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The problem of switching guns is three fold, fyi. First off, no there aren't cheaper guns. The US sells guns at extremely good prices to our friends, and we sell well undermarket. Yes AK's are "cheaper", but ironically they sell for higher since you don't get the friend discount. Secondly is training. All guns are different. All guns work differently. The key to a successful training/military/defense force is having them know how to operate what they've been given. If Filipinos have been trained on using M16s ( they have ), it'd cost quite a bit to retrain everyone on the new guns. As in probably multiple times more then the cost of actually buying the guns in the first place. Thirdly is ammo. Hey guess what, the M16 uses the stock standard 5.56 NATO rounds. If we assume he buys from Russia/China, he'll be getting either AK's which use 7.62 ( or 5.45..... ), or various Chinese weapons which range from 5.8 to 7.62. And boy howdy I hope he doesn't assume the various 7.62 NATO rounds he has probably lying around can work in a AK that fires 7.62 rounds, because the Russian cartridges are of a slightly different size and using NATO rounds will cause damage to the guns. Once again the restocking fees will kill him, NATO rounds are generally fairly cheap for NATO allies, as NATO wants people to have the ammunition to fire their weapons. NATO has standardized the creation/sale of their ammo so it's near ubiquitous. Russia and China haven't. Good luck finding a supplier that won't gouge the Philippines for every penny it has, just to keep your drug war going! You can't just flip a switch and suddenly have AK-47's on hand ready to go. The whole jump is complex and costly. I don't think he realizes the costly part. He's going to be paying probably double, but likely triple or quadruple what he's currently paying for weapons for significantly worse products. And I'm making the very generous assumption here he's planning on buying guns through legitimate authorized sellers within Russia/China. So at least he's getting quality products. If he's planning on buying guns off the back of a wagon in Vietnam or something.....
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gradenko_2000 posted:
Just to provide a little more context for people (I'm not sure if it was contained in any of your links there, sorry if it was), one of the things Duterte said about his "knowledge" of De Lima and her allegedly sordid past is that a "friendly foreign power" tapped her phone and gave him recordings. Police Chief Dela Rosa said the Philippine National Police didn't have the capability of tapping a mobile phone like that, but Senator Lacson-- a former PNP chief himself-- said that Dela Rosa was probably wrong. In any event-- whether it came from PNP capabilities or from China or "some other" power-- if the writ forced that revelation it would be a big deal (if it came from another country I'm almost positive they would refuse to reveal it for national security reasons, but it would be interesting to see if Duterte was telling the truth about that).
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# ? Nov 8, 2016 06:22 |
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ihatepants posted:Was it Heneral Luna? Yeah that's the one. Pretty okay movie
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# ? Nov 8, 2016 06:32 |
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The Supreme Court has voted 9 to 5 to allow for the burial of former dictator Ferdinand Marcos Sr., at the Cemetery for National Heroesquote:Associate Justices Arturo Brion, Presbitero Velasco Jr, Diosdado Peralta, Lucas Bersamin, Mariano del Castillo, Jose Perez, Teresita de Castro, Jose Mendoza, and Estela Perlas-Bernabe voted in favor of giving Marcos a hero's burial. In favor: Arturo Brion - appointed by Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo Presbitero Velasco Jr - appointed by Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo Diosdado Peralta - appointed by Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo Lucas Bersamin - appointed by Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo Mariano del Castillo - appointed by Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo Jose Perez - appointed by Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo Teresita de Castro - appointed by Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo Jose Mendoza - appointed by Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo Estela Perlas-Bernabe - appointed by Benigno Aquino Dissented: Maria Lourdes Sereno - appointed by Benigno Aquino Marvic Leonen - appointed by Benigno Aquino Frances Jardeleza - appointed by Benigno Aquino Alfredo Benjamin Caguioa - appointed by Benigno Aquino Antonio Carpio - appointed by Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo
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# ? Nov 8, 2016 06:41 |
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Rookersh posted:
Just another chance for more graft. He can get another loan from china for 4 times the USA price to buy the guns from China.
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# ? Nov 8, 2016 07:43 |
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I could hook you up with some quality surplus AKs from Bulgaria at a pretty good rate. PM me.
