is going to pick up some economic populism and push at Trumps demographic but islamophobia and racism are absolutely not coming along.
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Nov 11, 2016 00:19
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Potato Salad posted:The RNC does. You are fortune-telling, friend, and that is not mentally healthy. We don't know what the SCOTUS will look like, and the Dems will retain influence in the senate. The GOP still can't unilaterally roll those things back.
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Nov 11, 2016 00:20
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disjoe posted:Can we just put her in old people stage makeup We just elected Donald Trump. Things like that don't actually matter.
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Nov 11, 2016 00:21
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Or, well hey, maybe Trump will appoint at minimum a moderate to the Supreme Court. [Looks at climate change denier in EPA, Kansas Sec of State vehement anti-immigration pick] Yeah ho boy we are totally on track to preserve human rights 
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Nov 11, 2016 00:21
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So which senator looks most likely to pull an Arlen Sector and switch caucuses if Trump pushes more than he can bargain?
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Nov 11, 2016 00:21
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straight up brolic posted:Tulsi Gabbard is someone to root for, but she's probably too young Gabbard is apparently into some pretty scary islamophobia via her admiration of Modi
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Nov 11, 2016 00:23
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Potato Salad posted:Or, well hey, maybe Trump will appoint at minimum a moderate to the Supreme Court. Worst case scenario is Scalia gets replaced with another Scalia and that didn't result in literally all progress up to that point being rolled back when he was first appointed. Hell, SCOTUS ruled in favor of Obamacare twice despite being stacked with conservatives.
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Nov 11, 2016 00:22
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They'll get rid of the filibuster and anyone who doesntgo along party limes will get destroyed in 2018. Don't think for one second this isn't going to be as bad as it can possibly get. I may die from having no insurance.
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Nov 11, 2016 00:24
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Fojar38 posted:You are fortune-telling, friend, and that is not mentally healthy. We don't know what the SCOTUS will look like, and the Dems will retain influence in the senate. The GOP still can't unilaterally roll those things back. So are you going to only repeat this "fortune-telling" nonsense every single time someone predicts a future bleaker than yours or repeat it every time we try to discuss the future?
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Nov 11, 2016 00:23
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Bip Roberts posted:Also WRT Ellison as DNC chair I really like it because it sends the message that the party is going to pick up some economic populism and push at Trumps demographic but islamophobia and racism are absolutely not coming along. Does Keith Ellison have a history on fighting for a strong leftist economic policy? (Seriously asking)
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Nov 11, 2016 00:23
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Fojar38 posted:Worst case scenario is Scalia gets replaced with another Scalia and that didn't result in literally all progress up to that point being rolled back when he was first appointed. Hell, SCOTUS ruled in favor of Obamacare twice despite being stacked with conservatives.
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Nov 11, 2016 00:24
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Trabisnikof posted:So are you going to only repeat this "fortune-telling" nonsense every single time someone predicts a future bleaker than yours or repeat it every time we try to discuss the future? It ain't nonsense, it's part of CBT.
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Nov 11, 2016 00:24
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When everything looks bad, at least these days I have the Eternal Suffering of Christopher James Christie to look forward to. Chris Christie: Donald Trump and I haven't discussed a potential Cabinet role NJ Senate Majority Leader calls for Christie's impeachment
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Nov 11, 2016 00:25
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Hollismason posted:They'll get rid of the filibuster and anyone who doesntgo along party limes will get destroyed in 2018. Yeah I may not get my ADHD meds and I'll go full retard again. I don't want to go full retard again. Not to compare our situations. I would pray for you but I'm not religious. You're in my thoughts.
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Nov 11, 2016 00:26
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Mr. Fowl posted:When everything looks bad, at least these days I have the Eternal Suffering of Christopher James Christie to look forward to. Ever heard of a presidential pardon?
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Nov 11, 2016 00:26
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disjoe posted:Does Keith Ellison have a history on fighting for a strong leftist economic policy? (Seriously asking) he's one of the furthest-left members of congress and was the first Rep to endorse sanders in the primary, except maybe grijalva (I forget who came first, but one of the two)
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Mr. Fowl posted:When everything looks bad, at least these days I have the Eternal Suffering of Christopher James Christie to look forward to. This made me laugh out loud pretty hard.
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Nov 11, 2016 00:25
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disjoe posted:Does Keith Ellison have a history on fighting for a strong leftist economic policy? (Seriously asking) He plays the game with the party but he was strong for Bernie. I don't know how much he is on the record for but it's not exactly like you get a chance to vote for full communism in the US house.
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Nov 11, 2016 00:27
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Dafte posted:How is that worst case? Worst case is two 80+ year old liberal judges need to replaced in the next 4 years. Only if they croak, and they might not, and in 2 years if people like you get/continue to be active in politics the Democrats might control the senate by then.
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Fojar38 posted:It ain't nonsense, it's part of CBT. Stop using your fetish as an excuse. Also we aren't in therapy, we're in a political discussion thread. You're got no problem discussing the future until someone disagrees with you, then oh it's all "don't hurt your pretty head with those nasty thoughts" Tatsuta Age posted:Ever heard of a presidential pardon? The president can't pardon state crimes.
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Nov 11, 2016 00:27
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:what are the protests going to achieve, my dude, this is four years of punishment for picking the shittiest candidate on planet earth I'd say early organizing is the first step in planning a ground-based grass-roots start to a more powerful answer in 4 years - why wait? It also sends a very clear message to local representatives that while they may have power now - it is at the behest of a populace that will pay very close attention to the use of it. Whether it's effective, or even taken that way at all remains to be seen I suppose.
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Nov 11, 2016 00:28
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Remember how Hillfolk used to share HA Goodman's articles and laugh at him for saying that someone like Bernie was going to be the only way to keep Trump out of power....
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Nov 11, 2016 00:28
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Tatsuta Age posted:Ever heard of a presidential pardon? You really think Trump would be bothered to pardon his errand boy? If Christie mattered he wouldn't be in this situation to begin with.
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Mr. Fowl posted:When everything looks bad, at least these days I have the Eternal Suffering of Christopher James Christie to look forward to. Im not owned! Im not owned!
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