SUK ZONE: it's all a pointless exercise and you're just screaming into the void

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Internet Explorer: Jun 1, 2005

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

looks like the DNC chair is going to be the first big battle of the dem civil war

Good. Let's get this poo poo started, so that we can get it finished.

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:13

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# ? May 10, 2024 13:26

VirtualStranger: Aug 20, 2012

Corek posted:

https://twitter.com/GovHowardDean/status/796838538641833990

lol gently caress that lobbyist shitbag.

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:15

Nonsense: Jan 26, 2007

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

looks like the DNC chair is going to be the first big battle of the dem civil war

https://twitter.com/Bro_Pair/status/796843233322082304

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:15

Zikan: Feb 29, 2004

Vox Nihili posted:

The only reason I don't immediately reject Dean is that I'm terrified of the prospect of an even emptier suit getting the job. DWS syndrome.

don't be afraid. the dnc got us into this message. they completely failed the country. the blood of this horrific administration is on their hands as well.

be angry. sharpen your anger into a knife and use it to cut off this gangrenous ideology.

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:15

Cyron: Mar 10, 2014; by zen death robot

i fear the dems will not learn a single thing this election and vote for Hillary again. i seen people on even on this forum complaning that the new DNC chair is going to be 2 white men.

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:16

Nonsense: Jan 26, 2007

Zikan posted:

don't be afraid. the dnc got us into this message. they completely failed the country. the blood of this horrific administration is on their hands as well.

be angry. sharpen your anger into a knife and use it to cut off this gangrenous ideology.

Yep.

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:16

SerCypher: May 10, 2006; Gay baby jail...? What the hell?

I really don't like the sound of that...; Fun Shoe

Ironically the thing that's getting me more involved in politics is my chinese national wife who loves american politics.

She went with me to vote and thought it was the coolest thing ever, and now the idea of going to a party meeting is blowing her loving mind.

It's sort of reminding me that "Oh yeah we do live in a democracy (lovely as it is) and I can do more than just lie down and wait to get hosed. That's better than most of the world."

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:17

Pener Kropoopkin: Jan 30, 2013

The Democratic email leaks were a window into the madhouse. Bloodless corporate vampires referring to human beings with marketing lingo, framing candidates and policy platforms as "products." It was obvious that the whole foundation had been rotted to its core, but I thought they would still carry this election through sheer institutional inertia. I knew the Left would be proven right but not like this.

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:17

Well What Now: Nov 10, 2016; by Fluffdaddy; Shredded Hen

Peel posted:

I agree with this, dude. But be prepared for the possibility of still not getting a majority of the subdemographic and for your stronger gains to come from the rest of the working class.

To be clear, I think democratic margins can improve among poorer white Americans without winning many voters back from Trump outright, i.e. taking Trump voters and making them Kanye voters. Modern American electoral politics turns heavily on turnout.

No no, that's reasonable. I just haven't had much sleep and I'm not processing things well.

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:17

MJ12: Apr 8, 2009

Nonsense posted:

https://twitter.com/Bro_Pair/status/796843233322082304

I actually think this is the most productive response:

https://twitter.com/SwitchGlitchmon/status/796845066996154368

They have failed, most definitely-but they can still do some good if used in the right way.

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:17

Cyron: Mar 10, 2014; by zen death robot

look may i ask something, i live in chicago, i voted and campaign for Bernie in the primaries and got my whole family from brother, parents and cosion who hate politics to vote for him. i want the DNC to go away from the neoliberal direction, what do i do as someone who never did collage but always follow the election.

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:20

Peel: Dec 3, 2007

Well What Now posted:

No no, that's reasonable. I just haven't had much sleep and I'm not processing things well.

That's fair, I've had maybe 8-9 hours total the last two nights and I'm not even American.

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:20

Pener Kropoopkin: Jan 30, 2013

Nonsense posted:

https://twitter.com/Bro_Pair/status/796843233322082304

https://twitter.com/Bro_Pair/status/796852996126740480

:same:

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:20

Vox Nihili: May 28, 2008

Zikan posted:

don't be afraid. the dnc got us into this message. they completely failed the country. the blood of this horrific administration is on their hands as well.

be angry. sharpen your anger into a knife and use it to cut off this gangrenous ideology.

you're right of course.

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:23

Well What Now: Nov 10, 2016; by Fluffdaddy; Shredded Hen

back when ships were mostly made of wood there was a practice of taking an old ship, scrapping it except for the salvageable material and parts, then building a brand-new ship with the same name and saying it was the same ship as the old one because it was "reconstructed"

I don't know where I'm going with this story but I think the DNC could use a reconstruction of that sort

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:23

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/im-a-coastal-elite-from-the-midwest-the-real-bubble-is-rural-america#sthash.hQsGH2Zt.rws7PPMx.gbpl

quote:

I�m from the rural Midwest. I now live in Washington, D.C. All of this talk about coastal elites needing to understand more of America has it backward.

