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kartikeya posted:And therefore the solution was to vote for Trump or just not vote at all? Yes the solution is to not vote or vote for trump, because that's how you get your voice heard.
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Gail Wynand posted:She won the popular vote, I wouldn't call that unpopular. Slightly more popular than the least popular candidate in history, yes.
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Nov 11, 2016 03:46
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kartikeya posted:You're literally calling people who voted directly to stop Trump from gaining power in the general idiots because the only way to do that was to vote for the candidate we had, not throw temper tantrums about the candidate we didn't.
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Nov 11, 2016 03:48
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furiouskoala posted:5) Abortion will never be acceptable to lots of people. If you think fetuses are people, then abortion is literally mass murder. To them, the woman's right to choose is the right to choose murder. There is no rational arbiter of whether a fetus is a human, it is close to axiomatic. This wasn't a dealbreaker though as Dems have won many elections with abortion as a core plank of the platform.
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Yes the solution is to not vote or vote for trump, because that's how you get your voice heard. Well gosh, I'm sure glad they got their voice 'heard', I guess everyone who's about to be turbofucked ten thousand different ways by a Trump presidency can take comfort in that, if they're still alive at the end of it.
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zh1 posted:do any of you people have even a slight bit of self-awareness? i mean you're having this big debate about What Went Wrong and if you just looked in the mirror you'd understand I looked in the mirror but I don't think I saw the Electoral College looking back?
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zh1 posted:Think about what was being said in 2012, 2008, 2004, 2000, 1996, 1992, 1988, it was the same sad song. Or is that asking too much for you subhumans? Ahaha, now I'm subhuman. Look, if you are literally incapable of seeing that there are ranges of awful, I don't think there's much that I can do to convince you at this point, but pay attention 'cause you might be getting a really close front seat demonstration come January.
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Mister Adequate posted:I looked in the mirror but I don't think I saw the Electoral College looking back? Haha...wait, i can't tell who's kidding or not anymore
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Dapper_Swindler posted:I guess they gave him his twitter back. nothing has changed. And soon he'll have the @POTUS handle, his tweets will be archived by NARA and will no doubt be a fixture of the Donald Trump Presidential Library.
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Nov 11, 2016 03:55
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Yes the solution is to not vote or vote for trump, because that's how you get your voice heard. Well congrats, your voice saying "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White Children," has been heard loud and clear.
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Kilroy posted:Cool story bro. For your next trick please justify the typical pro-lifer's opposition to contraception in the main. Beats me, I don't know anyone who's against birth control. It's the hardcore over 35 evangelicals and I don't really know those people, and they never talk about politics with anyone outside of their church or immediate family. I'm not pro-life myself, I just ignored it because I don't think a judge or two will make the court throw stare decisis out the window and abortion access around here will remain as it is either way (have to go to the big city to do it).
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kartikeya posted:Ahaha, now I'm subhuman. Is it the same front seat a bunch of Middle Eastern people would have been getting when Clinton droned them to death?
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Jesus Christ she had serious baggage from her time in the 90s because she was pro welfare reform and pro mass incarceration. It's not all a right wing conspiracy. She lied to people and told them black kids were dangerous super predators. No one came out to vote for her. End of story. Yes I'm sure it was an out-of-context comment made in the 90s that caused Clinton to lose, not EMAILS EMAILS EMAILS KILLARY RIGGED THE PRIMARY BENGHAZI BENGHAZI EMAILS EMAILS EMAILS and a shitload of voter suppression creating unreal lines at the polls
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Dapper_Swindler posted:I guess they gave him his twitter back. nothing has changed. I loving hate our rapist president
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this is the thing that's worrying me most. the idea that economics and social justice are mutually exclusive is blatantly false. attacking the very people you need to attract by viciously attacking them is foolish. the dems just lost on a platform that ignored economic change for millions of struggling Americans but they don't give gently caress because they're white. its loving crazy edit: no war but CLASS war, idiots RaySmuckles fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Nov 11, 2016 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:I guess they gave him his twitter back. nothing has changed. Gonna be weird when @POTUS is tweeting conspiracy theories and insults
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oh no trump said bad things about women *supports president who supported a war that killed a million innocent people*
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furiouskoala posted:Beats me, I don't know anyone who's against birth control. It's the hardcore over 35 evangelicals and I don't really know those people, and they never talk about politics with anyone outside of their church or immediate family. I'm not pro-life myself, I just ignored it because I don't think a judge or two will make the court throw stare decisis out the window and abortion access around here will remain as it is either way (have to go to the big city to do it). Are you sure abortion access will remain the same? Assuming Pence gets his wish and a conservative Supreme Court overturns roe v wade, it'll be up to the states to decide, and unless you live in a state with a dem governor/dem majority state legislature, abortion may be banned at state level?
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furiouskoala posted:As a Trump voter from a rural area, here is why Hillary lost. 4. I disagree with but then thats more my Christianity then anything. But here is a good reason for explaining why some voted Trump and many others stayed home.