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# ? Nov 8, 2016 09:24 |
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Things the Philippines has done to disgraced leaders:
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# ? Nov 8, 2016 09:49 |
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poo poo's going to go down this month, I can feel it.
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# ? Nov 8, 2016 09:54 |
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As much as I dislike Duterte, I would be against any unilateral American intervention that removes him from power.
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# ? Nov 8, 2016 11:54 |
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Argue posted:Things the Philippines has done to disgraced leaders: Arroyo was elected to Congress, not the Senate. Still, that's pretty embarrassing.
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# ? Nov 8, 2016 11:56 |
Rated PG-34 posted:As much as I dislike Duterte, I would be against any unilateral American intervention that removes him from power. The same. Unless it were done in the style of a certain genre of 80's comedy. Sure, Duterte can dish the insults. But can he pop-and-lock or spit the rhymes?
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Rated PG-34 posted:As much as I dislike Duterte, I would be against any unilateral American intervention that removes him from power. I would qualify my agreement as there being a red line where it would become acceptable, but we're not yet anywhere near that line, and I pray to God that we won't ever come close.
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Does your red line involve the US challenging him to a Japanese-style game show? I could back that too.
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# ? Nov 8, 2016 12:16 |
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Rated PG-34 posted:As much as I dislike Duterte, I would be against any unilateral American intervention that removes him from power. I don't think the US is planning anything like that.
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# ? Nov 8, 2016 13:09 |
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Yeah, it's unlikely, but multiple people in this thread seem to be unhealthily in favor of some sort of assassination/war on Duterte.anakha posted:Arroyo was elected to Congress, not the Senate. Still, that's pretty embarrassing. My bad; I knew she was a congressman but I thought Senate was the catchall term for the whole legislative branch.
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# ? Nov 8, 2016 13:16 |
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It looks like our fears that Robredo might somehow be deposed are baseless. If they got rid of her, Duterte wouldn't have any hot legs to oglequote:MANILA — In an act that may spark condemnation from women’s groups, President Duterte let loose his philandering self as he openly flirted with Vice President Leni Robredo in front of hundreds of survivors of Supertyphoon “Yolanda” in Tacloban City on Tuesday.
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# ? Nov 8, 2016 14:11 |
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He really is a Filipino Trump, what the gently caress.
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# ? Nov 8, 2016 15:09 |
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Rookersh posted:The problem of switching guns is three fold, fyi. It's amusing that you think buying rifles works like it does in a video game or something. Huge numbers of M16 pattern rifles are made in China, there are Filipino companies that make knock off versions of Chinese M16s. Rifles aren't jet engines, the technology content of a M16 rifle is about the same as that of a $5 non-stick frying pan.
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Argue posted:Things the Philippines has done to disgraced leaders: In six years, you can add "Elected as president the son of dictator who murdered thousands." Or does he not count because he isn't technically disgraced (yet).
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# ? Nov 8, 2016 15:46 |
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Welp. Condolences, Americans, and welcome to the club. I dunno, still a better option than Duterte probably.
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# ? Nov 9, 2016 07:15 |
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Humanity really getting that hat trick for this year in, huh?
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# ? Nov 9, 2016 07:18 |
It looks like America's Deturte will win the election.
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# ? Nov 9, 2016 07:30 |
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gently caress, gently caress, gently caress, putanginang punyetang mga tanga! Yeah, me and my (also Filipina) wife just got married in the US and we're pretty scared. Hopefully this won't embolden all those racists?
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# ? Nov 9, 2016 07:34 |
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Hopefully now that Trump's been pushed to production we can decommission the beta Trump that we've been running for the last six months
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# ? Nov 9, 2016 07:37 |
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When Marcos was in power, Reagan was President.
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# ? Nov 9, 2016 09:02 |
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Thatcher's back in the UK too.
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# ? Nov 9, 2016 12:44 |
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RandomPauI posted:It looks like America's Deturte will win the election. Not gonna lie, looking forward to the first meeting between the two. Apologies in advance to the Philippines if it leads to us bombing you.
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# ? Nov 9, 2016 13:00 |
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Not gonna lie, looking forward to the first meeting between the two. try and catch quezon city in the blast radius if you can, so i can move on to the next world
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# ? Nov 9, 2016 13:15 |
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toasterwarrior posted:try and catch quezon city in the blast radius if you can, so i can move on to the next world Not emptyquoting. gently caress this gay earth.