...
When you grow up in rural America, denying rights to people is an abstract concept. Denying marriage rights to gay people isn�t that much different than denying boarding rights to Klingons.

...
To pin this election on the coastal elite is a cop-out. It�s intellectually dishonest, and it�s beneath us.

We, as a culture, have to stop infantilizing and deifying rural and white working-class Americans. Their experience is not more of a real American experience than anyone else�s, but when we say that it is, we give people a pass from seeing and understanding more of their country. More Americans need to see more of the United States. They need to shake hands with a Muslim, or talk soccer with a middle aged lesbian, or attend a lecture by a female business executive.

...
If we pin this election on coastal elites, we are excusing white working-class and rural Americans for voting for a man accused of violating the Fair Housing Act by refusing to rent apartments to black people. If we pin this election on coastal elites, we are excusing white working-class and rural Americans for voting for a man who called Mexicans rapists, drug dealers and criminals. If we pin this election on coastal elites, we are excusing white working-class and rural Americans for voting for a man who called for a complete ban on Muslim immigration.

...
Change has not been kind to the Midwest and rural America.

And rather than embrace it, rural and white working-class Americans are twisting and turning, fighting it every step of the way. We will never return to the days where a white man could barely graduate high school and walk onto a factory floor at 18 and get a well-paying job for life. That hasn�t set in for much of the Midwest.

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:22

Nonsense: Jan 26, 2007

sportsgenius86 posted:

http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/im-a-coastal-elite-from-the-midwest-the-real-bubble-is-rural-america#sthash.hQsGH2Zt.rws7PPMx.gbpl

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:25

Karl Barks: Jan 21, 1981

sportsgenius86 posted:

http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/im-a-coastal-elite-from-the-midwest-the-real-bubble-is-rural-america#sthash.hQsGH2Zt.rws7PPMx.gbpl

agree, we need a government program to pay for white rural working class to visit coastal cities.

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:25

MJ12: Apr 8, 2009

Cyron posted:

look may i ask something, i live in chicago, i voted and campaign for Bernie in the primaries and got my whole family from brother, parents and cosion who hate politics to vote for him. i want the DNC to go away from the neoliberal direction, what do i do as someone who never did collage but always follow the election.

Do research on local democrats. Guys and girls with views similar to Bernie's you support. Call them up. Volunteer for them. If you got your family who hates politics excited about Bernie, you might have the charisma to make a good volunteer for those people. It might not seem like a big help then, but it really is.

Well What Now posted:

back when ships were mostly made of wood there was a practice of taking an old ship, scrapping it except for the salvageable material and parts, then building a brand-new ship with the same name and saying it was the same ship as the old one because it was "reconstructed"

I don't know where I'm going with this story but I think the DNC could use a reconstruction of that sort

Yeah I agree. There's lots of salvageable things in the DNC but it needs a real big shakeup.

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:25

Vox Nihili: May 28, 2008

Let's blame the electorate, that tends to improve results right?

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:25

A GIANT PARSNIP: Apr 13, 2010; Too much fuckin' eggnog

sportsgenius86 posted:

http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/im-a-coastal-elite-from-the-midwest-the-real-bubble-is-rural-america#sthash.hQsGH2Zt.rws7PPMx.gbpl

Well thank god that's solved. It's been real everyone, see ya in 4 years!

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:27

Souai: Dec 16, 2007

sportsgenius86 posted:

http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/im-a-coastal-elite-from-the-midwest-the-real-bubble-is-rural-america#sthash.hQsGH2Zt.rws7PPMx.gbpl

I can't believe this is a real article written by a real person. Why would anyone peacefully accept a massive decline in quality of life?

Holy poo poo.

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:27

Matt Zerella: Oct 7, 2002; Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/796856031393423360

:barf:

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:28

anime was right: Jun 27, 2008; death is certain
keep yr cool

sportsgenius86 posted:

http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/im-a-coastal-elite-from-the-midwest-the-real-bubble-is-rural-america#sthash.hQsGH2Zt.rws7PPMx.gbpl

no loving way.

they're so out of touch holy poo poo.

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:29

Well What Now: Nov 10, 2016; by Fluffdaddy; Shredded Hen

sportsgenius86 posted:

http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/im-a-coastal-elite-from-the-midwest-the-real-bubble-is-rural-america#sthash.hQsGH2Zt.rws7PPMx.gbpl

And nothing of value was learned.

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:28

Pener Kropoopkin: Jan 30, 2013

sportsgenius86 posted:

http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/im-a-coastal-elite-from-the-midwest-the-real-bubble-is-rural-america#sthash.hQsGH2Zt.rws7PPMx.gbpl

Why would we pin blame on the people who ran the worst presidential campaign in American history?