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El Pollo Blanco posted:Are you sure abortion access will remain the same? Assuming Pence gets his wish and a conservative Supreme Court overturns roe v wade, it'll be up to the states to decide, and unless you live in a state with a dem governor/dem majority state legislature, abortion may be banned at state level? Replacing Scalia with Mini Scalia doesn't mean Roe v Wade gets overturned. Kennedy and Roberts would still need convincing, or RBG dies/retires in the next 4 years.
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zh1 posted:oh no trump said bad things about women *supports president who supported a war that killed a million innocent people* Trump supported that same war you dumbfuck
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Unzip and Attack posted:Replacing Scalia with Mini Scalia doesn't mean Roe v Wade gets overturned. Kennedy and Roberts would still need convincing, or RBG dies/retires in the next 4 years. I am working on the assumption that at least one other liberal SC justice probably dies or retires in the next 4-8 years.
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QuarkJets posted:Trump supported that same war you dumbfuck
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mcmagic posted:He better get used to this. We're going to see it a lot in the next 4 years. On the plus side it'll give us a front seat to the inevitable meltdown when he realizes that being president is hard.
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QuarkJets posted:Trump supported that same war you dumbfuck He didn't have to motivate the Democratic base to vote for him.
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Fojar38 posted:On the plus side it'll give us a front seat to the inevitable meltdown when he realizes that being president is hard. There is no plus side. It's going to be very ugly.
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zh1 posted:oh no trump said bad things about women *supports president who supported a war that killed a million innocent people* It's fitting that America will soon have a taste of the fascism that it imposes on other countries around the world. People in those countries get by somehow, so it'll be okay 
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Fojar38 posted:~The Republican Party is not unified, the Democrats still have influence in the senate, and Scalia replacing Scalia doesn't suddenly make SCOTUS a Trump extension.~ - The Republican establishment never saw eye to eye with Trump in the first place and there's some things in his platform they don't want. (Congressional term limits are #1 on his list of things to do in his first 100 days and McConnell has already said no way.) Not to mention the existing wedge between the Tea Partiers and the GOPe. Trump has shown that he is perfectly willing to attack other Republicans. There's a good chance that there's going to be infighting or at least friction. - If Republicans stupidly decide to get rid of the filibuster, Dems flipping enough seats to take the senate in 2018 can gently caress them over hard. - I'm not entirely sure it's even possible for Trump's nominee to be more conservative than Scalia was. Keep in mind that Scalia was still alive when the Supreme Court upheld Obamacare and ruled in favor of same-sex marriage. This is at worst a return to the status quo, not a loss. (Assuming we don't lose a liberal justice in the next 4 years, anyway.) Bad poo poo's gonna happen for sure, but if Democrats can get it together the Senate isn't completely out of reach. Without the filibuster, a Democratic Senate can be a bigger headache for Trump than the Republicans ever were for Obama. Here's the thing: the Democrats need to start figuring poo poo out NOW. They need to find a way to energize the base and reverse the apathy Hillary caused. This election was lost because people stayed home, not because people flipped to Trump. The numbers are there, but the Democrats didn't inspire anyone. You gotta give people something to vote for, not against. Personally, I think embracing Sanders and his platform can motivate those rust belt voters that stayed home on Tuesday. Point out how Trump' policies don't actually help anyone. Offer solutions that will. Bring new blood into the party. Give everyone something to vote for, including rural voters that typically vote R.
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mcmagic posted:There is no plus side. It's going to be very ugly. It will provide comedy opportunities for this here comedy forum.
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zh1 posted:Is it the same front seat a bunch of Middle Eastern people would have been getting when Clinton droned them to death? No, because I suspect you aren't actually going to suffer at all until the economy burns, but you'll be able to see what happens to all of your neighbors who aren't so lucky in great detail. I don't have much faith you're going to care, because why would you start now, but you'll definitely get a demonstration unless Trump suddenly transforms into alternate universe orange man. And if you think Trump won't be using those drones on both the people in the middle east and anyone that dares to insult him, you're abysmally stupid. But I don't think you actually think that, I think you just find pretending to care about Middle Eastern people's welfare when it specifically relates to Clinton nicely convenient. Hey, at least they won't be able to try to escape to the US when we light their entire world on fire now!
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Rated PG-34 posted:It's fitting that America will soon have a taste of the fascism that it imposes on other countries around the world.
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Fojar38 posted:On the plus side it'll give us a front seat to the inevitable meltdown when he realizes that being president is hard. I'm legit scared that Trump is going to have a total psychotic breakdown as President. Dude could barely keep it together running a campaign, he has no idea how unendingly stressful the real job is going to be.
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zh1 posted:let me just reiterate that this forum is the result of the complete purging of anyone with a clue that took place in 2009-2011, thanks to the mods evilweasel, vilerat, etc. I didn't post in D&D then. What happened exactly?
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El Pollo Blanco posted:Assuming Pence gets his wish and a conservative Supreme Court overturns roe v wade, it'll be up to the states to decide Pence won't stop there. He will try and ban it outright, such that not even states can overturn it.
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kartikeya posted:No, because I suspect you aren't actually going to suffer at all until the economy burns, but you'll be able to see what happens to all of your neighbors who aren't so lucky in great detail. I don't have much faith you're going to care, because why would you start now, but you'll definitely get a demonstration unless Trump suddenly transforms into alternate universe orange man. case in point
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