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# ? Nov 9, 2016 13:37 |
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I'm Junkrat irl so I can use the blast to propel myself to Switzerland or something
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# ? Nov 9, 2016 13:44 |
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My parents just told me that they're ok with me not going through with the green card application with an orange rapist presidency. At least that's $800 we don't have to spend.
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# ? Nov 9, 2016 14:25 |
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http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/588211/news/nation/duterte-on-trump-medyo-pare-pareho-kamiquote:President Rodrigo Duterte on Wednesday addressed Donald Trump's victory in the United States presidential elections publicly for the first time in a speech before the Filipino community in Malaysia. So folks, what are your new plans for getting out of here? I'm afraid America is still my best bet at the moment, but at least if this pushes through it'll be in the fairly blue bubble of California.
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# ? Nov 9, 2016 14:42 |
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I kept telling my fiancee we were going to try to move to America next year once things had settled down after the wedding. I was driving her to work this afternoon as the states were being called and we started crying together after it started sinking in. I don't know anymore.
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# ? Nov 9, 2016 14:48 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:I kept telling my fiancee we were going to try to move to America next year once things had settled down after the wedding. Try Canada
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# ? Nov 9, 2016 16:28 |
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Xelkelvos posted:Try Canada We're terrified Trump will bomb our economy with his protectionist policies. (So is Mexico; the peso went down 13% last night, though I believe it's back 'up' to only a 9% decrease.) Also, the Immigration Canada website crashed repeatedly last night from too much traffic so it might take a while.
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# ? Nov 9, 2016 18:05 |
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Last thought for the night: I didn't experience or see nearly as much recrimination over Roxas's, or even Poe's loss to Duterte, as I see now over "the failure of the Democrats"
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# ? Nov 9, 2016 18:49 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:Last thought for the night: I didn't experience or see nearly as much recrimination over Roxas's, or even Poe's loss to Duterte, as I see now over "the failure of the Democrats" I suppose it's because Trump was predicted to be a sure failure, while Duterte had a clear lead in the polls leading up to the main event.
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# ? Nov 9, 2016 19:30 |
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Xelkelvos posted:Try Canada If you've got some qualifications, Australia is currently accepting skilled migrants in the following job areas: https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Work/Work/Skills-assessment-and-assessing-authorities/skilled-occupations-lists/SOL That said, I know our government's immigration policies are a loving quagmire. On the plus side, there's a decent-sized Filipino community here!
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 13:31 |
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Right. This last week has been incredibly stressful. Did I tell you our Supreme Court gave the green light to have Ferdinand Marcos buried in the National Heroes's Cemetery the day before the US elections? Besides Trump, the big thing is still that Marcos decision, which has drawn protests and will probably draw an appeal (I'm not sure of the remaining legal avenues) Other important news: The Senate opened an investigation into the death of Mayor and suspected drug lord Rolando Espinosa. They unanimously concluded that the killing had to be premeditated, given the circumstances of the death and the inconsistencies in the story relayed by the police. This article [NWS/NMS pictures of a cadaver] covers how the crime scene photos are inconsistent and imply that Espinosa's body was moved and a gun planted to maintain the illusion of a shoot-out. This article [NWS/NMS pictures of a cadaver] covers how Scene of the Crime Operatives (think Filipino CSI) were called in even before the police supposedly entered Espinosa's cell. For his part, President Duterte commented that he does not believe that Espinosa's case is an extra-judicial killing, and that he believes the police's version of events (that Espinosa had a gun, and was killed in a shoot-out) quote:“I believe in the version of the police. If they have a version that proves otherwise, then a case should be filed against the police,” said Duterte, reiterating his vow early during the campaign to protect the police implementing his war against illegal drugs. The Ombudsman also launched an investigation into the all-expenses paid trip provided by Senator Manny Pacquiao to Police Chief Ronald de la Rosa so that de la Rosa could watch the Pacquiao-Vargas match in Las Vegas.
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 10:11 |
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Someone posted a thing re: Duterte's decision to not re--open the Bataan Nuclear Plant a few pages ago. Well, I got some news for you: http://business.inquirer.net/218869/energy-chief-gets-dutertes-green-light-for-1-b-nuke-plant-rehab
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