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:29

NumberLast: Jun 7, 2014

Well What Now posted:

back when ships were mostly made of wood there was a practice of taking an old ship, scrapping it except for the salvageable material and parts, then building a brand-new ship with the same name and saying it was the same ship as the old one because it was "reconstructed"

I don't know where I'm going with this story but I think the DNC could use a reconstruction of that sort

I don't know what to tell you about the least time the Dems tried reconstruction

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:28

Zikan: Feb 29, 2004

Cyron posted:

look may i ask something, i live in chicago, i voted and campaign for Bernie in the primaries and got my whole family from brother, parents and cosion who hate politics to vote for him. i want the DNC to go away from the neoliberal direction, what do i do as someone who never did collage but always follow the election.

everyone's laid out the immediate steps of volunteering but for the first battle in dem civil war is to ensure that bernie sander's candidate, congressman keith ellison, is picked dnc chair. i laid out the process the chair is selected in this post

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3797403&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=41#post466337725

in short it is not a party election like uk labor but decided upon by a vote of the committee members

individually you can contact the relevant individuals by phone, letter, and e-mail to express you support for congressman ellison. figure out who you can contact and do it. tell you friends. organize.

i don't know if this pressure will help but it's something

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:29

The Kingfish: Oct 21, 2015

sportsgenius86 posted:

http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/im-a-coastal-elite-from-the-midwest-the-real-bubble-is-rural-america#sthash.hQsGH2Zt.rws7PPMx.gbpl

poor whites need travel more and maybe have the equiv. of a college experience? .

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:29

mrmcd: Feb 22, 2003; Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

sportsgenius86 posted:

http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/im-a-coastal-elite-from-the-midwest-the-real-bubble-is-rural-america#sthash.hQsGH2Zt.rws7PPMx.gbpl

Yeah. The problem is not knowing enough Lesbian soccer moms. Not a candidate that kept repeating "TPP? What TPP? I never said TPP." while her data nerds tortured spreadsheets until they confessed she was winning bigly.

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:31

Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

Meanwhile, my entire social media feed on my phone is just the most twee garbage. augh.

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:31

Typo: Aug 19, 2009; Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

sportsgenius86 posted:

http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/im-a-coastal-elite-from-the-midwest-the-real-bubble-is-rural-america#sthash.hQsGH2Zt.rws7PPMx.gbpl

I agree, the government should indeed subsidize poor working Americans until they can take a vacation once in a while

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:32

crazy cloud: Nov 7, 2012; by Cyrano4747; Lipstick Apathy

Cyron posted:

i fear the dems will not learn a single thing this election and vote for Hillary again. i seen people on even on this forum complaning that the new DNC chair is going to be 2 white men.

The new dnc chair is going to be a black muslim named Keith Ellison insha allah

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:31

Karl Barks: Jan 21, 1981

a bunch of facebook friends are sharing that vox leslie knope letter about donald trump and saying poo poo like "crying rn" and i'm like, are you kidding me.

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:32

Pener Kropoopkin: Jan 30, 2013

Remember how much John Oliver made fun of gay tiger lover Joe Exotic? He sure as poo poo could have run a better presidential campaign.

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:32

GlyphGryph: Jun 23, 2013; Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

sportsgenius86 posted:

http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/im-a-coastal-elite-from-the-midwest-the-real-bubble-is-rural-america#sthash.hQsGH2Zt.rws7PPMx.gbpl

Is rural New Jersey actually a real place even?

Edit: What is this guy even going after? Is it just "don't blame the elites for loving this up, please, I'm one of them"?

GlyphGryph has issued a correction as of 00:38 on Nov 11, 2016

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:34

Souai: Dec 16, 2007

Zikan posted:

because this is my only source of hope right now i'm literally looking up the bylaws of the DNC here: http://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.democrats.org/Downloads/DNC_Charter__Bylaws_9.17.15.pdf

as far as I can tell the Democratic National Committee consists of

i may begin a spread sheet with the contact info of all of these fucks so phone, letter, and e-mail campaigns can begin

If you do I will message every person on that list I plausibly can given my location.

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:34

Victory Position: Mar 16, 2004

sportsgenius86 posted:

http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/im-a-coastal-elite-from-the-midwest-the-real-bubble-is-rural-america#sthash.hQsGH2Zt.rws7PPMx.gbpl

Senior Director of User Experience

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:34

Matt Zerella: Oct 7, 2002; Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Karl Barks posted:

a bunch of facebook friends are sharing that vox leslie knope letter about donald trump and saying poo poo like "crying rn" and i'm like, are you kidding me.

Honestly, this ruined Parks and Rec for me. And I love that show.

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:34

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# ? May 10, 2024 13:26

Phi230: Feb 2, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

Zikan posted:

because this is my only source of hope right now i'm literally looking up the bylaws of the DNC here: http://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.democrats.org/Downloads/DNC_Charter__Bylaws_9.17.15.pdf

as far as I can tell the Democratic National Committee consists of

i may begin a spread sheet with the contact info of all of these fucks so phone, letter, and e-mail campaigns can begin

do it we need people to organize people into action

right now Dems, like me, don't know poo poo about local politics

# ? Nov 11, 2016 00:34

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