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Countblanc posted:there are plenty of slow things in OU, being slow itself isnt a death sentence if the mon has other redeeming features. being a bulky fire/dark type alone gives the cat some unique options since Knock Off isn't going anywhere and he isn't weak to Fairy like a lot of dark resists are While that's true, slow speed is still a huge detriment in OU unless there's some redeeming value. Like big Litten will be a decent wallbreaker but there are so many options for it in OU already that I can't see it performing above RU even with its type. Grown Popillo will just be another throwaway bulky water out of many even with that awesome water/fairy typing. The only niche that stands out to me is grown Rowlet because grass/ghost is really unique along with long reach and the ability to remove switching. Shame its defense is rear end but maybe the typing + spdef can make up for it?
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extra row of teeth posted:I'm so disappointed in this gen's starter speeds. Can't wait to see them all inhabit Smogon trash tiers despite their cool designs/other stats/gimmicks. Well, Ken Sugimori decided his preference in the case of Garfield head/Persian Body or Persian head/Garfield body.
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the crew Team gently caress Dragons Neo_Crimson posted:Also is there anything that's decently fast? Ribombee, Salazzle, and Minior (with its shell broken) all break 100 speed, at least. Ribombee gets to be particularly fast as poo poo because it gets Quiver Dance.
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extra row of teeth posted:While that's true, slow speed is still a huge detriment in OU unless there's some redeeming value. Like big Litten will be a decent wallbreaker but there are so many options for it in OU already that I can't see it performing above RU even with its type. Grown Popillo will just be another throwaway bulky water out of many even with that awesome water/fairy typing. Trevenant is NU and unless you are going special/mixed or scarf the only relevant stat Decidueye beats Trevenant in is spdef. Primarina has almost the exact same base stats as Gardevoir, beating it in every stat except speed. Non-Mega Gardevoir is in UU and is fine. Water/Fairy is probably a better typing than Psychic/Fairy. Lycanroc is the second fastest rock type in the game (4th if you count Aerodactyl/Mega Aerodactyl as different pokemon and Arceus-Rock I guess), has a unique priority move, and better attack stat than Aerodactyl. Salandit has a very unique typing and also good offensive stats. So outside of the legends there are 2 fast pokemon this gen that have some potential in competitive. There's plenty of not-fast pokemon that have pretty decent potential. I expect a reasonable number of the legendaries and a few non-legendaries to make OU and a decent number of new pokemon to make UU.
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I can't decide between alola muk and the sea urchin
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mandatory lesbian posted:please sho me Corndoggin' it's gonna be the name of my drizzle pelipper
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Where are you guys making these team images at?
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Dexie posted:Where are you guys making these team images at? https://richi3f.github.io/pokemon-team-planner/
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I'm curious if the dumpstering of dark void will actually be enough to bring darkrai down but I REALLY doubt it would stay in ou for long
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e: ^^ Unfortunately, from what I understand, he doesn't actually have auto-sleep, so he's not status immune Before you guys get too excited about the low speeds and their effect on competitive viability, keep in mind that Trick Room is now a terrain and there's an item that extends terrains to eight turns. While I'm at it, there's also Pokemon that set terrains automatically now and terrains are actually kinda really good when they don't have to eat a move slot or a turn, so this gen's meta might be really weird.
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 I think this'll be the team i'll run with for the endgame stuff, but i'm completely ready to swap stuff based on how i felt throughout the adventure. Like, there's Alolan Raichu, Marowak and Golem that i'm eyeing, and the Crabrawler line, as well as the sandcastle.
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LAY-ZX posted:e: ^^ Unfortunately, from what I understand, he doesn't actually have auto-sleep, so he's not status immune Nothing comes with an Auto-Trick Room though. And it's not that great of a move in singles since you have to waste a valuable turn to set it up, but I expect it'll probably see way more use in VGC and Doubles since you only have to sacrifice half a turn to set it up there. Araxxor fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Nov 11, 2016 |
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I preordered the sumbitch and I really hope Amazon comes through and actually delivers on the 18th because I'm taking a trip on the 19th and would love to take this with me
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Nov 11, 2016 03:34
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Sweet. I finished the post game story and got $1,000,000 Pokebux.
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Thanks! I think this will be the party I run through Alola with:  A lot of shared weaknesses but eh. I'll manage. I'll probably have a squad of spare monsters I rotate in and out too. There's so many good ones this generation, it's really hard to settle on just six.
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I wanna have Punchdragon on my team but I'm concerned he'll only appear at, like, the game's Victory Road equivalent.
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blizzardvizard posted:I wanna have Punchdragon on my team but I'm concerned he'll only appear at, like, the game's Victory Road equivalent. Your concern is basically correct.
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Unaware was not nerfed. The wording on the ability was made really unclear for some reason. So Pyukumuku can actually make use of it. Arceus can now use the Z Crystals to change its type, not just plates. Reinanigans posted:I understand the UBs and the Tapus don't necessarily have the highest Base Stat Totals, but they're essentially single line "special" Pokémon, legendaries. Counting Lunala and Solgaleo's 2 pre-evolutions it's nearly 20 legendary Pokémon introduced in one generation. Considering that the game itself gives you multiples of the version specific Ultra Beasts they don't seem to count as legendaries. Araxxor fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Nov 11, 2016 |
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Nov 11, 2016 04:19
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Give it a day or two and get someone to trade you a baby egg
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LAY-ZX posted:Your concern is basically correct. Goddammit. Komoo-o is cool so I'll probably still sub him in once II get him but before that I guess I'll use Fabtrio in its slot.
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 This is what I'm thinking. Maybe ghost anchor instead of ghost sand.
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Been trying real hard to avoid spoilers for this one, but there is one thing I'm keen to know in advance. How does the pre-National Dex stack up to X/Y? Putting like 400+ Pokemon at your fingertips pre-E4 was the best design decision they made in those games. Corrollary: how many new ones did they include? (Alola forms count since it pretty much turns them into radically different Pokemon.)
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Dr. Fetus posted:Unaware was not nerfed. The wording on the ability was made really unclear for some reason. So Pyukumuku can actually make use of it. I'm glad for my friend Quagsire, but I was looking forward to not having to deal with Clefable ever again.
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The best non-legendary 7th gen Pokemon is definitely Toxapex, who is going to be OU easily.
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dont worry magic guard means you still would have had to deal with it
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mabels big day posted:The best non-legendary 7th gen Pokemon is definitely Toxapex, who is going to be OU easily. Seriously. Regenerator on a Pokemon with defenses like that is disgusting.
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Rangpur posted:Been trying real hard to avoid spoilers for this one, but there is one thing I'm keen to know in advance. How does the pre-National Dex stack up to X/Y? Speaking of the Pokedex, when and where do you get the National Dex in Sun/Moon? After beating the Champion, saving, and reloading, I don't have the National Dex. I spoke to Professors Kukui and Oak but they don't mention it at all.
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Rangpur posted:Been trying real hard to avoid spoilers for this one, but there is one thing I'm keen to know in advance. How does the pre-National Dex stack up to X/Y? Putting like 400+ Pokemon at your fingertips pre-E4 was the best design decision they made in those games. Corrollary: how many new ones did they include? (Alola forms count since it pretty much turns them into radically different Pokemon.) 330ish is the total, I think. The count for new pokemon might have been 80ish? compuserved posted:Speaking of the Pokedex, when and where do you get the National Dex in Sun/Moon? I can't remember which game it was, but I think for one of them in the past you needed to finish your regional dex first, with "seen" counting for finished. Maybe it was even gen 4? Worth a shot if you can't find it through anything else--haven't seen anybody reporting how to get it otherwise.
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Decus posted:330ish is the total, I think. The count for new pokemon might have been 80ish? I haven't been able to find anything else either. Thanks for the response. 
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Is there any equivalent of friend safaris to inject some national dex mons into the battle spot meta before January?
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cheetah7071 posted:Is there any equivalent of friend safaris to inject some national dex mons into the battle spot meta before January? Yes. It turns out you can use QR codes to get mons outside of the regional dexes. People have gotten stuff like other gen starters through this method.
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Dr. Fetus posted:Yes. It turns out you can use QR codes to get mons outside of the regional dexes. People have gotten stuff like other gen starters through this method. How long until someone makes a QR code generator to get whatever you want? Assuming it's that easy.
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Reinanigans posted:Apricorn Ball Pokémon are hard to come by because they're only available in HG/SS. The Pokémon themselves are not that rare at all, but because you can inherit the parents' Pokéballs, Apricorn Mons are valuable as breeding fodder. Good to know! I thought all pokemon hatched just got regular pokeballs! Is it the mom or pop?
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Khanstant posted:Good to know! I thought all pokemon hatched just got regular pokeballs! Is it the mom or pop? The mother. Dittos don't count, and Master Balls and Cherish Balls can't be passed down. You just get a regular Pokeball if you try that.
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Khanstant posted:Good to know! I thought all pokemon hatched just got regular pokeballs! Is it the mom or pop? Pokemon inherit their mom's Pokeball. Note, this means that Male/Ditto and Nongender/Ditto always produce pokeballs. Only female pokemon pass them down.
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Zore posted:Pokemon inherit their mom's Pokeball. There are actually reports that male/genderless Pokemon pass down balls when breeding with Ditto now.
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